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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:34 PM
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Rasmussen is a joke
And a shill for BushCo. They have his approval rating at 52 percent -- five points higher than Fox and 8 points higher than Zogby. They also have BushCo. leading Kerry 48-47 in today's tracking poll.

Looks like I'll be taking them off my bookmark list.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:36 PM
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1. The desperate spin is FULL ON.....
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:56 PM
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16. What changed to raise Bush from 45 to 48?


Rasmussen Reports


Date Bush Kerry
Today 48 47
Aug 8 48 47
Aug 7 47 47
Aug 6 46 48
Aug 5 45 48
Aug 4 46 46
Aug 3 45 48
Aug 2 46 47
Aug 1 45 49
July 31 46 47
July 30 45 48
July 29 45 48
July 28 45 48
July 27 46 47
July 26 46 46
July 25 46 47
July 24 45 47
BUSH vs. KERRY: Among likely voters; with leaners, where available. (See registered voters.)
Survey BUSH KERRY Margin Includes
Running-
End Date % % Bush Kerry mates?

Time 8/5 44 51 7 Y
Democracy Corps (D) 8/5 45 52 7 N
FOX/Opinion Dynamics 8/4 43 48 5 N
ABC/Washington Post 8/1 48 49 1 N
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 8/1 51 47 4 Y

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BUSH vs. KERRY: Among registered voters; with leaners, where available. (See likely voters.)
Survey BUSH KERRY Margin Includes
Running-
End Date % % Bush Kerry mates?

Time 8/5 43 51 8 Y
IBD/CSM/TIPP 8/5 43 49 6 N
FOX/Opinion Dynamics 8/4 43 46 3 N
ABC/Washington Post 8/1 45 52 7 N
American Research Group 8/1 46 49 3 N
CBS 8/1 43 49 6 Y
CBS 8/1 44 51 7 N
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 8/1 48 48 Y

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:57 PM
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17. The Outstanding Jobs Report
sic
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:37 PM
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2. Do they explain where they get their participants? n/t
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:38 PM
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4. Supposedly it's done from a national sample
But from the looks of their results, I'd say their sample comes primarily from Texas.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:37 PM
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3. I find it interesting that people like to site him when he shows
Kerry doing well and disregard him when he indicates a close race. I'm not saying you do that. I check him out becuz of his daily tracking poll and I don't think it is inconceivable that on one day Bush could be a point ahead and the next Kerry could be up--that is the way tracking polls go. He was wildly off the mark in 2000--he says he has made improvements, but we will see.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:41 PM
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6. I tend to gravitate toward so called "unfriendly" pollsters
Edited on Mon Aug-09-04 12:44 PM by RummyTheDummy
Because I know if they're showing Kerry ahead, I know he's really ahead. My beef with Rasmussen isn't really their tracking poll, it's the approval rating which is way off. They had his approval at 53 percent Friday.

And their poll has become predictable. Kerry will move ahead by three and then the next day he's up by 2, the next one, the next it's tied, the next he's behind, then the cycle begins all over again. Kerry up by three, up by two, up by one, tied, behind by one, behind by two, up by three, up by two, up by one and on and on. You can set your watch to it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:43 PM
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9. At the end after the rubes are hooked
he'll show * with a 9% lead on election day....


ooops..... that was 2000....



ROTFLMFAO
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:41 PM
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7. Rasmussen Sucks.....
Why isn't his poll included at www.pollingreport.com?


I'll tell you why...


The man's a fucking charlatan....
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:40 PM
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5. Simple question - who pays him?
The guy has to get his funding somewhere, and daily polling ain't cheap.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:42 PM
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8. He must have sponsors
B/c when I get on his page, there's usually an ad on it from my state's GOP. That should speak volumes.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:44 PM
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10. He's A Fox Puppet....
he had to close down his portraitofamerica poll because it was so discredited in 00....


I could conduct a better poll calling people from my kitchen....
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:46 PM
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11. Fox News always cites his polls
:)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:47 PM
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13. Fox Loves Rasmussen And Battleground...
Battleground is almost as bad.. They had Chimpy up 50-45% on Election Day 00...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:46 PM
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12. It's Cheaper If You Don't Have To Pay Callers....
He has a machine asking the questions...


Who the fuck is going to share their political opinions with a robot?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:50 PM
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14. even when he has Kerry ahead i don't take his polls seriously
because he uses questionable and not very accurate polling methods. he might get lucky and it might be close to actual results at times. but because of the methods it can't be trusted.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 12:52 PM
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15. The Only Test Of A Poll Is Election Day
and Rasmussen had Bush leading Gore 49% to 40% on said day....


He sucks....



I could conduct a better poll from the beach using my cellphone....
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Tarheelhombre Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:48 PM
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18. Rasmussen was the most errroneous poll of all in 2000
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:49 PM
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19. Rasmussen is a GOP pollster. Taken in that context, it can be interesting.
n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:59 PM
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20. Rasmussen
How do we know his organization is even making the calls....


His operation is totally automated....


He could be making up the numbers...
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:24 PM
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21. I tend to look at his polls
with the same scrutiny as I look at those Zogby Interactive polls.

The polls in battleground states are all over the place. In some cases they have FAVORED Kerry like in MN and OR. They were also showing Kerry with big leads in NJ, while other firms were showing it to be much closer.

The tracking polls have little movement, though they did show Kerry with a slight bounce during the convention.

Either way, he may be more accurate than he used to be, but that's not saying much.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:47 PM
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22. Kick
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