Uncommitted TN super delegate is a "dead man" to Hillary

[rox63]

Way to attract those SD's, Hill. :eyes:

~snip~

In a front-page story in Thursday's edition of The Hill, the newspaper covering Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S. Rep. Lincoln Davis, D-Tenn., was reported to have turned down an invitation to meet with presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton.

Davis was among a group of so-far-uncommitted Democratic "superdelegates" who were approached in the last day or so by the Clinton camp in the hopes of garnering their endorsement.

"He says that's not true," U.S. Rep. Jim Cooper, D-Tenn., told The Daily News about Davis' refusal to meet with Clinton. "But that's on the front page of The Hill. I told him he might as well go ahead and endorse Barack (Obama), because once Hillary sees that he's a dead man anyway."

~snip~

"She brought in a camera to record the meeting. And she has not released the memos on this meeting. She immediately declared war on me. I warned her we didn't even have the votes (for her bill) in our subcommittee. She said, 'We're going to (politically) cut your legs off.' I've never gotten such a cold reception as I got from her."

~snip~

Read the whole thing here: http://www.memphisdailynews.com/editorial/Article.aspx?id=37041

[dascientist]

1. FIRST

[olkaz]

2. what?

Seriously? We're going to start doing this now?

[Connie_Corleone]

4. Uh, we don't do that here.

[babylonsister]

7. What does that even mean, Connie?

I'm so out-of-the-loop! What'd I miss?

[mohc]

10. Assuming you are indeed out of the loop

On other message boards that are even less civil and mature than this one (yes they do exist), morons try to be the first to respond to a post, typically simply exclaiming one of "FIRST", "FRIST", "FIRTS", or some other misspelling.

Somehow DU has avoided that.

[babylonsister]

11. That's not even addressing what was in the OP.

How silly.
Thanks for the explanation. I somehow avoided those sites. :P

[juno jones]

26. I have seen a couple of people here who rush to be first, but they do stay

somewhat on topic (such as it is). Most of those are now (funny coincidence) in my ignore pile.

[babylonsister]

30. Color me stupid, but I don't

see the benefit of being first, especially if you have nothing to add. Maybe so they can give their keyboard a workout? :shrug:

[yodermon]

53. on firedoglake they used to say "Fitz!"

a much funnier & appropriate take on the practice.

[BlooInBloo]

16. Browse the comments at, e.g., Atrios' blog.

[juno jones]

25. Grow up. n/t

[Jamastiene]

39. What is that supposed to mean?

Oh, we don't do that here. Here, we snipe at each other and rip each other apart. Unless you are willing to come to the table with snark here in GD: P, might wanna stay at the kiddies' table and watch and learn.

Btw, welcome to DU. :hi: :smoke:

[NJmaverick]

3. Way to burn your bridges Hillary, I can't feel sorry for you though

You are in the process of earning your pariah status.

[Doityourself]

5. Dang

"I respect Hillary supporters because they haven't had the chance to get to know her like I have. She does not have the political skills of her husband. Or Barack. You need somebody who can bring people together.


Ouch!

[FlaGranny]

8. It should be pretty obvious

that Hillary doesn't have the skills to bring about compromise or else, like the man said, we would have universal health care now. Her blundering on that issue killed universal health care. I remember being pretty angry about it at the time. She wasn't willing listen.

[yardwork]

57. Her political tone deafness cost us universal health care.

Cooper went on to say, "...She criticized my health care bill because it wouldn't achieve universal coverage until 1998. Well, today we'd be celebrating the 10th anniversary of having every American with insurance.""

[depakid]

6. If this is true- it shows why Hillary is perfect for Senate Majority leader

No more milquetoast Daschles and cowardly lion Reids. If you cross over and vote with the far right- expect there to be consequences.

That's how Lyndon Johnson would have played it....

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

9. Yes, the Leader should be an alienator

concensus-splitter.

If you break and vote for the far left on an issue, there will also be consequences. The problem is, the consequence may be permanent excommunication, so the majority of "in" senators will soon become a minority. The senate will become a three party system: Republicans, Friends of Clinton, and Enemies of Clinton.

[depakid]

12. No, A leader needs to install some discipline in the party

and deal with the multitudes of DINO's who CONSISTENTLY cross over and vote with the far right.

Hell, Harry Reid himself crossed over on the Bankruptcy Bill.

Ask yourself why Republicans don't do that (no matter what their inclinations might be on any given bill).

Now, ask yourself why they've won DAMN NEAR EVERY SINGLE POLICY FIGHT over legislation and confirmed DAMN NEAR EVERY EXTREMIST NOMINEE over the past 7 years.

Yep- that's consensus building in action alright.

[Citizen_Penn]

15. I think you would enjoy

the Bath Party.

Saddam Hussein really knew how to 'INSTILL DISCIPLINE".

Suggestion: read what you type before you post it.

[depakid]

24. Hardly- but I would enjoy seeing the Dems stop rolling over repeatedly

and I'd like to see the party as a whole exude something other than cowardice and complicity in Congress.

Actually, what I enjoy much more are parliamentary systems such as I've seen in action in Australia. None of the bullshit DINO coddling if you cross the ALP (Australian Labor Party).

Cross over and vote with the Liberals (their version of Ben Nelson type conservative Dems)- and they'll toss your butt right out....

[Pawel K]

49. Why the far right has won every policy fight for the last 7 years? The answer is easy...

because Hillary constantly voted with them.

Yeah, she would make a great democratic leader. We totally need more DLC to give us some backbone. :eyes:

[TahitiNut]

50. That's the job of the Whip. The Majority Leader identifies the consensus position, ...

... controls the floor schedule, coordinates with the Minority Leader, represents the caucus, etc. The Majority Whip herds the cats and twists arms.

[Citizen_Penn]

13. Respectfully disagree with your assessment of my fellow

Texan, LBJ.

I'll grant that LBJ was an enforcer, rounding up the troops on issues and dealing tough love when he felt the ranks weren't following.

The difference is that he remain well liked by his peers - and listened to other opinions.

I have found absolutely no evidence that Hillary Clinton is capable of participating in or building a consensus.

From her failed attempts in Arkansas as first lady, failed attempts in Washington as first lady, failed attempts as Senator, failed nomination battle...

she's demonstrated a headstrong, narcisstic, bullying personality that is ineffective.

Leaders have charisma.

She doesn't.

[roguevalley]

54. I hope the senate shuns her sorry ass. how do you do this to others

just because they don't agree with you? What a total sow she is becoming.

[Citizen_Penn]

55. well, wouldn't that be becoming the monster?

Better to shine the light on her actions, in my opinion.

Let the people decide.

With full knowledge of her behavior.

Give that, I have confidence they'll do the right thing.

[marshall]

31. I agree, this shows her strength as being stone cold

If she's fighting for something she sets emotions and niceties aside and goes for the jugular with a cold steely intensity. That is her hallmark.

[Tatiana]

36. I agree. We need a leader with an iron fist. She would be a good majority leader, IMO.

I also think Dodd and Durbin would be good leaders. We need someone from a safe state who is not in danger of losing their seat who can really install some party discipline.

[LizW]

14. Subject line of the OP is a lie

The "dead man" statement was not made by Hillary, it was a threat made by Jim Cooper, the head of Obama's Tennessee campaign, to Lincoln Davis.

I don't get why, if Obama is The Winner, his campaign and supporters are still smearing Hillary. If you have to lie to win, you aren't really winning.

[rox63]

17. I didn't infer that it was a quote from Hillary

It is a quote from the article, hence the quotation marks in the subject line. Testy much?

[Maribelle]

23. I took it that you were pretending that it was a quote from Hillary.

[LizW]

56. It is misleading.

But you meant for it to be, right? Look at the responses you got. You must be so proud.

[Yael]

18. Now that her political career is over, the REAL stories start coming out

[Maribelle]

20. Hillary's career is not hardly over.

But do please continue with your attempt at deception. Many are loving the way it shows off how well the low areas are covered by Obama followers.

[NorthCarolina]

46. Her career MAY be over if she has to rely on the black vote to maintain her Senate seat

eom

[Yael]

51. I will pull out every resource I can manage

to help support whatever Dem challenger goes up against her for her senate seat.

I don't do dirty politics and the faster we get dirty politicians out of office, the better off this country will be.

[Maribelle]

19. Quoting an Obama follower's biased pomp to bash Hillary is oh so typical

of the blogcult - - finding it here in DU-P, however, is merely your typical Obama attempt at deception.

[here_is_to_hope]

21. Does you need a binky? n/t

[Maribelle]

28. Tisk tisk - - I don't think your mummy allows you to share it.

[rox63]

22. It's from the Memphis Daily News

If you have a problem with it, complain to them. :eyes:

[Maribelle]

27. It was a biased statement from an Obama follower nonetheless.

Sorry if the truth is so apparently disconcerting to Obama's followers. What else is new around here?

[rox63]

29. It was a statemetn from a super delegate

The folks that Hillary is supposedly trying attract.

[Maribelle]

33. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. It was a statement from one committed to Obama.

A known Hillary hater and Obama follower.

[Lerkfish]

48. "A known Hillary hater and Obama follower."

yup, that pretty much backs up the point of the article: support hillary or you are dead to them.

[BlooInBloo]

32. That's the love that Clinton inspires.

[Maribelle]

34. That, or that's the hate Obama inspires, which drives his followers to make such outrageous lies.

[BlooInBloo]

35. What *exactly* is the lie?

[Maribelle]

37. A lie the right wing hate mongers have always used against the Clinton's vis-à-vis Vince Foster

This is filthy old-school politics, the nature of which Obama should rapidly condemn. I won't hold my breath, however. Neither should you.

That's the Chicago Way.

[BlooInBloo]

40. Still waiting for *exactly* what the lie is.

[Maribelle]

41. The Obama follower said re the other delegate ' he's a dead man anyway'

[BlooInBloo]

42. And the lie is?

[BlooInBloo]

43. Oh wait a minute! Are you pretending that was meant *literally*??? LOLOL!!!

EDIT: Like Clinton would literally put a hit out on him? Or shoot him herself, since she's such a gun fan?

Talk about lying.

[rox63]

44. The folks involved are from Tennessee, not Chicago

And one of them was an uncommitted super delegate the Clinton campaign was trying to recruit. People who get treated badly by a candidate are unlikely to get their endorsement later on. And it sounds like a lot of folks have been treated poorly by Hillary in the past.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

38. Killed by a bus?

[rox63]

45. A bus that he was apparently thrown under by HRC several years earlier n/t

[Bucky]

47. Maybe "cut your legs off" is just one of those expressions, like "break a leg" that only sound bad.

"Cut your legs off" probably is politics-talk meaning "you'll be flying sky high" or something.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

[ima_sinnic]

52. she is a ghastly human being. I am so glad her treachery is coming back to bite her in the butt

she represents all the backstabbers I had to work with over the years in various corporate scenes -- it gives me great vicarious pleasure to see the Queen Bee, who represents all of those scum, get her comeuppance. There is justice in the world.