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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:09 AM
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The only WOMAN DEMOCRAT both experienced and young enough to prepare for a Presidential run
Edited on Sun May-18-08 08:15 AM by Sensitivity
after Obama's 2 terms, is barred by the constitution from running.

With a Cabinet Appointment in the Obama administration she could gain the national and international experience to be a credible woman candidate. But she still could not run without a constitutional amendment.

Democrats had better start working on that problem.




Jennifer Granholm: Two Term Michigan Governor and Former State Attorney General
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:10 AM
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1. Careful with that amendment, we could see Pres. Terminator....
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:29 AM
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10. "Ah'm Heah To Lead, Not To Read!" (n/t)
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:11 AM
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2. Be careful what you ask for...
You might get Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:13 AM
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3. That amendment will never happen n/t
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:13 AM
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4. Was she born in another country?
If so, I support the Constitution as it is. I am not against immigration but when I look at how we are owned financially and how finances are so involved in a successful campaign I think the founding fathers were right on this one.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:16 AM
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6. Yes, she was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:48 AM
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17. When the "Arnie for Prez" group wanted to get that nasty little
problem fixed they were confronted with the Granholm situation.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:15 AM
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5. Or we could take over Canada and retroactively make her a natural-born American
:silly:
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:20 AM
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7. Isn't the bu$h administration working on taking over Canada?
They do have oil.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:28 AM
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9. And talk like south park Canadians?
Edited on Sun May-18-08 08:29 AM by Zachstar
I AINT YOUR BUDDY GUY!!!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:40 AM
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14. I AIN'T YOUR GUY, BUDDY!!!
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:09 AM
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32. I AIN'T YOUR BUDDY, FRIEND!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:55 PM
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44. I AIN'T YOUR FRIEND GUY!!
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:27 AM
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8. Not the only one. Janet Napolitano is only two years older and has similar experience.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Napolitano

Napolitano served as attorney for Anita Hill.

United States attorney for the District of Arizona

state attorney general

governor of the U.S. state of Arizona



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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:53 AM
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22. Did not realize Janet was so young
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:29 AM
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11. I'm rooting for Amy Klobuchar for President.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 08:31 AM by RC
http://klobuchar.senate.gov/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Klobuchar
Political positions

As a Democrat, Klobuchar's political positions have generally been in line with modern liberalism in the United States. She is pro-choice, supports LGBT rights, favors federal social services such as Social Security and universal health care, and is critical of President Bush's Iraq War.

Klobuchar opposed President Bush's plan to increase troop levels in Iraq in January 2007.<11> After president Bush vetoed a bill that would fund the troops, but would impose time limits on the Iraq War, (which Klobuchar voted for) and supporters failed to garner enough congressional votes to override his veto, in May 2007 she voted for additional funding for Iraq without such time limits,<12> saying she "simply could not stomach the idea of using our soldiers as bargaining chips".<13>

Klobuchar opposes free trade agreements that cause loss of jobs in the U.S. However, she has wavered on her opposition on such trade agreements since her election. A current trade agreement with Peru may achieve her support on grounds of expanded labor and environmental protections, even though they contain the same language of past trade agreements.<14>

In August 2007, Klobuchar was one of only 16 Democratic Senators and 41 Democratic House members to vote in favor of the controversial "Protect America Act", which was widely seen as eroding the civil liberty protections of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and posing difficult questions relative to the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<15><16> She did, however, vote against granting legal immunity to telecom corporations that cooperated with the NSA warrantless surveillance program.<17>

Klobuchar voted in favor of the Intelligence Authorization Act of 2008 which included a provision to ban the use of waterboarding by the United States.<18>

2008 Presidential Election

On March 30, 2008, Senator Klobuchar announced her endorsement of Senator Barack Obama in the Democratic Party presidential primary, promising her unpledged superdelegate vote for him.<19> She cited Obama's staggering performance in the Minnesota caucuses, where he won by 66% of the popular vote, as well her own "independent judgment" of his ability to inspire voters.





2012 or 2016 Amy Klobuchar for President.



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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:35 AM
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12. How about this one?
Edited on Sun May-18-08 08:36 AM by Jackpine Radical
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:46 AM
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16. That would be saweeet!
not gonna happen, but it would be awesome.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:55 AM
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24. Sorry, don't know her. Please post info
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:43 AM
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27. Heeeeeere's Tammy!:
Edited on Sun May-18-08 10:45 AM by Jackpine Radical
This link gets you to her bio page, which has links to the rest of her site. Check her out on the issues, etc.

She endorsed Hillary, BTW. I think mostly on purely pro-feminist grounds.

http://tammybaldwin.house.gov/aboutTammy.html

"In November 1998, Tammy Baldwin was elected to Congress - the first woman to serve in the House of Representatives from Wisconsin. She was re-elected to her fifth term in 2006.

"In the 110th Congress, Tammy serves on the Committee on Energy and Commerce and its subcommittees on Health; Energy and Air Quality; and the Environment and Hazardous Materials and the Judiciary Committee and its Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism Homeland Security. She is a leading advocate for universal health care and a proponent of energy independence and renewable fuels. Tammy is also a forceful supporter of civil rights and an advocate for those in our society whose voices, too often, are not heard."

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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:23 PM
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43. Looks like she could be on track for Job 1 -- Great
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:03 PM
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46. I think it was payback, not feminism
At the 2000 convention, Tammy Baldwin got to speak, even though she was a lowly freshman in Congress. My guess is that it was the Clintons who made that happen, and thus, she owed them.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:37 AM
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13. that rule protects us from the manchurian candidate scenerio
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:44 AM
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15. It's a stupid and archaic provision
That should have removed long ago.

Any time anyone suggests that here, the xenophobes come out in full force, using the Schwarzenegger bogeyman.

It's disgusting behavior, and it shows that the left reacts to immigrants in the same kneejerk way that the right does.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:30 AM
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38. Actually the first time I read about removing this....
Was by Right Wingers pushing Schwarzenegger for president. They discussed using Granholm as a "trojan horse" to get Democratic buy-in on the idea of repealing that amendment
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:45 PM
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41. I first thought it should be removed about 50 years ago
When I was an immigrant teenager in high school in Indiana, learning about the Constitution and American history.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:50 AM
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18. Are you saying that out of 150,000,000 women here,
there is only one young enough and capable enough? This is insulting to all women.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:00 AM
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20. Sure there are many. Sorry not visible to me. My criteria requires national prominence and repute
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:10 AM
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21. That still leaves dozens
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:51 AM
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19. A constitutional amendment seems too high of a mountain to climb
in a nativist climate. What is her record like?
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:15 AM
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35. I don't think that she would be a good candidatee unless she could
turn the Michigan economy around.

I'd like to move back to be closer to older relatives, but the job market is very bad.

Anyone who can turn the situation around SHOULD be president, as far as I'm concerned.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:55 AM
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23. I REALLY like her.. I doubt any such amendment will get passed anytime soon, and that is a shame.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:58 AM
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25. I think the rule was designed to keep out European Royalty and is now obsolete
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:10 AM
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26. It is obsolete. The last time it was discussed widely was when people were wondering
if Arnold would someday run. The dissenting voices were mainly on the Republican side, kept bringing up ridiculous arguments like manchurian candidate crap and saying it would never be repealed. I imagine we'd hear lots of fear fear tactics if this seriously came up as an issue.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:49 AM
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28. You clearly do not live in Michigan, sorry. Jenny will be lucky to hold office at this point.
She is not popular in Michigan and things for her keep getting worse.







Besides, Democrats don't screw with the Constitution for political gain, we leave that for the repugs

Here is my choice for Obama's VP

http://azgovernor.gov/index2.asp
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:56 AM
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29. Yup. Jen's DLC allegiance has crippled her.
Political appeasement (selling out people) is the real problem, not foreign policy appeasement.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:17 AM
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36. Please, Granholms unpopularity has everything to do with
the horrid economic reality here and zero to do with democratic party politics.At this point in Michigan,anybody at the helm of this sinking ship is in trouble,party politics is a luxury very few Michiganders are interested in contemplating right now.To assume her unpopularity has any connection to her"DLC appeasement" is laughable.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:04 AM
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30. Eight years is a long time in politics. There are plenty of women who would be experienced enough
most of whom I haven't heard of yet.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:05 AM
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31. One of the perps behind the Michigan primary screwup
Not for me.
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:10 AM
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34. Don't rule this young woman out


Kathleen Sebelius, 2 term (and popular) governor of Kansas.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:34 AM
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39. McCain would win if he chose her as VP. Good that she is a Dem w no time in Combat
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:35 AM by Sensitivity
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:19 AM
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37. Neither Granholm nor Schwartzenegger...
are worth amending the Constitution for.
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Basement Beat Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:44 PM
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40. I'll like to see her turn our economy around first...
....right now i'm not very thrilled with her performance. But then I think how horrible it would be with Devos...urgh.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:59 PM
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42. My point is not Jenny. It is that a obsolete rule could prevent a Woman aspiring to be President
and from preparing herself to take on that ultimate political challenge.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:57 PM
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45. Oh I thought you meant this one....


(my daughter is the one with her finger up her nose;) )
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