To set the record straight about the 1992 primary season & Clinton not "locking up" it up unti June

[housewolf]

I was there. I worked on Jerry Brown's campaign in Calif in 1992. I remember it well.

It was apparant in March/April that Bill Clinton was probably going to be the nominee. That's like now, when it's apparant that Barack Obama is going to be the nominee. However, Bill Clinton didn't actually win the majority of delegates until the Calif primary the first week in June of 1992. In other words, he hadn't "locked it up" or "officially won the nomination" until after the Calif primary in spite of some saying that he had "essentially" won it.

Jerry Brown stayed in the race until the convention. There was a chance, albeit it a slim one, that a big win in Calif (Brown's home state) by Jerry Brown could have denied Bill Clinton the nomination. It didn't happen but it _could_ have.

The nomination in 1992 wasn't "won" or "locked up" until after the Calif primary.

[sandnsea]

1. There are no California delegates to get this time

Which is why it is completely different. Quit misrepresenting the facts.

[suston96]

2. You completely missed the point. No one is talking about delegates.

It's about the June time frame.

[sandnsea]

4. The California delegates were still available then

Those primaries still mattered.

There is NOTHING that is going to happen in June to change anything.

NOTHING.

June is irrelevant. It doesn't matter.

[havocmom]

6. Well, maybe Montana will pull it out for Hillary...

:rofl: Trust me, ain't gonna happen here either.

MT, SD, PR in June = HRC has no big contests to rest her hope on. So, she must have been saying she was in it just in case she could win by default if the real winner was unavailable

It was clearly her worst and most candid moment. One hopes someone loves this woman enough to get her off the stage and into therapy so she can deal with her bitter disappointment without being destructive.

[sandnsea]

7. I know

I lived there. There has to be a way to tell MT & SD that their votes are important, while recognizing the reality of the outcome. PR, I don't know, I'd be surprised if it went to Hillary, but it's not going to matter anyway.

[havocmom]

9. Lots of excitement for Obama the other day

People will vote. Few will vote for Hillary, unless they are Republicans who changed their party affiliation for the fun of trying to get HRC on the ballot for the GE so they can vote against her.

The GOP already caucused for presidential but there are other things on the ballot. Most here take elections pretty seriously.

At this point, I wouldn't spit on Hillary if her hair were on fire.

[havocmom]

5. She was talking about CALIFORNIA as a reason for staying in

but CALIFORNIA is a done deal. She was making excuses and worse. She is not stable enough for the job.

[suston96]

8. No, she was talking about how the campaign ended in 1968 California for RFK and .....

...how, also in June, 1992 her husband won the nomination by winning California.

Of course California in 2008 is long past. But there is still a primary in June. Puerto Rico is a big one! That is what she is talking about.

Not dropping out in May while there is still a primary to win in June.

[sandnsea]

10. That's why June isn't relevant

The CA primary was in June then, there were a lot of delegates available. The argument could be made that Jerry Brown, since he was from CA, could pull an upset. In 1968, it was only the 13th primary. There were many more to go.

NOW, it's over. Nothing is going to happen in June to refer to. Nothing.

[havocmom]

11. The primaries in June are MT, SD, PR. Damned few delegates & no hope for Hillary.

Not enough to help Hillary even if she could take all three elections, which she can't

She harped on Calif and it not being over for Bill until that state's primary, but that was then and this is now. Calif is a done deal. There are not more big states. She is pissing in the wind and hoping to win by default now and that is not pretty.

Fuck her campaign. She is not mentally stable at this point.

[havocmom]

3. Exactly! California is a done deal. Good thing for Hillary, or she would lose it too.

Lots of buyers' remorse out there as more people see more of Hillary. The more they see of her, the less they support her.

[Raine]

12. We had our primary in Feb

so there is no reason for her to be referencing it and there is no primary left that will give her the nomination.