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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:56 PM
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Hillary cites Karl Rove's analysis that she would be the stronger candidate in the GE
Edited on Mon May-19-08 05:58 PM by SurfingAtWork
as one reason for her to say in.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/19/clinton-cites-karl-rove-as-reason-to-stay-in/

I guess Karl is the new Awesome and Fair Pundit Du'Jour in Clintonland.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:57 PM
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1. like his tactics or not, he KNOWS electoral politics.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:57 PM
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4. He knows how to lie cheat and steal.
Fuck rove and everything he thinks.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:21 PM
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32. Thank you.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:58 PM
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5. That's why the Republicans maintained their majorities in the house and senate right?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:58 PM
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6. Yeah, and his analysis os completely honest, becuase otherwise he wouldn't have a job with Fox News.
This is like basing your view of foreign policy on Bush's speeches.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:00 PM
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12. Like it or not, Bush knows Foreign Policy
:rofl:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:19 PM
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28. Texas Hill Country = Crawford Ranch
It would sure explain a lot...though I suppose that as long as W is posting on DU instead of messing with the government, we're keeping him out of trouble.
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YWC08 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:59 PM
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7. You really should just shut your mouth now; you are making a fool of yourself.
Karl FREAKING Rove?!
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:28 PM
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42. Can't wait to see how the SDs will react to this latest Hillary bullshit. n/t
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:59 PM
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8. No, he does not.
Example "There's the math, and there's MY math"

Regarding his prediction of republican win in 2006.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:59 PM
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9. Yeah, he knows 'the math,' too.
Didn't save Congress in '06, did it?

- as
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:00 PM
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11. No he doesn't
Karl Rove knows how to cheat and lie and game the system. The only things he's expert at are distraction and destruction.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:02 PM
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15. What in the Hell do you Base that ON?
He didnt even know his own Party was going down in O6. Geeze if a genius has to count on the brother of a Candidate delivering 537 Votes then he aint no genius in my book. Can you really think he knows Electoral Politics? He doesnt know any more than I do when I said Kerry will win NH and lose IOWA, and New Mexico. I guess I really KNOw electoral Politics TOO!!!!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:02 PM
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16. He's brought the Repubs lower than they've ever been in my life.
They've never been so weak and demoralized since I've been into politics. How does that translate into knowing what's he doing?

You need to step back and ask yourself why you're now in a position where you're actually defending Rove on DU.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:18 PM
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27. hilary didn't learn from the bush lessons so she
thought rove could bring her higher than bush.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:07 PM
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20. No question...my concern is that he knows it well enough to send
out just the right statement to help his party in the GE. He knows electoral politics...and we know his tactics. I can't believe HRC is willing to jump right in and help him spread his talking points.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:15 PM
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24. YOU PEOPLE HAVE GONE OFF THE DEEP END (nm)
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:23 PM
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36. He is a consumate liar. He's spinning for Hillary, and that shows what a GOPer she is. n/t
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:40 PM
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48. Wasn't he the one that was working on a permanent Republican majority?
How'd that one work out for him?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:23 PM
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52. But Karl said the GOP would hold the House & Senate in 2006! OMG you say it didn't happen!
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:48 PM
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55. Tell that to the three GOP candidates who've lost the last three bellwether...
...fill-in races in the last year, and while you're at it, also remind KKKarl about his infamous wizardry with “The Math”.

For those who don't remember “The Math”, on the eve of the table-upsetting '06 congressional elections, Rove screamed at an NPR reporter who dared doubt his pronouncement of the GOP doing well in the face of a wide swath of polling showing an electoral ass-kicking on the horizon.

He screamed about his having “THE Math”—allegedly unimpeachable, positive internal polling that showed wingnuts doing well.

Of course, he was dead, wattle-necked wrong.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Rove_dukes_it_out_with_NPR_1025.html

He's NOT the genius many on the right, and sadly, too many who purport to be on the left claim him to be.

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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:08 PM
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56. Your Comment is the dumbest comment I've EVER read on here.
He knows shit if he did, he could have maintained the "perpetual Republican Majority" What a laugh. He got lucky the first time and Kerry ran a crappy campaign and STILL almost won. damn Rove doesnt know shit.
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YWC08 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:57 PM
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2. Goalposts... check
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:00 PM
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10. Obama needs to invest in some cement casings for those goal posts...
He really needs to stop them from moving all the time.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:57 PM
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3. Sure, let's let Rove choose our nominee
Peachy
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:01 PM
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13. The moment our party starts taking advice from KKKarl Rove, I'll resign from the party.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:22 PM
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No Sweat..hilary is dlc.. just a dino.
Our Democratic Party is Howard Dean, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd, Al Gore, Barack Obama, Clair McCaskill, Jan Schakowsky, Bill Richardson, John Edwards, ad infinitum/AKA/Real Dems.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:02 PM
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14. If this doesn't make the HRC supporters come to their senses
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING will. Praising John McStain, now citing KKKarl Rove? WTF is the matter with this woman? Notice how she never sings the praises of any Dems except Joe LIEberman (who isn't a freakin' Democrat, anyway).
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:02 PM
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17. Clearly, Hillary has never seen The Princess Bride!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:03 PM
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18. George Bush agreed too
President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush gushed about Hillary Rodham Clinton's experience yesterday - saying she could handle the immense challenges of the presidency better than any other Democrat.

The Republican president, in an interview with ABC News, said, "There is no question that Sen. Clinton understands pressure better than any of the candidates, you know, in the race."

Bush called Clinton a "very formidable candidate" who he said understands the "klieg lights" that go with presidential politics.

But, he said, "I do believe our candidate will beat her, if she happens to be the nominee."

Then, he turned around and slammed Clinton's rival, Barack Obama, for promoting the "odd foreign policy" of agreeing to meet with leaders of countries like Iran without preconditions.

http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/george-bush-endorseshillary-clinton/
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:23 PM
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35. Kiss of Death...with bushit endorsements like those..
who needs mark penn?
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:06 PM
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19. Welp that confirms it, There are no more sharks left for Hillary Clinton to Jump-nt
Edited on Mon May-19-08 06:07 PM by 4themind
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:10 PM
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21. hahahahahaha!!!!!
Karl Rove wants her to be the nominee and SHE AGREES!!!!!

Can we put her humanely to sleep now????

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese?
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:13 PM
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22. She is hitting bottom
When she has to use karl Rove as a "source" to show she it the better "democrat" in the race! Does she really think this will help her? :crazy:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:24 PM
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37. I think she hit bottom when she declared that she or McCain would be a better president than Obama -
and now she is digging herself under, deeper, and deeper... much like her campaign debt. I would throw away the resume of anyone recommended by Rove and Bush, but that's just me.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:14 PM
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23. Obama pointed out "rove like politics" in his
speech on why we shouldn't go to WAR On Iraq and the little desperate hilary uses rove's words to claim she would be the stronger candidate in the GE.

The primaries told you NO hilary now go start paying back your creditors, especially the small businesses that are depending on that money in this economy that you helped create by voting for the IWR and enabling bushit all these years.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:22 PM
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33. Ah, I see it all now...
Obama (on TV): '...Rove like policies...'

Mark Penn: 'That's IT! Shit, why didn't I think of this before? It worked twice for Bush! Someone, get Karl Rove on the phone NOW!'
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:16 PM
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25. He also predicted the Rethugs would hold Senate and House in '06
I think his political "genius" is getting a bit stale at this
point....
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:17 PM
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26. Smokescreen From KKKarl.....
the Repugs know that they can't beat Obama - so KKKarl is appealing to Hilliary's lust to become president and saying that she is the more formidable candidate - knowing full well that Hilliary will continue this primary battle to the detriment of the Dem party. To the point of taking it to the convention.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:26 PM
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38. Of course that's it..and this is the ultimate hilary desperate
betrayal. hilary has betrayed herself.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:29 PM
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44. HRC hasn't betrayed herself. She was never great to begin with.
zidzi, the grifters out of Arkansas were never good for America or else NAFTA wouldn't have been passed.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:19 PM
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29. LOL. We're suppose to believe anything Karl says while we're in the Democratic Primary
He has an agenda.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:19 PM
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30. I wonder if Fox will still be Hillary's & groupies favorite channel after the primaries are over?
Edited on Mon May-19-08 06:21 PM by Bensthename
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:20 PM
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31. How many times has she said "Rove tactics" in this race? What a hypocrite!
Geez.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:27 PM
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40. She has no integrity or honor. Can't wait to see how the SDs react to THIS latest tactic. n/t
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:23 PM
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34. Why aren't her supporters recoiling in horror from her now? n/t
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:27 PM
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39. I cannot figure out why anyone would support this lying and cheating caricature of a candidate.
Edited on Mon May-19-08 06:48 PM by TBF
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:31 PM
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46. That's a dumb thing to say.
And I'm an Obama supporter.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:49 PM
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50. I guess I'm tired today, but you're right. I need to take a break from this place for awhile.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:27 PM
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41. Hillary is insane for power
Here's a link to the story where she cites Rove as her reason for staying in and HURTING the real nominee and US!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/19/clinton-cites-karl-rove-as-reason-to-stay-in/
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:30 PM
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45. Well, the SDs will recoil in horror, as will Dem Party leadership....
She may even make the DLC flinch.

Can't wait to see the fallout from this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:28 PM
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43. They're too busy
wallowing in the Whine River.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:36 PM
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47. that's just awful
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:46 PM
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49. Video of Clinton's Karl Rove remark
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:19 PM
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51. I Bet Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame are having a MAJOR WTF MOMENT.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:32 PM
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53. She has every right as a Candidate still in their slogging to use whatever
she needs to use against her opponent. She's a Democrat running for President. If I listened to the jibbering/twattering on GDPolitics...I'd think she was a Repug running with John McCain. :eyes:
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:14 PM
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57. OMG!
Classic, a DEM running for PRESIDENT? That says KArl Roves firm thinks she would be stronger. She has Jumped the SHARK.
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:34 PM
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54. maybe hillary want to be mccains VP
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:51 PM
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58. yikes
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