It is over and many folks here still need to grieve

[nadinbrzezinski]

that many folks is actually about twenty... not more...

But the fact is that by any metric this is over.

Now on to the General Election, which is where we need to go and get ready to defeat McCain.

This is the future now...

Oh and I do not expect HRC to get to be the VEEP... in many ways the Dems don't do that. So I'd not expect this.
But... this is the reality. This is over and time that people do their grieving... and I expect somebody like Strickland or Sebelius to be quite high in the short list... and HRC as pro-forma.

And to the rest of you... I beg you... don't argue. None of them is ready for reason... and no metric will convince them

The only thing that MIGHT convince them before the convention is a concession speech. Somehow with some I don't expect them to get it even then.

That said... I have to ask, why is this campaign so emotional? I submit to you folks that they are not that different policy wise. Hence people fell in love with personalities. But this has not been about policy for a long time... and I fear that both campaigns have been guilty of quite a bit of cult of personality. Sorry, as somebody seeing it from the outside, ti is easy to spot. Both are centrist, and both are quite conservative.

But for the moment it is time to move on to GE mode and stop arguing with those who cannot see it... it is over... move on... your candidate has... do the same. Any bs pots about why HRC can still win should simply be ignored... since no metric shows this is possible anymore.

It is OVER... period... we are now in GE mode

[Eurobabe]

1. It's over, and I think perhaps BO

needs a governor to round out the ticket. But then I also like the idea of someone with stellar FP credentials. Who does that sound like? Richardson. I need to ponder.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Srickland may give him OH

that is why I am thinking him... and he is also a Clinton Ally, same goes for Sebelius

[Lerkfish]

3. i'm in Ohio, and I have my doubts that strickland would deliver Ohio in and of himself

I think it would be better to have aVP that appeals to more than just one state.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. True, I am sure they are looking at this from many POVs

[Ytzak]

5. Admiral William J. Fallon, or Governor: Kathleen Sebelius...

would be good candidates for VP. Sebelius would appeal to the women who still yet grieve for HRC, and Fallon would wipe Bush's nose in his own vomitous crap.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Any general officer dismissed by this vomitous administration

for telling the truth and trying to stop them would do... how bout Shinseki? Now talk about rubbing it in.

Oh and Shinseki IS a dem... I'm not sure about Fallon

[Ytzak]

7. Shinseki would be a good choice. He would bolster Obama's...

national security credentials. (I know most of the people here don't worry about that stuff but it would help with moderate voters who are still sipping a little of the coolaid.) Becasue to quote one of the stories about Adalai Stevenson...
"“During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai E. Stevenson: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!". Stevenson called back "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"”"

[nadinbrzezinski]

That is a good story

and I wish some folks did get it

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. That is a good story

and I wish some folks did get it

[cali]

9. Both are centrists in some ways. Neither is quite conservative.

though Hillary has made conservative noises about foreign policy. And elections, particularly primary elections, are always, always more about personality than policy. And though Obama is shifting into GE mode, he's also still playing on the primary field. And he will be until he reaches 2024. That said, I agree that he'll be the nominee.