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oldpol Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:09 AM
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Huffington Post: It's Past Time for Hillary Clinton to Address Race-Baiting Questions
James Zogby
Wed May 14, 7:41 PM ET



On March 18 of this year, Barack Obama delivered a powerful and much-needed address on race in America. It is past time for Hillary Clinton to do the same.



I say it is past time because, in recent weeks, we have seen troubling signs of a racial divide within the Democratic coalition, some of which has been fueled, whether intentionally or not, by the Clinton campaign and its surrogates.

Even if Senator Clinton did not mean to disparage Barack Obama and Martin Luther King, Jr., with her comments in New Hampshire; even if Bill Clinton did not mean to dismiss Barack Obama's win in South Carolina (or for that matter Jesse Jackson's 1988 victory), with his off-hand comments after that primary; even if Geraldine Ferraro had a deeper point in mind (although, for the life of me I can't figure out what it might have been); even if the former president did not mean to imply that, as long as Obama was a candidate, race would intrude on the great debate this country needed and would only be able to have if McCain and Clinton, "the two patriotic Americans," were the candidates; even if the Clinton campaign did not mean to keep the Jeremiah Wright story alive long after it should have been put to rest; even if Senator Clinton and her surrogates did not intend to continue to raise questions about Obama's patriotism and religion but were only answering questions they were asked; and finally, even if she was only quoting the Associated Press by noting that "Senator Obama's support among working, hardworking Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites... were supporting me" -- the simple fact is that at least in part due to all of this, race has reared its ugly head in this primary in a deeply divisive way.

Those of us who have been out campaigning have heard it. Those of us who are superdelegates have received emails suggesting only Clinton can win, with the not too-subtle implication that it is because only she can win over white voters. That, of course, is not true as Iowa, Wisconsin, Virginia, and Illinois, among many others have clearly demonstrated.

For decades now, Republicans have exploited race and fear as weapons in ugly campaigns to defeat Democrats. Nixon's, Reagan's, and George H.W. Bush's campaigns come to mind. I do not recall race being used before in a Democratic presidential campaign.

There are those who suggest that, when this campaign is over, the party will unify. I believe that waiting is not an option. Senator Clinton needs to clear the air and drain this poison from our party before any greater damage is done. A speech on race would be a sign of real leadership, and genuine healing, and bring us closer to the victory we so desperately need in November 2008.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080514/cm_huffpost/101770
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:30 AM
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1. I was thinking that just today......
that until Hillary apologizes for the way her campaign carried on, she will not have a great legacy.

Strange that someone else would have the same idea.

She needs a speech, and she needs it quick before her taking us back 20 paces back in time is where we end up staying. Same with her dumb elitist comments.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:07 AM
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16. Apologizing would be admitting she's done it in the first place.
Hillary doesn't make mistakes you know. She never admits wrong-doing. She's very Bush like in that particular and peculiar character trait. Let's put it this way: i think it will be a cold day in hell before she apologizes for the deplorable tactics she has used in this race.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:40 AM
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29. .
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:30 AM
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2. accidental double posting.
Edited on Thu May-15-08 03:31 AM by FrenchieCat
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:39 AM
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3. hey I know you're feeling pretty good right now aren't you Frenchie
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 04:03 AM
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7. I'm not feeling good till Hillary officially gets out of the race.
Till then, I'm proud of the campaign Obama has ran, and I will leave it at that. :)

Losta of "ignores" below me. What gives?
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:00 AM
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11. Re:Ignores=Nothing of substance.
The predictable bitterness and "sweetiegate". :hi:

Hopefully, HRC will bow out soon with some dignity. Someone should tell her...A lady knows when to make her exit. It's past time. As a woman, it really pains me to see her making a fool of herself.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:57 AM
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20. Hillary people think we are stupid.
Edited on Thu May-15-08 06:57 AM by dkf
Even after her hard working whites debacle they still deny she is race baiting.

They are just like Bush's 28% who can't see how bad he is.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:42 AM
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4. She doesn't have to do jack. Obama's big race speech was just a way to
distract from the real issue, which was that Wright was a total loon.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:44 AM
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5. Past time for the Democratic Party to address the issues of sexism isn't it "Sweetie" ?
And it is past time that we stop demeaning all those who don't like Obama as "racist".
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 04:35 AM
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8. Well said.
:thumbsup:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:36 AM
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14. Absolutely
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:51 AM
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18. There is a link to his response here on DU this AM
Edited on Thu May-15-08 06:54 AM by goclark
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5980566
He addressed it in a manner that was his style ~ honest and appropriate.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:26 AM
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25. ah gee, he addressed sexism.! NOT.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:48 AM
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6. hey Zog: "Senator Obama needs to clear the air and drain this poison ..."
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 04:40 AM
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9. Nice wish, Mr. Zogby
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be hearing any such profundities from Camp Clinton any time soon.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 04:50 AM
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10. Except that Hillary shares the disturbingly arrogant Bush-like trait of NOT apologizing
She's a sneaky, legalistic word-parser.

She couldn't say flat-out that she was sorry for the remarks that Bill made regarding SC and Jesse Jackson and Obama. Instead, she said "I'm sorry if anyone was offended". There was an article commenting on the slick difference between that and a straightforward apology.

She had to be cornered into an admission that her multiple accounts of the Bosnia landing were a lie.

She couldn't even "congratulate" Obama on his NC win. She "commended" him. http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/2849353/

Contrast that with Obama's quick responses to make amends and APOLOGIZE, as he did today when everyone got their backs up about the "Sweetie" comment to a reporter. Those of us who pay attention to commentary during his campaign stumps and have heard him use that as a habitual term of endearment understand it wasn't a malicious attempt to demean anyone, but he owned it anyway, and did it quickly.

Clinton has to be cajoled and coaxed into grudging acknowledgement. That's not a very positive trait.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:10 AM
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12. huffpo should read www.attacktimeline.com to see obama's been
doing the race baiting...for a long time. what he says in public is not what he actually does
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:10 AM
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21. That site is pathetic
Takes everything out of context. Doesn't mention what Hillary camp or MSM said first or after, no background explanation, partial quotes, wrongly paraphrases what Obama camp said, misleading about how said it. Only professional victims take it seriously.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:21 AM
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13. Yes...
the race-baiting should be questioned, but it's the clear, and transparent attempts of Obama and his acolytes that should be confronted. Every accusation of playing the race card in this article is based upon the same faulty perception. That Clinton started it. That's a lie that O fans have embrace to justify their phony outcries of racism. Phony outcries that were hatched in the Obama camp for one reason. They knew, and still know they could not come close to winning without it.

Try a dose of reality.

<http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/17133626.html>

Sean Wilentz
is the Sidney and Ruth Lapidus professor of history at Princeton University


"Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama's pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the "black" candidate.

Having injected racial posturing into the contest, Obama's "post-racial" campaign finally seems to be all about race and sensational charges about white racism. But the mean-spirited strategy started even before the primaries began, when Obama's operatives began playing the race card - and blamed Hillary Clinton.

Had she truly conspired to inflame racial animosities in January and February, her campaign would have brought up the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his incendiary sermons. But the Clinton campaign did not. And when the Wright stories and videos finally did break through in the mass media, they came not from Clinton's supporters but from Fox News Network.

Although Wright had until recently been obscure to the American public, political insiders and reporters have long known about him. On March 6, 2007, the New York Times reported that Obama had disinvited Wright from speaking at his announcement because, as Wright said Obama told him, "You can get kind of rough in the sermons." By then, conservative commentators had widely denounced Wright. His performances in the pulpit were easily accessible on DVD, direct from his church. But Clinton, despite her travails, elected to remain silent.

Instead, she had to fight back against a deliberately contrived strategy to make her and her husband look like race-baiters. Obama's supporters and operatives, including his chief campaign strategist David Axelrod, seized on accurate and historically noncontroversial statements and supplied a supposedly covert racist subtext that they then claimed the calculating Clinton campaign had inserted.

In December, Bill Shaheen, a Clinton campaign co-chair in New Hampshire, wondered aloud whether Obama's admitted youthful abuse of cocaine might hurt him in the general election. Obama's strategists insisted that Shaheen's mere mention of cocaine was suggestive and inappropriate - even though the scourge of cocaine abuse has long cut across both racial and class lines. Pro-Obama press commentators, including New York Times columnist Frank Rich, then whipped the story into a full racial subtext, charging that the Clintons had, in Rich's words, "ghettoized" Obama "into a cocaine user."

The Obama campaign and its supporters pressed this strategy after Clinton's unexpected win in New Hampshire. Pundits partial to Obama, including Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post and John Nichols of the Nation, instantly mused that their candidate lost because of supposedly bigoted New Hampshire whites who had lied to pre-primary pollsters - an easily disproven falsehood that nevertheless gained currency in the media.

Next morning, Obama's national co-chair, Jesse Jackson Jr., cast false and vicious aspersions about Hillary Clinton's famous emotional moment in New Hampshire as a measure of her deep racial insensitivity. "Her appearance brought her to tears," said Jackson, "not Hurricane Katrina."

Obama's backers, including members of his official campaign staff, then played what might be called "the race-baiter card." Hillary Clinton, in crediting both Lyndon Johnson as well as the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for the Civil Rights Act in 1964, had supposedly denigrated King, and by extension Obama. Allegedly, Bill Clinton had dismissed Obama's victory in South Carolina by comparing it to those of the Rev. Jesse Jackson in the 1980s. (In fact, their electoral totals were comparable - and in the interview at issue, Clinton complimented Obama on his performance "everywhere" - a line the media usually omitted.)

Thereafter, Obama's high command billowed further race-baiter allegations into the media. Pointing to the notoriously right-wing Drudge Report, Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign of deliberately leaking a supposedly racist photograph of Obama in African garb, which actually originated on still another right-wing Web site. Finally, David Axelrod trumpeted Geraldine Ferraro's awkward remarks in an obscure California newspaper as part of the Clinton campaign's "insidious pattern" of divisiveness.

One pro-Obama television pundit, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, fulminated that the Clinton campaign had descended into the vocabulary of David Duke, former grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan.

(In his Philadelphia speech on race, Obama pressed the attack by three times likening Ferraro to Rev. Wright.)

Since the Philadelphia speech, the candidate and his surrogates have sounded tone-deaf on the subject of race. On March 20, Obama described his Kansas grandmother to a Philadelphia radio interviewer as "a typical white person." The same day, Sen. John Kerry said that Obama would help U.S. relations with Muslim nations "because he's a black man." Another Obama supporter, Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri, called him the first black leader "to come to the American people not as a victim but as a leader." Her history excluded and conceivably denigrated countless black leaders, from Frederick Douglass to Rep. John Lewis. Obama remained silent, refusing to take Kerry and McCaskill to task for their racially charged remarks."

The race-baiting, and using it like a brickbat is all Obama and friends. Spin it any way one likes, but facts are facts. The majority of Obama supporters, especially those on DU are hateful, and self-loathing individuals who, in the words of one American citizen "Are in love with the idea of Obama, and not the ideas of Obama". Clear, concise summarization. Thanks.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:13 AM
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23. Thanks! And Wilentz is the historian who wrote the RS piece saying W is the "worst president"
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history


I wonder if the pro-Obama DUers who loved his analysis then can cope with what he says about Obama's strategy:

Obama's bogus "race-baiter" strategy is one of the main reasons he has come this far, and it is affecting the process now. But by deliberately inflaming the most destructive passions in American politics, the strategy has badly divided and confused Democrats, at least for the moment. And having done so, it may well doom the Democrats in the general election.

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rodrigo2xxx Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:49 AM
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28. article by sydney is null... the Clintons may have planified that since they start to loose....
In fact, the point is that if Obama was at Hillary's place,

1/ He would have already leave the place by now.
2/ He would not have played the race game, because it was more intelligent not to play the game. I mean, by being outraged about the race attacks Obama was receiving by Fox, the intelligent move could have been to protect him, and say; "We are outraged by Fox new, the way this insane TV is insulting Obama". This was by far, by far, more intelligent and more confident.
3/ She didn't, she even play the other way. Therefore she shows what she's lacking the most, self confidence... and this is the most important for a president.

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In fact the point is that simple. Hillary is not very clever or else .... She's maybe a rock, but intelligent as a rock ... ? By playing the race game, she only show her lacks of ethics, and this the most important for us.
But these guys (the Clinton's) are politicos ... so this is no sense. How could they be so stupid ? I mean these guys think no ?
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I do believe she will go to june, to try to create a clash, say "bouhhh look at them, they are unfair..." and then try to continue and launch a third way... the centre ... It has nothing to do with working class or else, just with the fact that she and bill believe there's a way, today, just at the middle... between McCain and Obama.

Therefore the idea of race attacks is planed. It is the only way to attain the third way by destroying both sides. It does not care about the democratic party. It's already finished... by them. You're seeing actually the raise of the third way, Clinton's party.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:04 AM
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15. But the truth is just the opposite: "When Kos spread The Big Lie...that the Clintons are racists..."
Edited on Thu May-15-08 06:05 AM by Perry Logan
"...he committed the single most barbaric act ever to sully a Democratic primary campaign."
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:22 AM
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17. As you will see in some responses, they will deny they were race
baiting even though I recognized it fairly early on since I lived through the helms years in NC. But when the republicans decided to pick up the theme and join in here this time when the primary got to us, it failed. It would be nice if she just rejected race baiting through a statement (as I don't trust her in a speech format).
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:54 AM
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19. Obama would never have given his race speech...
...had the Wright issue not come up. That's the truth.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:12 AM
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22. "Seriously, why is it racist to call a black man a monkey but not a white man?"
You're not exactly the person I'm looking to when I need an opinion on race issues.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:17 AM
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24. Obviously I am...you had the need to reply.
Your post is too funny. Think about it awhile...you may eventualy get it.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:41 AM
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27. That is a serious charge
I've spent the last 10 minutes trying to read a blog where he said that. It is inflammatory and would force me to give his opinion as much credence as I give Pat Buchanan.

Tell me where I can get more context for that quote.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:28 AM
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26. he did it cause he waa in deep poo-poo --Of his OWN doings. Went to Fox to top it off.
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