Abrams lecturing Obama supporters again: STFU and accept Hillary as VP

[LittleBlue]

He says "I know you don't like her, but..."... "they simply hate Hillary Clinton so much"... "they're not looking at it in terms of winning and losing..."

First, when did Abrams ever help Obama? He ran the Pastorgate nonstop for two weeks. Second, when did he donate a moment of his time in this campaign? He didn't. He has nothing at stake. Even Cliff May disagreed.

One guest questioned whether Obama supporters hate Hillary, and Abrams responded "I promise they do." WTF?

[Andy823]

1. Yes this is getting really old!

I am so tired of hearing him rant on this crap, and he needs to drop it!

She will rally the republican base, lose independents, cross over republicans, and ensure that McCain is the next president! Why the hell can't he address these things?

[papau]

32. Obama fans have a right to their hate/sexism & saying FU to uniting the party

[high density]

2. Luckily Abrams has no say in choosing our VP

The guy has a generally interesting show but he's really thick-headed when it comes to certain political issues.

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[LittleBlue]

5. If Clinton were VP, she'd be on record saying McCain is more qualified than Obama

her running mate. D'oh!

[Cha]

17. Day one?

Even if he lasted longer ..can you imagine having to deal with all of bilary's Slimey drama starting on Day One?

I can and I say no way. What's on dan abrams agenda that he's pushing hilary on us?

[BzaDem]

4. Of course Obama supporters hate Hillary. They admit as such unless responding to this thread.

But regardless, Abrams is pretty neutral. He vigorously defended Obama over bittergate.

[LittleBlue]

7. I don't think we hate Hillary

We just hate her policies and tactics. Personally I wouldn't dislike her at all if she hadn't voted for the war.

[papau]

34. Do you want a united party - or do you prefer seniors voting for McCain

[democrattotheend]

8. I agree about Abrams

He did defend Obama over bittergate, though he focused too much on Wright. He can be obnoxious but he's mostly fair, it seems. He picks on everyone from time to time.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Yeah...he did an entire special on Rev. Wright, the week end before

Indiana and NC voted.

No, he's definitly a Hillary shill.

I just ignore his ass.

He'll be going the way of Bow tie boy, he keeps it up.

[EFerrari]

28. I'm so tired of you guys throwing the word hate around as if

it really doesn't mean anything.

Do you just not understand that words have meaning or do you simply not care?

[mmonk]

6. It's not up to Obama supporters and to say Obama supporters hate

Hillary is quite amusing since polling of Clinton supporters is overwhelmingly anti-Obama to the point many declare they would help McCain and the republican party. Silly Abrams trying for ratings.

[thepurpose]

9. Hillary supporters love Hillary. Obama supporters luv Obama does that mean we can't all luv each

other when this is over? I think not.

[ecstatic]

10. He made a compelling argument BUT I just

don't trust Hillary anymore. Logically it seems fair to offer her the position because she had so many votes, but the woman lacks integrity.

Look at how easily she lies to us about the Gas tax plan, the Michigan/Florida situation, sniper fire. Look how eagerly she accepts Bush's framing of Iran... She basically voted for IWR part 2!!!

I really want Obama to win, but on the other hand, I don't want to have to shut off the TV in disgust whenever Bill or Hillary commandeers the microphone. I don't ever want to see them again once these primaries are over. I truly believe that they would undermine Obama at every turn. It's just not worth it!

[Misskittycat]

11. I wish he would STFU about this. n/t

[hisownpetard]

27. I'm wichoo.

[Cha]

13. Shut The Fuck UP, danny abrams and go

wallow in the hilary camp and see if you would like her as your running mate.

You're just full of advice..take it yourself..hire hilary as your vp in charge of whatever you do and see how you like it.

In the meantime I feel like emailing him and telling him "NO".

[EFerrari]

14. I don't know how any of you can watch him. After 2 minutes,

I can feel my brain cells dying off.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. It fulfills their need to hate

I usually catch the first few minutes since I have Keith on. But I have never lasted the entire hour.

He has been giving great coverage on the Siegelman story lately.

[EFerrari]

25. I was glad of that but he cut Don off and, it was sort of awkward.

Still, I'm glad he took up the story.

[sandnsea]

15. Abrams has always been for Hillary

Although I'm shocked that he'd so blatantly say so.

And yes, I hate her, and anybody who had watched this election honestly would too. People who are willing to win when their opponent wasn't even on the ballot are worthy of loathing.

[havocmom]

22. Hasn't it been shown he is a Republican?Abrams, I mean.

:shrug:

[sandnsea]

30. I don't think so

I don't think you can come out a Republican with Floyd Abrams as your father.

I think a lot of people have been confused by some of these pundits because they didn't understand they were repeating DLC Democrat rhetoric, which often sounded like right wing rhetoric, particularly on Iraq. If you sort them out and start seeing which mainstream journalists were speaking for the DLC Dems, and which for the Bushies, I think you get a clearer picture of what happened these last 8 years.

[stillcool]

16. Poppycock...

What does he have to do with the Democratic Party? Who gave him a leadership role?

[ErinBerin84]

18. Is there really nothing else on "VERDICT" to dicuss

every single night other than the possibility of a ticket that probably won't even happen? Honestly, I don't even think that Hillary would want to be Obama's VP, and as an Obama supporter, I'm ok with that. Dan needs some bizarre cult, sex slave, or girl on girl fight story to come up in the news so he has some new material for a week.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. Did you catch his first story? That was the more important one

about Rove and Conyers threatening to arrest him.

[Faygo Kid]

20. They go for a gimmick, something to be known for.

This is Abrams'. Pay no attention; it's meaningless.

[DangerousRhythm]

21. I actually wrote him an email just now.

Telling him to please stop trying to push the Clinton as veep thing. It's painful and he's been doing it all week. The media cannot force Obama to choose someone if he doesn't want to or if he thinks it may undermine his message of change vs. old politics. There are plenty of great governors (and others) to choose from who would do very well as veep. She isn't the only person available, has high negatives and the whole mess. It's like asking Obama to wear an albatross around his neck. Why on earth would this be a good idea? His idea is a terrible one and his frantic selling of the point every day this week is getting very tired. Obama doesn't owe Clinton anything and she's not entitled, end of story.

That was the gist of what I told him, nearly exactly, actually. I swear, if he keeps pushing this I'm just going to have to tune out because he's really hammering away at it and he just has no right to try to force this because he found some poll to support his silly idea.

[Tatiana]

23. Abrams loves Hillary. I don't mind. n/t

[Renew Deal]

26. Someone should tell Abrams that it's not our decision

And we'll live with her. It's really not a crisis.

[IDemo]

29. I had to email him last night after listening to him push this bs again

Your continuous drum pounding for a VP slot for Hillary is disingenuous, much like the media's calliope music for a non-stop primary. As a matter of fact, she has not "earned the right to be Obama's vice president" as you suggest, since no such right exists. It is the sole right and responsibility of the nominee and his advisers to make the choice of a running mate who will create the best balance for the ticket. There exists no bronze medal or consolation prize here.

Let's see if he reads it, coming up. :popcorn:

[mystieus]

31. It will be a force ticket.. nothing will get done in the white house.

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[AtomicKitten]

35. "VP isn't a consolation prize. She lost. There's no prize for second place."

Great letter read on Dan's show today.