Now that Hillary is behind in pledged and super d's, is she banking it all on seating FLA/MI?

[RiverStone]

What other card does she have left to play?

I can't fathom the rules committee tinkering with the system to over ride the mandate set by Howard Dean and the DNC. Seating delegates as is based on illegitimate contests would be paramount to Mutiny on the Bounty.

It looks like Obama will have to carry the contests through to the end of the primary calender. At that point, the rules committee will come up with a compromise that will represent FLA/MI voters with some delegates, but not in enough numbers to effect the outcome of Obama's delegate lead.

Do you see any other viable ending (minus Hillary withdrawing before June 3rd)?

[Kittycat]

1. The committee will not seat MI as is.

Even one of her own supporters on the committee spoke out against that the other day (caught it on thePage, I believe). I think they'll accept the MI Undecided Compromise of 69-59, even though that still isn't fair to Obama.

[AtomicKitten]

2. If rules are bent, FL and MI will receive, at best, 1/2 delegate status as a penalty.

And she still loses.

[Oceansaway]

3. the Joker ?.......

:rofl:

[MercutioATC]

4. Now that she's this far behind, FL and MI can't change things.

Let's stop responding to Clinton and deal with McCain.

Yes, I know she's still in it with her knives out, but there's nothing she can do. She's no threat.

It's not about being "gracious", it's about being practical. Clinton is no longer the opponent. The only way she harms the GE from this point on is if we continue to recognize her.

[RiverStone]

I agree, but unfortunately...

We may be frustrated tomorrow night with how the corporate media spins West Virginia. Some of the networks want to maintain the illusion that this is still a real contest.

[MercutioATC]

6. It. Doesn't. Matter.

Let them spin. Clinton still has absolutely no path to the nomination.

Of course they want to maintain the illusion of a race. A race is newsworthy. A race gets ratings. Ratings mean money.

...but we're smarter than that.

The reason the media has the control it does is that we allow it...but we don't have to.


Ignore the spin tomorrow. Rest comfortably in the fact that it's just spin and a nominee isn't chosen on spin, but numbers.

We need to concentrate on McCain now. Why waste the effort on somebody who isn't even a player?

[wileedog]

5. What she really wants is the popular vote totals as is for those states

The delegates can't help her now, she could care less how they are split or counted.

But if she gets those pop votes to count (including a zero for Obama in MI) and then pounds him in WV, KY and Puerto Rico, she can get the "popular vote" - at least her team's faulty definition of it.

Then she can start whining about that until the convention. Maybe even a lawsuit or two.

[RiverStone]

8. With Obama winning Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota

No rational person would ever count MI with Obama at zero.

FLA is a stretch, but I thought even with FLA - it would still be a very unlikely uphill climb for Hillary to make up a 700K vote deficit?

And if it was damn close, would there even be a compelling enough reason to totally upset the donkey cart and throw out the results from the caucus states (where a true popular vote total is impossible)?

I don't think so.

[wileedog]

9. Neither do I

But that is what she has left. It is why Terry and Bill have been spreading the Popular vote myth with every other word out of their mouths the last few days.

They need to seat MI as is not for delegates which are now irrelevant and they know it, but for the illegal pop vote totals.

[bobbert]

10. That would also include disenfranchising caucus states

to calculate popular vote. She doesn't want to disenfranchise anybody, or only disenfranchise states which don't count according to her?

[mdmc]

7. She must be hoping that Obama Spitzers out

:shrug:

[NotThisTime]

12. He's going to win OR by as much as she wins KY by - popular vote wise

There's no way for her to catch up, they will never allocate 0 votes for Michigan to Obama, never will happen. That's even IF popular vote was important at this point.

[anonymous171]

11. That and her popular vote lie.

[Imagevision]

13. Hillary signed the pledge not to count FlA/MI - can we just move on for Chrice sakes!!

[RiverStone]

14. We can, she can't (or won't)

Until the last vote has been cast, regardless what it does to Obama's campaign.

Maybe it won't matter too much, lets just see how she spins tomorrow night.