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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:52 PM
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Hasn't Obama himself evoked the names of MLK, FRK, and JFK
and said they are his role models. He paints himself as like all these men. Even Caroline Kenndy compared Obama to JFK. So who reminds voters the most about the potential dangers he faces. He has used this to his advantage and with the mischaractization of Hillary's remarks, he's doing it again.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 PM
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1. Umm, stop trying to talk sense to insanity.
It totally doesn't work.
They hear what they want to hear.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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5. Indeed. OP is totally incapable of talking sense.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 PM
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2. WTF?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 PM
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3. Difference: Obama wasn't referencing their assassinations, nor was he using the threat of violence
as a political tool.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:56 PM
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13. Which one of the candidates has the most Secret service and got it the earliest?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 PM
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4. Total Fail. (Point of FACT - Obama's said nothing. WE and THE MEDIA have. So can it.)
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Higher Standard Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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6. Using it to his advantage?
Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:56 PM by Higher Standard
Please link to the footage or statement where Obama used Hillary's remarks to his advantage.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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7. It's his way..it's very toddlerish!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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8. Oh good lord. That's the lamest post ever. Goodbye. nt
Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:55 PM by JenniferZ
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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9. um, invoking one's heroes and inspriations is not the same as suggesting one's career may get a bump
from an assassination.

What the fuck? Did you really think that lame ass analogy would float?
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:00 PM
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17. well only if people understand english..."get a bump"..where the h did you get that?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:09 PM
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18. Obsessed candidate trying to justify staying in race in case of RFK like event
= she thinks she should stay in so she can be the winner by default in the event of some racist she has been playing to for weeks were to do murder.

She is staying in in case something happens to Obama? She looks at that possibility as a career bump.

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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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10. crazy logic
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:55 PM
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11. Don't be silly he wasn't referring to assassination when he invokes their names.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:55 PM by book_worm
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:56 PM
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12. You're being ridiculous
and you know it. x(
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:57 PM
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14. they are trying to create FAKE outrage to play with MI AND FL!

"So if Hillary makes reference to the bombing of Hiroshima in August of 1945 does that mean she wants to nuke the convention?" ??? ??? ???????? ??? ??? my god!
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:57 PM
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15. You people are fucking nuts.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:00 PM
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16. BIG Difference: Obama didn't invoke "assassination" meme against Hillary ~nt~
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:10 PM
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19. Hillary used RFK and assignation in defense of her candidacy and you defend that?
Edited on Fri May-23-08 07:11 PM by Wolsh
Get the fuck off this website.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:16 PM
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20. You're a sick fuck
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:32 PM
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21. Senseless drivel.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:33 PM
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22. he invoked their lives, not their deaths.
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sam kane Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:34 PM
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23. hope you got a lot of cash for that soul. n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:36 PM
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24. First off, Obama never mischaracterized Hillary's remarks....I don't think he's said anything.
Secondly, when he has invoked MLK, RFK or JFK, he hasn't talked about someone being "offed", to my knowledge.

:eyes:

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:38 PM
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25. Oh brother.
:crazy:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:39 PM
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26. Obama, again, gets a pass since the Kennedys adore him.(eom)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:40 PM
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27. Do you have any conception of how stupid your post is?
:eyes:

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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:42 PM
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29. WTF? what did Obama do to "get a pass"?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:52 PM
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32. Obama gets a pass by "not being Hillary".
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:56 PM
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35. and today that is a good thing
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:40 PM
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28. He references their lives.
She references their deaths. You can't see the difference?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:44 PM
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30. that would be invoked, not evoked, and no Obama has never
anything as stupid and ugly as hilly said today. Furthermore you're just slinging bullshit. He has never painted himself as Kennedyesque. And he hasn't said jackshit about hill making a total fool of herself today.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:47 PM
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31. Well, I don't ever recall the word "assassination" coming into play here
Invoking their memory and hinting at a 'what if' scenario involving a tragic incident are vastly different things.

Do you not see this?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:53 PM
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33. Dear Lord! This is just sad and pathetic.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:55 PM
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34. what are you talking about?
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:56 PM
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36. One of the most brainless disgusting threads in DU that I have ever came across
:thumbsdown:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:58 PM
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37. Not to mention Lincoln.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:59 PM
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38. Reality check time...
she said "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California." Stubborn refusal to see reality is a sign that you need a deprogrammer...
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:00 PM
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39. Yep, I been saying this and it still goes on....
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:01 PM
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Actually, he has done nothing but stand clear
A basic principle, sort of a "campaigning 101" item, is to never get in the way of an opponent who is doing him/herself in. Barack has stood clear. The media on the other hand, is rather going to town. But then that is what the media does, just like the weeks of Reverend Wright, and the Dean "scream".

I have been doing media interviews for years now as part of my job. It is rare that they ever treat you fairly, and it is always absolutely critical to never give them an opening like this. This is vastly and nearly unimaginably more true for a Presidential candidate.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:01 PM
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40. Another BRILLIANT Hillary defense.
Obama once talked about Reagan. Therefore he advocates himself getting Alzheimers.

How incredibly logical.
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:02 PM
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41. He did not invoke assasination
that is a huge difference. Or didn't you notice that reference?

She is out of bounds.

Tex Shelters
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:02 PM
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42. Not as people whose deaths are the path to his nomination you jackass.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:03 PM
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43. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
Claiming JFK and RFK as role models is not even in the same fucking UNIVERSE as Hillary's incredibly ill-thought out mouth diarrhea today. That was inexcusable for someone in her position--and yes, Clinton supporters, I would be saying this even if she was a white man, a black man, a black woman, or any other fucking color or gender.\

This was stupid, insensitive, and dangerous--and Clinton supporters, you KNOW this.
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