How bad will MSM and Obama supporters turn on Clinton after June 3 if she tries to stay in this?

[Bensthename]

Hillary continues to lie and say she has the popular vote and say the states she has won are more important then the ones Obama has won. We were all assuming this kind of bs from her would stop these last few weeks but she hasn't.

With the tone she is taking it is clear she plans on whining and making false claims past the last primary June 3rd..

Playing nice to Hillary and patting her on the back should end June 3rd.. After that she is officially doing nothing but helping McCain and hurting Obama. After June 3rd Obama needs to have 100% focus on McCain. He can not have her getting her base all riled up talking about fake talking points.
He doesnt need to spend one more dollar appeasing her and trying not to hurt her or her followers fealings..

MSM and all dems need to turn our attention to McCain..

[Henny Penny]

1. Hillary needs to stay the course irrespective of what the obamabots want.

[Bensthename]

2. Stay the course of lying and deception? Nah, she can do better..

[Colobo]

7. For what? She lost.

[AZ Criminal JD]

23. There are over 17 millions voters who don't agree with you.

So far.

[renie408]

25. Sadly, that would be 618,000 less than the 17 million and something

that have voted for Obama. The only way Clinton can claim to have won the popular vote over Obama is if she includes Michigan and Florida, states in which Obama didn't run.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hVDbYiVsSrdihHdr33yI21z85ThQD90MB0A80

[Henny Penny]

37. count all the votes....its quite simple.

If Obama didn't run in Michigan and Florida its hardly Hillary's fault...

and its certainly no reason not to count her votes.

[renie408]

18. You know, I have never thought that 'staying the course' for its own sake

was a valid argument for ANYTHING. Not wars in Iraq or lost campaigns that hurt the Democratic Party.

[anigbrowl]

28. Kinda like Bush needs to stay the course in Iraq irrespective of what the electorate wants?

[PM7nj]

33. Stay the course?

MY EARS! I thought we banned that phrase!

[cali]

40. it's not what the "obamabots" want, hillybot

it's what the party wants that will ensure hillary gets off stage. She stays in after he's got the number, and her SDs will abandon her- in droves.

[elocs]

3. If Clinton continues to try and kneecap Obama and hurts him that causes him to lose to McCain,

then her future in the national Democratic Party is over. If McCain beats Obama and Clinton is construed to have a part in that loss by many Democrats, then if she thinks it has been tough for her this year she may as well forget 2012. Her future is in her hands and we will see if she is only in it for herself, or if she has any care or concern for the Democratic Party.

You know, we hear over and over about how we need to let everyone vote. As I recall, Kerry had it wrapped up early in 2004, but after that time I was still able to vote here in Wisconsin just as the people in the other states were able to do. Just because Kerry became the apparent nominee early on did not mean that they cancelled the rest of the elections and caucuses.

[hendo]

30. Yeah.

Yeah, by the time it was Colorado's turn in 2004 it was already decided. Pretty much like it is now for the remaining states. Sure, they can all still vote, but it isnt like they will change much of anything.

[Rageneau]

4. They CAN'T be any worse on her than they already are.

And as long as the RULES say she can stay in, she ought to follow the rules and stay in. After all, if it wasn't for the DNC insisting on her following the RULES, she'd have won this thing by now.

[cali]

20. I'll tell you what will happen if she stays in after Obama has the

requisite number needed to put him over the top: Her own party and her own delegates will abandon her. That simple.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. I sure hope nobody

proposes kicking her in the genitals!

[Bensthename]

14. They might for good reason.

[MonkeyFunk]

16. No

there's no good reason for that kind of hateful misogyny.

It's the sign of a sick, violent, hateful mind.

[Bensthename]

17. No

Lying is a sign of a sick, violent, hateful mind. I'm glad I am not one of her groupies to promote her fake outrage and lies.. Hillary is a waste of our time.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. Who's lying?

Didn't you say someone should kick Ferraro "in the cunt"?

I can't believe you can say something like that here and not get banned.

[Bensthename]

24. Hillary is lying.

And you know it.

That is why you are changing the subject because you know Hillary has a history of lying and is lying now.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. I don't thinks he's lying

I believe that if every state had closed primaries that counted, she'd win. I think she would've won the majority of democratic voters. I think you just really don't like that she's in the race at all.

But stay calm - I'd hate for you to go kick a woman over an internet discussion.

[Bensthename]

27. hmmm..

Obama has won by playing the game by the rules.. And it is fine that she is still in if she weren't making claims that "if the race were counted this way or that way I would be winning"..
You dont hear Obama claiming he has won twice as many states or how he has won the popular vote, most delegates, super delegates, endorsements, raised the most money, etc.. He is playing nice to appease Hillary and her voters

And yes, I will take your advise and stay calm. I have been a little too heated today..

[NotThisTime]

6. The MSM loves this crap, they hope she stays in

[AllentownJake]

8. Here is how this plays out

Obama will hit the magic number before June 3.

After Obama hits that number Clinton will have 2-3 days to figure out what she wants to do. During that time Super Delegates that have already endorsed her will be calling her to do the right thing. If she doesn't do the right thing 100 or so Super Delegates will drop their support.

[Political Heretic]

9. There will be blood. ;)

[Johnny__Motown]

10. I think she will just be ignored by then. SNL might still take some shots at here but most of us

are already over her

[Perry Logan]

11. We will hear the usual impotent attacks.

[sfam]

12. Hillary HAS kicked it down a notch...more than a notch in fact...

OK, so a few bad comments still escape from her lips. I think its fairly clear that she's at least trying to tone it down. I don't think we're gonna hear more "I like McCain more than Obama" lines from her. Those were the truly horrid comments. Now she's just giving the "I'm more electable because of this week's new electability argument" statements. Well OK...depending on what poll comes out, her electability argument has to change, and so does her talking points. Sometimes they don't come across as flattering, but I still see a marked difference from her previous comments.

And yeah, now she's getting annoyed that the press is ignoring her, that Obama, McCain and Bush are engaged in a feud, and she's become irrelevant. So we should expect a slightly louder stance in order to get attention. But she still has toned it down, so lets all chill. The end is coming...soon.

[last1standing]

13. I would call that a very unlikely hypothetical.

If Hillary takes this to the convention the the Democratic nominee will lose in 2008 regardless of who it is. The party will not have time to heal and a major contingent of Dems will sit out.

Some will say, this is exactly what she wants. The problem for Hillary even if she does want that is it would make 2012 impossible. Politicians are leaders and leaders require power. A Democratic president would increase the power of every Democrat in congress. Anyone who is seen to have blocked this will be sent to the hinterlands for some time. There is a reason Ted Kennedy didn't run for president in 1984.

So I'm not too worried at the moment about this primary going past June 3rd. Of course, anything can change in politics... and usually does.

[Hansel]

15. She will be increasingly marginalized as

both super and pledged delegates continue to move to Obama. Once Obama secures more than half of the pledged delegates that movement will accelerate to the point where she will have to just gracefully bow out.

I don't think anyone is going to confront her directly, but the marginalization will become increasingly humiliating for her.

[charlie and algernon]

22. he's going to get a ton after tomorrow

after he passes the Pelosi number. At that point, the entire democratic establishment will be behind Obama.

[Bensthename]

31. I hope so.. They should

They are party leaders and know the outcome that could happen if this goes on much longer.

[livetohike]

21. She will be ignored n/t

[DevonRex]

29. The MSM always loves an embarrassing Clinton meltdown. nt

[DearAbby]

32. It will be .............CLINTON WHO?

and it couldnt happen to better people :evilgrin:

[populistdriven]

34. Who is Hillary?

Is she that former presidential candidate? Bless her heart.

Remember how competitive of a race it was?

[Yukari Yakumo]

35. My take

It started after NC.
It will escalate after tomorrow.
By June 3rd, it will get brutal.

If she wants to have a political future anywhere, she'd drop out on the 21st (give or take a day).

[VotesForWomen]

36. could the treatment get any worse? i doubt it.

[dcindian]

38. Hillary is the Manchurian candidate

Hillary is the Manchurian candidate. Rove and Murdock funded, she has done her job with an uncanny efficiency.

I bet Rove lies awake at night too giddy to fall asleep at his handy work. Never in his wildest dreams could he have figured the utter willingness of the ignorant masses to follow a divisive, and hateful candidate right into the gut of fascism.

[stillcool]

39. At this point I say...

let her go. Let her do whatever the hell she wants, as long as she doesn't lie, cheat, or steal. I am so over Hillary Clinton.