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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:22 PM
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Kicking and screaming.
I am a 43-year-old white female. Neither of my parents went to college; my dad was a career enlisted man in the Air Force, now retired. I was born in and grew up in the south, and most of my family still lives there. They have varying levels of education among them; some of us went on to college, some didn't. Some are poor, some are middle class.

I went to public schools, attended a state university (Texas A&M, gig 'em!), and put myself through grad school (at another state school). I've lived on both coasts--now in Los Angeles--and make an OK income.

I was a hardcore Edwards supporter, and am now happy to support Obama. I've been watching the very heated debate here the last couple of weeks about the voters in appalachia, and the discord over being rightly offended by the ignorance and small-mindedness while at the same time recognizing the importance of not disrespecting people who, for the most part, are working their asses off and struggling just to get by. It's a complicated situation, and both sides are right to a certain extent.

I am not an elitist (though I do enjoy the occasional latte). And I WANT those blue-collar, lower income voters to vote with me in November. For Obama. For a black man. For someone who apparently scares the bejeesus out of a measurable subset of them. I have a hard time respecting a lot of these people, and not because I'm an elitist or a snob--I have a hard time respecting them because I have an intolerance for intolerance. I abhor ignorance, especially of the willful variety. These people are, as is perhaps too kindly said of them, products of their environment, of their generation.

Okay, I understand that. That describes many members of my extended family. So many of these people are tired and (yes) bitter, and for good reason. But it's not for the reason they've been told--they've been fooled into turning on their fellow man instead of the powers that be, been told subtly but unmistakably that the black man who lives on the other side of town (or the brown man or that woman who doesn't know her place) will take his job, or has already taken his job. That he's a threat to their way of life, that he's inferior, or doesn't love America, or he's uppity. I understand why they're tired and angry, but I want them to understand the broader circumstances that are keeping them pinned down. I also don't intend to let them get away with using that struggle as an excuse to hold on to old, ugly prejudices; to wallow in small-mindedness, and to keep their perspectives narrow and exclusionary. That is a compromise we should never, ever make.

But I still want them to vote with me, with us. Because IF we can get them to vote with us, then there's a good chance they'll be carried along on this wave that has the potential to expand the soul of our nation. I want them to vote with us even if they're pissed as all hell to do so. I want them to evolve. I want to find some way to get them to understand that IF they vote with us, and we can sweep this current regime out of power, then we can offer them the very opportunities they need to learn and grow, to be safe and fed and healthy. Many of them, especially in appalachia, are not going to want to do this. That's where (and why) we have to temper our rightful disdain for ignorance and bigotry by reaching out to them, and attempt to educate and encourage and broaden collective perspectives.

I will not, under ANY circumstances, compromise what is right to get their vote; none of us should. I will also not say "to hell with you, stay home." I want every last one of their pissed off, begrudging votes. I want them to go with us, if they have to go kicking and screaming. Howling with anger and outrage. I think that's healthy. I think that's the first step in getting them to see that it's okay to vote for a black man (or a woman or a gay man or whatever is so far outside their experience that they're utterly terrified of it), that it's okay to vote for somebody who doesn't fetishize the flag and turn love of country into something obscene and jingoistic. If they're muttering with resentment all the way to the polls, that's fine with me. I'll give them a big hug and a huge smile and thank them profusely for their vote. Because if they get angry, I know we have their attention. And if we have their attention, then there's the opportunity to learn and grow. I know that fear and ignorance go hand-in-hand, and education and economic opportunity are the only way to cure that double curse. And we will ALL be better for it if we all vote together this year.

It won't be easy to do this. It may be almost impossible to do this. But I want them to know that as much as I may disagree with their worldview, I want their vote. I want them to choose the candidate who will do far more to improve their lives than the nimrods in the GOP. And not because we compromise to make them feel less threatened, but because we find a way to show them there's no reason to feel threatened. Can Obama make this happen? I don't know. I hope so, but it's really not about what Obama can do. It's about what we, the boots on the ground, can do. I'm ready to do this, and we have to do this.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:24 PM
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1. Damn you and your mathematical training!
:P
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:27 PM
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2. Wow, beautifully said!
Especially this:

I think that's the first step in getting them to see that it's okay to vote for a black man (or a woman or a gay man or whatever is so far outside their experience that they're utterly terrified of it), that it's okay to vote for somebody who doesn't fetishize the flag and turn love of country into something obscene and jingoistic. If they're muttering with resentment all the way to the polls, that's fine with me.

Thank you!

K&R

:patriot:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:31 PM
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3. Thank you!
We've got work to do. :pals:
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:37 PM
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4. apt screen name
this was perfectly written-

i've endured my share of racism over the years, and i'm tired of being angry about it-

it's time to just get rid of it altogether, and i like your way

drag them kicking & screaming if necessary...


k&r btw
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:38 PM
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5. You can't free 'dem Slaves
'caus 'dey be takn' jobs from white folk.

Anonymous 1865.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:06 PM
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6. Very well stated, Shakespeare...
I feel the same way. "They" have an intolerance of tolerance. "We" have an intolerance of their intolerance. The question is, in order for "them" and "us" to come to a point of mutual respect, one of the intolerances has to give at least a litte. Which one will it be? I think you answer that where you say "That's where (and why) we have to temper our rightful disdain for ignorance and bigotry by reaching out to them,"

Your words are thoughtful, caring and inspirational. I get a sense of the inspiration you yourself have found to want to do something and make a difference. Your sharing of that inspiration can move many.

Inspiration needs to be grounded in the physical world of cause/effects and action/results. So I'm gonna challenge you a just little bit... Do you know yet what that means for yourself? When you say "But I want them to know that as much as I may disagree with their worldview, I want their vote." and "It's about what we, the boots on the ground, can do. I'm ready to do this", what do you mean? Living in Calif, what can you do and how can you do it? You may not know yet, but what are you thinking now?



:loveya:


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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:16 PM
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9. Phone banking, for sure. One "problem" with being in California...
...is that I'm for the most part surrounded by like-minded individuals (it's one of the reasons I moved here). But I can (and have) done lots of phone bank volunteering to other states, and will continue to do that. I'll probably also volunteer to go up into the (very, very red) central valley here in California this summer and fall for door-knocking and other outreach activities.

I'm also working on my less-enlightened extended family, which is a quixotic endeavor at best, but we'll see. Hope springs eternal.

And, as always, I'll continue to write. :hi:
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:20 PM
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13. Hey, GREAT!
I'm a former So Calif person myself, so I know about those very red areas. I have a sister near Tehchapi. She had no idea what sort of political climate she was getting herself into when she moved up there from Long Beach in 2004. I moved to a different red zone at the same time - Phoenix - but have since moved to blue Portland, OR, where I'm much more comfortable.

Sounds like you got a good plan! The Calif central valley could definitely use some of your inspiration. If you can get them to see that a more positive future is possible for them with Obama leading the country, you'll be able to get some of those votes you want.

You GO, girl... you rock bigtime!


:yourock:


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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:06 PM
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7. One of the best posts
I have read on this board. Thank you so much.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:22 PM
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10. Thank you!
:blush:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:08 PM
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8. You rock madame Shakespeare
Big K & R
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:12 PM
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11. Great post. They allow themselves to be fooled into hating citizens
instead of leaders.

Here's where I can't quite let them off the hook: I'm a country person, too. And we're practical and earthy and level-headed. We don't have time or money or effort to waste. You say it, you do it, or shut up.

People who still haven't woken up need to realize, that what the GOP leaders say, and what they do, doesn't match.

Like, Veteran support. Words and lapel pins and flags and all, But no actual support.

Like caring about small business and then eliminating personal bankruptcy, but not corporate banruptcy.

Like refusing to insure everyone for health care.

On and on and on. After a while, everyone should catch on. And they should'nt be fooled by the next one: McCain or whoever.

But they allow themselves to hate libruls and then ignore when the words still don't match the actions.

Country people are smarter than that on everything else, but they seem to resent big city people so much, that they become blind to their own leaders' shortcomings.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 04:00 PM
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12. Kick, no scream. n/t
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:23 PM
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14. You're an Aggie?
That makes me a little squeamish, but glad you support Obama. :)
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:24 PM
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15. There are a few of us here on DU, believe it or not.
We're hardcore, baby. :thumbsup: :7
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:32 PM
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16. I have a lot of respect for it...
Edited on Thu May-15-08 05:33 PM by TTUBatfan2008
as a school, but the Corps and all the "traditions" reminds me of Republicans oddly enough. Granted, Tech is conservative as hell too, but I chose it over UT because I hated the fact that UT felt so crowded whereas Tech is a lot more spread out. Plus, I got into the Honors College, which provided me with much better on-campus housing. My older sister was at Tech so that was also an incentive. And although I began undecided, I ended up in a major that neither UT nor A&M offer: Petroleum Land Management. I graduated recently (May 10th) but wow was I ever burned out on school. I think I probably would have been more dedicated in college if I hadn't done so well in high school. I still did pretty good though considering most of the kids in my major struggled even more than I did. Our major only had two teachers, both lawyers. My GPA tanked from a 3.85 starting my junior year to a 3.56 by graduation. But I know a lot of kids in my major that were at around a 3.2 starting our junior year and tanked just as bad. I got 3 C's in college, all from the same teacher.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:34 PM
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17. "it's really not about what Obama can do. It's about what we, the boots on the ground, can do."
Oh so very very very well said!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:17 AM
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18. Thanks for a GREAT post!
Well said!


Yes WE Can!


K and R :patriot:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:24 AM
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19. Beautiful Thank you. K&R
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