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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 04:56 PM Original message |
HRC supporters: What Obama policy shifts would make it easiest for you to accept him? |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. 2 Biggies.. Education and Universal Healthcare. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. OK. That's a good suggestion. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. He mentioned Universal Healthcare. And Edwards could move that along. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Indeed. And perhaps we could even have somebody bring up single-payer in the plaform process |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I don't like either candidate's healthcare proposal |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I don't like either of the ones presented now. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. How? |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. I said Edwards could move Obama in the right direction ... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. What I really, really don't get about Edwards-- |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
79. I don't think he believes it will be acceptable to them. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. How about Elizabeth in a cabinet position? |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. It never occurred to me because I don't think of her as a "politician" ... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 04:35 AM Response to Reply #79 |
97. Accepting what the public supposedly now thinks is defeatism |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I wish people understood that what Hillary, Obama and Edwards offered |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I understand that just fine. The advantage of the OCE plans is that they have a good chance... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Well, it's not going to help if members of Dennis' own party call him |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I have a "thing" against Carlos Casteneda types... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Dennis ran as a progressive antiwar populist...he didn't drop peyote with Don Juan |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. :) |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
61. I'm pretty sure I never saw Kucinich at any of the Dead shows I was at. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
51. Dennis only pushed the 2004 version of Edwards much further left in 2008 |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. For a second there I thought you were referring to McCain |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
100. Exactly |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. That's because you won't get off of your ass and work for it |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. So how do we get them to go with HR 676 as the real health care plan? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
52. With more Dem congresscritters and massive organizing of the public |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
71. True enough. Well said. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
99. Agreed |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Universal healthcare is crap - just more guaranteed $$$ for insurance companies |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. I agree.. I suppose I should say that instead of Universal.. that's really |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Hi education plans are terrific |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. What specifically about education? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. There is zero difference between them on these issues |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
98. Two good ones |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. He's got to vow to get rid of NCLB (not tweak, toss) |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Differrent than Hillary? |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. She supports scrapping it NOW. She's been saying so for a couple of months. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Election year pandering?? |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. Why are we backing off on merit-based raises to teachers? |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
101. I think that rebuilding the public school system is incredibly important |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. I was ready, and still am, to accept either one of them |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. And I'm glad to hear that. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. I realize that |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. DFW, you've expressed my sentiments exactly. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
53. And she could pick an issue, any issue, and run with it like Gore has done-- |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Yes, she can! |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
102. Good point |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. Not a Clinton supporter, but a little less religion |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
25. I want to see Obama angry and tell off Bush/McCain himself. I want some passion of |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. you will see that |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
77. You will see that today. n/t |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. several things would help |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Excellent points. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
54. I say "judgment" trumps "experience" |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
70. but where is his great judgement? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Not supporting the Iraq war |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. but he has supported the war |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. If he chooses his advisors the way he chooses his campaign organizers-- |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
29. Defund the war now. Pull out in January 2009. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. A lot of us are with you on that. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Amen. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
55. We won't get that from either of them without a lot of pressure from the bottom |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## DON'T DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. Use the billions spent elsewhere to help our kids and the most needy |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. Nothing really I will vote for him... |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. How I feel about Hillary |
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anamnua (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
39. Is that James Connolly's image? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. He'd have less time for HRC. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Well, she's at least been forced to pay lip service to the 50 state strategy |
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anamnua (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
86. I respectfully disagree |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Best wishes. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. Nothing. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I hope you will change your mind. We are Democrats. We need to stand together. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
69. Deleted message |
Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #69 |
83. Neither Obama nor his supporters ever said we didn't need HRC supporters. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Manufactured by whom? Clinton has demonstrated that she is far too short-sighted |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. i'll support him once she gives up. i wont trust him. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
84. Why would you have any more reason to trust her? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
46. It's not about policy positions, when was the last time any candidate for any |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Clinton's character is that she is too short-sighted to be president |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. And what SPECIFIC things about Obama-the-person and Obama-the-person's character |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Why do I feel like you are shining a light in my eyes when you ask that question? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. It's just a question. |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
59. If he dropped out |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:18 AM Original message |
So we run a candidate whose themes are "experience" and "toughness" |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
66. The option? We choose a candidate who runs on "Change" but... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:18 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Or maybe he busts a REPUKE frame by running on "good judgment" |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. So we run a candidate whose themes are "experience" and "toughness" |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
81. I said other than that. And besides, If Obama did drop out |
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Secret_Society (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
67. Needs to take a more progressive stance on Healthcare |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
72. If he marches in a GLBT pride parade and sends Michelle to a gay bar to campaign |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
75. garnishing of real dem votes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
76. Deleted message |
Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. "a silver spoon Republican operative." |
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olkaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Seriously, go vote for McCain and become a conservative. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. You aren't really saying that the Obama campaign is a GOP plot, are you? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
87. Okay Ken here is the big one for me |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Probably because there ISN'T such a plan.... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. The truth of the matter is, oil is a finite resource. It's only going to get more expensive. |
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thunderdog (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
88. The only policy shift that the next Prez can directly affect is Iraq. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
92. Well, you didn't ask me, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. As a Kucinich supporter turned Obama supporter(after Dennis was forced out) |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. Thank the Stars, God or Whatever or Not that Dennis never wore a "Flag Pin" n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. I would add a few more policy shifts to earn more of what little support he has now from me... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I agree with all of those, as well. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. I think the only thing I actually agree with him on is indexing Minimum wage with inflation... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. A true living wage should be a priority, I agree. n/t |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
95. Policy shift? Sex change more like it |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #95 |
108. I'm a male, I could care less about electing a woman as president and I love Hillary (eom) |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. OK, then what would it take to get you to accept ther reality that our nominee |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. What I'll probably do is vote for Obama in the 2008 GE and vote against him in |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. I've said I would repeatedly. I'll say it again. |
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Rob_4_Obama (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. If Obama is elected |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. I'd be shocked if there wasn't. If Obama is a terrible president, which I assume he will be, |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
107. Tried to rec.. 24 hr rule killed it... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
112. When Hillary sports a "Flag Pin" on her Pant's Suit Jacket! |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
114. A few things |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
115. His credibility is the problem |
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Rob_4_Obama (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Wow-harsh |
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Rob_4_Obama (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
116. Unfortunately, I doubt a majority oppose him on policy grounds |
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