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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:55 PM
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How can Obama win their votes when he doesn't even know who they are ?
Edited on Thu May-15-08 01:57 PM by SparkyMac
This is a fairly good article about Obama's need of the working vote:

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3682/winning_the_white_working_class/

But it's the picture with the article that shows even the newsmen covering Obama have no idea what a working man is.

Here is the headline to the picture :

"...Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) walks with construction workers at Evansville University in Evansville, Ind., on May 5..."

But this picture does not show construction workers. It shows supervisors of construction workers.



White helmets are known as "boss hats". Workers wear yellow and orange.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:56 PM
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1. And....stretch.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:57 PM
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3. And REACH!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:42 PM
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23. And... PULL
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:57 PM
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2. Oh lordy loo
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:57 PM
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5. hahaha!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:57 PM
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4. He referred to Pennsylvania as the Midwest, also
which passed relatively unnoticed. I'll give him a pass on the 57 states.
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:02 PM
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11. You know, that's funny ...
I went to school in Western PA, about 10 miles from the Ohio border and I can tell you that a lot of people there (I don't know about the 'Burgh) think of themselves as 'midwesterners.' Lots of them rooted for the Cleveland teams and I think few of them would identify themselves as 'mid-Atlantic,' considering just how much land there is between the Ohio border and the ocean. :shrug:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:04 PM
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13. I'm from Cleveland myself
Edited on Thu May-15-08 02:11 PM by YOY
I hate being called a midwesterner. It's like being lumped in with Kansas and Idaho. Chicago, Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh: They're rather large cities...not big farms.

None-the-less we are midwesterners
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:28 PM
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16. I lived in STL for a while ...
And people in STL will tell you--only Hoosiers are midwesterners! ;)
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:35 PM
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20. We're technically Great Lakers.
But I've never been insulted by being called a "midwesterner". As long as they don't assume I grew up on a farm, it's all good.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:46 PM
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25. You forgot Cincinnati. But, you're from Cleveland, so I'll forgive you.
You Clevelanders need all the help you can get ;-)
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:09 PM
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28. Idaho?
You think Idaho is in the midwest. If idaho is in the midwest, then so is pennsylvania. And, by the way, Illinois is clearly in the midwest. Why do you have this narrow-minded view that midwest = backwoods rural fucks. Minneapolis is a large metro area. So is Milwaukee. And it ain't like Cleveland is this wonderful urban mecca--it's pretty much Milwaukee a couple states over.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:33 PM
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19. Western Pennsylvania is the Midwest. n/t
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:57 PM
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6. That's pretty weak sauce n/t
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:58 PM
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7. Maybe where you are. It varies. And anyway, it's a photo caption, not a policy statement.
This is a very silly thread.
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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:32 PM
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18. I figure the next picture will show Obama dining with the Ford family ...
Edited on Thu May-15-08 02:32 PM by SparkyMac
..and the caption will say "Obama relaxes with auto workers".
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:59 PM
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8. So bad it calls for a really sad "fail"
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:59 PM
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9. He knows what a working man is
Here he is from one month ago at the steel mill my Dad, Grandfather and Uncles (all RIP) worked at:

?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1933B836CAF14D5D5C81465CA423A3E90EE5A5397277B4DC33E
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:01 PM
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10. "Doesnt know who they are"?!
Raised by a single mother, occasionally on welfare.

Was a community organizer in inner city Chicago.

And compared to Hillary "Wellsley grad" Rodham Clinton, raised on a small estate, now worth over $100 million, people think SHE knows the working people better?

:rofl:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:02 PM
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12. I can't believe we're all democrats
Why do I even read these things? I must be itching for a fight or something. Oh, I know...I'm a drama queen crisis junkie. That's why I come to GD-P.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:06 PM
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14. Of the 29 primaries since New Hampshire from which delegates
have been allocated,Obama has won 15. But in doing so, he got a majority of the white votes in just five of the 29 contests. And while winning three of the eight primaries held since March 4, Obama won a majority of the white vote in only one — Vermont."
-- Dwayne Wickham, AA, "Obama's Vulnerability: White Voters" USA Today

Now if I read Mr Wickham right, Obama won white people in only 6 out of 37 states? Should Obama a black man be allowed to win the White House? WELL SURE. GOODNESS. But if the biggest voting block in America, "uneducated whites",(which obama's campaign looks down on) won't have it, or vote for him, then we're left with two choices: We can vote for "the way things OUGHT to be" and possibly lose, or we can accept the fact that America is a terribly racist country, and run our white candidate and possibly win.

I'm not happy that I live in a terribly racist country, I suppose you aren't, either, but the question has become, "Do we want to win or do we want to make a point?"

If obama wins then GREAT! If Obama loses then what is next? There should be no blame directed towards HRC because she is showing just how low he is seen in the blue collar folks eyes and unless Obama gets much stronger on his own, he'll need Clinton more than ever in November. That's the only ticket that makes sense now.


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:35 PM
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21. your crap comments about Obama being "ALLOWED" to win
or run, got your thread locked yesterday, but you just can't stop with the racist bullshit. It's disgusting. And sorry, but your hilly girl lost.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:13 PM
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15. please tell me you accidentally left off the sarcasm smilie
Edited on Thu May-15-08 02:14 PM by onenote
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:31 PM
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17. LOL. Hate to break it to you, but Obama doesn't caption the photos
in newspapers. How can you possibly assume that Obama doesn't know who the construction workers are from a newspaper caption he had nothing to do with. Try again, and try using some basic logic this time. Fail.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:37 PM
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22. FAIL
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:44 PM
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24. So, Obama is raised by working-to-middle class WHITE people, and NOW he doesn't understand them?
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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:05 PM
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26. Who was it who raised Obama -- and worked ?
His grandfather was retired. His mother was on welfare.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:11 PM
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29. Yes, you are right
nobody on welfare works.

I think you might be at the wrong site.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:06 PM
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27. Bank of Hawaii's first female vice president, hardly working class.
Punahou School, one of the state's top private schools. Not so working class, is it.
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