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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:43 PM
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Okay, Ray McGovern is officially concerned about *
and his cabal delaying or canceling he election. Now, I am officially worried.


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Meaning? Meaning that if the president’s numbers look no better in October than they do now, there will be particularly strong personal incentive on the part of the president, Rumsfeld, and Vice President Cheney to pull out all the stops in order to make four more years a sure thing. What seems increasingly clear is that putting off the election is under active consideration—a course more likely to be chosen to the extent it achieves status as just another option.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04327.html
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:50 PM
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1. It would be yet another act of treason.
The "yet another" part of that is what worries me.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:53 PM
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2. The thing is ..they're going to lose, so it will be interesting
to see how all these "stops" being pulled..Don't Work!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:54 PM
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3. I still don't understand all of the talk about cancelling the vote
Even if that happened, doesn't the (s)elected official's term end four years after inauguration? What/who would give them an automatic four more years?

I don't doubt they're going to do something. What that is, I haven't a clue but I'm leaning more toward another ball dropping blame the intelligence oopsie it was "their" fault terrorist attack.

But this election cancelling theme just doesn't make sense for me. :shrug:
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:24 PM
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5. Yes, bush's term would end in January,
but if there was no election, Cheney would be President until an election was held.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 11:45 PM
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6. Can you give me a link for that?
I tried googling and couldn't come up with the answer. Thanks! :)
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:56 PM
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4. Divide and conquer
Frightening.

From the article,

"Safety first! I don’t want to see another 9/11. Whatever it takes!" I was struck a few hours later as I tuned into President Bush speaking at a campaign rally in Michigan: "I will never relent in defending America. Whatever it takes."

How prevalent this sentiment has become was brought home to me as Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) quizzed 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey (a former Democrat Senator from Nebraska) at a hearing last week on the commission’s sweeping recommendation to centralize foreign and domestic intelligence under a new National Intelligence Director in the White House. Kerrey grew quite angry as Kucinich kept insisting on an answer to his question: "How do you protect civil liberties amid such a concentration of information and power?"

Kerrey protested that the terrorists give no priority to civil liberties. He went on to say that individual liberties must, in effect, be put on the back burner, while priority is given to combating terrorism. Whatever it takes.

Does this not speak volumes? Would Kerrey suggest that Americans act like the "good Germans" of the 1930s, and acquiesce in draconian steps like postponement or cancellation of the November election?

These are no small matters. It is high time to think them through.




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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 11:47 PM
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7. Here's anothe take on it...interesting scenario
:tinfoilhat: bookmarking :tinfoilhat:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/071504Madsen/071504madsen.html

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Here's the scenario we must be all be prepared for:

If the pre-election internal tracking polls and public opinion polls show the Kerry-Edwards ticket leading in key battleground states, the Bush team will begin to implement their plan to announce an imminent terrorist alert for the West Coast for November 2, sometime during the mid afternoon Pacific Standard Time. At 2:00 PST, the polls in Kentucky and Indiana will be one hour from closing (5:00 PM EST–the polls close in Indiana and Kentucky at 6:00 PM EST). Exit polls in both states will be known to the Bush people by that time and if Kentucky (not likely Indiana) looks too close to call or leaning to Kerry-Edwards, the California plan will be implemented. A Bush problem in Kentucky at 6:00 PM EST would mean that problems could be expected in neighboring states and that plans to declare a state of emergency in California would begin in earnest at 3:00 PM PST.

<snip>more
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:09 AM
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8. I'll be awfully happy if we win Kentucky
conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

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