So When Do We Release The Ignored....

[SoFlaJet]

from their cells? I have about 10 of them in there-(one didn't make it in my personal GITMO-tombstoned) I know they're still alive in there because they show up with their orange jumpsuits (pants suits) with the name ignored on their backs every once in a while. When will it be safe? Will it be like the 1980 Mariel Boatlift here?

[NJmaverick]

1. I have already released those that survived. The battle is over, time to focus on the war

[SoFlaJet]

2. I just put a new one in there today

he kept referring to Obama supporters as brown shirted nazis-I think that one still needs some interrogating (waterboarding?) did I write that or just think it?

[PoliticalAmazon]

25. Here's a thought: Those on your ignore list may relish not being bothered by you. ...

I think you should give them the option of remaining on your ignored list.

[Binka]

74. It Is Why I Haven't Put You On Ignore

You might like it. Nah I gotta see what you are doing. Have a blessed day Amazon. :hi:

[PoliticalAmazon]

172. Thanks, Binka. n/t

[donheld]

165. It doesn't work that way

The ignored are still have to see those that have them on ignore.

[nxylas]

99. Me too

Clinton and her supporters on DU are merely an annoyance now, and the time will soon come for the latter to get behind the nominee or leave. So I figure I can put up with them for another couple of weeks, and have removed all the non-tombstoned posters from my ignore list.

[L0oniX]

103. 17 of 55 have been executed, 4 have life sentences and the rest are up for parole.

[Hepburn]

137. ....

...LOL...:rofl:

[Adelante]

3. I did it yesterday, thanks to Lerkfish's suggestion

I have to admit, though, it's already filling back up again.

[K Gardner]

4. They're still here and more obnoxious than ever. I've had to re-engage my list.

[SoFlaJet]

5. OK so good thing then

that I didn't unlock the cells...I got a few doozies in there baby-the kind that will raise your blood pressure instantly

[Eurobabe]

78. I'll release the incarcerated when it's official and she's out

No need to subject myself to their idiocy until then.

[Yael]

6. I will parole 3 of the 5 today

The other 2 can see the light of my monitor when hell freezes over. I don't even know who those 2 support and don't care. People who call people "idiots" and "morons" with EVERY SINGLE POST have nothing of value to contribute on ANY topic (and yes, they know who they are as I lament them every time we go to level 2).

[featherman]

7. Not yet... I had 7... three got TS'ed... crazily I just added another the other day

Maybe after May 20th I'm thinking

[murielm99]

8. I have quite a few Obama supporters on ignore.

I don't feel the need to post asinine OPs about them.

[SoFlaJet]

10. well I obviously haven't reached YOUR level

spiritually muriel...maybe in my next life

[LowerManhattanite]

27. And with that,

you've exposed one of mine! :)

[SoFlaJet]

29. I always wonder too

which one of the POWs is responding when I see IGNORED too LM

[Shae]

42. I do too. . .

when they're in quite a long conversation with someone, I would sometimes log out just to see who it is. :7

I had 4 on ignore and took them all off last Wednesday. I've only seen 2 of them posting since then, but it was enough to make me think about putting them back on.

[Pamela Troy]

45. I don't get this.

Why do you put people on ignore? What are you so afraid of?

[Rockholm]

53. Take a wild guess.

[quakerboy]

55. For me, there occasionaly posters who

Do nothing but insult others. I have never seen them make a point, ever. Not a single one. I never had a chance to agree or disagree with them on a topic, because their entire existance here is focused on being as much a jerk with as little substance as is humanely possible.

So its not fear, its a matter of why deal with absolutely pointless annoyance? I can deal with disagreement. But why waste the time on someone who won't even go to the trouble of disagreeing?

[Pamela Troy]

56. But who's forcing you to read them?

[quakerboy]

59. As I read through things

I tend to read them all. And I read the message long before I consider which anonymous user it comes from. It is the very rare person who makes it onto my ignore list, but there are, unfortunantly, people here who add absolutely nothing to the conversation. I don't care who they support, what the believe, etc. They add NOTHING, and so I see no reason not to ignore them.

Again, Fear and bravery have nothing to do with it.

[Pamela Troy]

102. I never said anything about "bravery."

The messages on this board tend to be pretty short and can be scrolled past in an instant. Barring physical threats, I don't get the point of "turning off the mic." If you don't like what somebody says, don't bother replying.

Assuming that someone will always "add NOTHING" is a pretty gross presumption. There have been people I've made it my policy not to reply to, but I still read them, and every now and then, they make a point worth considering.

[quakerboy]

164. I have people like that as well

But there are some that fall well beyond that category, into the "nothing but shit here". Those are the ones I ignore. Why bother having shit show up on my screen? It is the same reason I don't watch most horror movies. I don't feel any need to fill my mind with any of what they contain, it benefits neither me or them to do so. I reserve it for a few who demonstrate over the long haul they will add nothing, at all, ever. And I see nothing wrong with doing so.


As to bravery, you asked what we feared. Overcoming fear would seem to involve bravery. But even just leaving it at fear and not drawing out any logical conclusions, I still resent the implication that it is an act of fear to use the ignore tool. That argument is simply not true.

[Moochy]

98. "forcing to read"

Wow what a surprise, others don't conform to your "high" standards of not ignoring anyone. When I decide that a poster is just here to enrage du'ers, they get ignored. Why should I not take advantage of the tools that DU has provided to help avoid the disruptors?

Alert, Ignore, Check for tombstone.

[Pamela Troy]

105. Because too frequently -- as the first message in this thread strongly

implies -- the "tool" is being primarily used as a method of insult. Is a discussion not going the way you'd like it to? Declare yourself "insulted," clap your hands over your ears, and start humming loudly.

And when people here start boasting to each other about the size of their "ignore" list, and describe the posters they're ignoring as Gitmo prisoners, it becomes grotesque.

I've never understood why some people consider an unwillingness to listen or read a virtue.

[Moochy]

108. There are plenty of loathesome people on my ignore list

I recently reduced it to zero, then was reminded of how repulsive those who managed to make my old list have become, and was forced to re-build my list, or break DU rules.

I have an "unwillingness to read or listen" to those who are just here to insult, enrage, and piss off democrats.

What is grotesque to me is the game we are forced to play in accommodating the DLC/Conservative wing of the party. The Big Tent or Circus Maximus?

[Pamela Troy]

111. See, this is what I mean -- "loathsome people." "Repulsive."

You're using the ignore function as a way of insulting people.

[Moochy]

112. Accurate description of the people on my list, and their actions are repulsive

Yes my real intent is to insult all the people I'm ignoring....

by not giving them the satisfaction of a reply.... Confused?

I will readily admit that these people are deserving of insults. There is no point in dialog with the disruptors on my list. They are assholes.

[Pamela Troy]

117. People who throw out insults like this are always convinced they're "accurate."

No, I'm not confused, but I think you might be. You're not depriving anyone of "the satisfaction of a reply." The ignored are perfectly free to reply and quite frequently do. The people who end up looking silly in such threads are the ones who, like Bill O'Reilly, "argue" by yelling "shut up" and turning off the mic. In fact, they look a bit sillier than O'Reilly because everyone else is still free to "hear" the response and watch the ignorer hold their hands over their ears and squeeze their eyes shut.

[Moochy]

120. Keep championing the cause of the disruptor

Recursive, Self-Evident Subthread not withstanding.

"The ignored are perfectly free" Good for you, er i mean them.

"Who like Bill O'Reilly" Oh Noes, Pamela Troy compared me to Bill O'Reilly. :rofl:

"In fact they look a bit sillier than O'Reilly"
I am guessing that you have plenty of experience in gazing on that image.

Oh Pamela Troy, your smug self righteous superiority has won the day!
Come all ye trolls, and pollute the discourse! Pamela Troy has proven that ignore is a tool of the right wing!

[Pamela Troy]

129. Well, It's certainly the right wing who most frequently tries to shut

down debate, and who seems to be the most afraid of actually hearing opposing viewpoints. Some of the messages here on DU, however indicate that behavior is not something exclusively confined to the right.

Are you trying to prove my point?

[Moochy]

130. you mischaraterize the postings of the ignoreds on my list as debate

I'm trying to prove your point, that all posters come to du with an honest heart open to debate, and only bill o'reilly democrats use the ignore function...

hypocrite much?

[Pamela Troy]

133. You seem to define disagreement as "disruption."

Given that I don't stick people on ignore lists and call them names, I don't see where the hypocrisy lies.

[Moochy]

134. Disagreement is fine, Disruptors are not

Disruptors come to DU. I have plenty of tombstoned ignoreds to prove it.

You seem to want to either deny that people come here with the intent to disrupt, or proudly claim the moral high ground as you boast about not ignoring anyone including disruptors. Which is it?

I called you on your hypocrisy regarding comparing du'ers who use ignore to Bill O'Reilly. You later clarified that to mean people who use ignore lists as a way to insult fellow DU'ers.

[Pamela Troy]

146. Of course people come here to disrupt. I don't bother replying to them.

I'm not, however, so upset by them that I am unable to stand reading them.

This is not a boast. I consider refraining from "ignore" a matter of being on level, not higher ground.

You accused me of hypocrisy where none existed. Were you unable to understand the clarification I posted?

Do you understand what "clarification" means?

[Moochy]

147. You clarified, I was not entirely convinced

I'm interested in the common ground, not in harping on where your broadbrush strokes went outside of the lines.

It still sounds like a boast when you state that you are on level ground in refraining from using the ignore feature. What, are users of ignore on something other than level ground?

( on edit: grammar )

[Pamela Troy]

159. I suspect you don't want to be convinced.

No, users of ignore, too frequently, are not on "level ground." They are people too unsure of their own viewpoint to debate reasonably, so they shut off debate using the "ignore" feature.

And I'm sorry, but both the OP of this thread and many of the replies I've seen have bolstered this perception of mine rather than refuted it.

[Moochy]

160. The Rashomon Effect In Action

We both walk away from this thread more convinced.

[Hepburn]

139. Ditto...

...that works for me.

[Shae]

62. I'm not afraid of anything. . .

I don't know exactly how long I've been on DU, but I know I was here 9/11/2001, because I remember reading the posts that morning. In all that time, I can count the people I have had on ignore on one hand, but. . .

I had read post after post after post from the people on my list, decided they had nothing constructive to say, were not interested in listening to what anyone else had to say, they just in snark out remarks and run away.
Whenever asked to back up anything they say, these people will disappear, only to show up on another thread with the same crap.
I get annoyed with these people and feel that they are really a waste of my time.

So it's annoyance more than fear.

[Pamela Troy]

109. I've been posting pieces here since 2001.

I've been posting to online discussion boards since 1983.

During that time I've encountered my share of posters who, as you say, seem to have "nothing constructive to say, were not interested in listening to what anyone else had to say, they just in snark out remarks and run away." Generally I don't reply to them. But I see no reason to put them on "ignore." People who do what you describe do not post long messages. They generally type out a line or two and then scuttle away. Scrolling past them takes one half second.

"Ignore" on this board seems to be too frequently used as an insult. I've seen it used as Bill O'Reilly uses his "off mic" button, not when someone is being personally insulting, but when a discussion is not going the way the ignorer would like it to, when the ignorer is asked to back up what they say, when another poster has raised a point that makes ignorer uncomfortable, etc., etc., etc.

And when we've reached the point where people are practically boasting about the number of posters on their "ignore" list and talking about them as if they were gitmo prisoners... Sorry, but that indicates something very akin to fear of another POV.

[burythehatchet]

148. What leads you to assume the decision is based on fear?

Say you go to a party and 50 of the biggest assholes in town crash the party. You gonna play twister with them?

[Pamela Troy]

161. Comparing putting people on "ignore" to putting them in prison

strongly implies an element of fear.

No, I wouldn't play twister with asshole party crashers. Many of the people being "ignored" on DU, however are not the equivalent of "party crashers." Unlike people who arrive uninvited to a private party, have as much right to be here as you do.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

84. You don't have to log out to see which Ignored is raising a ruckus.

Just go to the top of the page and click "printer friendly format." That format will reveal all posts, including the ignored ones, in case you are curious. It's like opening the trapdoor just a little bit without letting the prisoners out.

[Binka]

83. Do A Google Search On Ogle Co Il The Place In Her Sign

It is about 95% white. Does that shock you? I didn't think so. You are a sharp cookie. :hi:

[MindMatter]

9. I'm ignoring about 10 a day and don't plan to release them at all

Originally I was ignoring the most obvious freepers. Then I moved onto the ones who seemed to be genuine Hillary supports, but just out of their minds. Now anybody who still wants to stir up any shit about Obama gets on my ignore list. I guess I have about 60 now.

I highly recommend it. What is left is a more useful site with plenty of challenging points of view. I have never ignored a person who was making an important point that I just happened to disagree with.

[SoFlaJet]

11. I can't believe I ever had to do it here in the first place

I've been a member here since right after the 2000 coup (different name then)

[MindMatter]

13. The only way I will release one is

if I see somebody reply to an ignored post in a way that indicates the ignored party is carrying out a civilized, respectful, thoughtful, worthwhile conversation. I've been looking and I haven't seen one of those yet, so I think I have the right people on ignore.

[Lisa0825]

12. I still see them posting all kinds of bullshit when DU Defcon goes up,

so I don't see myself clearing my list for the near future. Maybe after Clinton finally concedes, they'll start to settle down.

[DemVet]

75. Got tired...

...of them kicking your ass in debates, huh?

[Lisa0825]

79. No I got tired of immature babies tossing words like cult and idiot around.

When one is too dumb too debate (or has no leg to stand on), the easy way out is to insult.

[DemVet]

95. You're correct...

and it comes from both sides...sadly. Anyway, I didn't mean any offense by my "kicking your ass" post. A wrong choice of words.

Peace.

[Lisa0825]

96. Thank you, and

for the record, I alert on more anti-Clinton posts than anti-Obama ones. I don't like it coming from either side.

[mythyc]

14. 2025

that's when i clear my ignore list, except for one of them....

[Toucano]

15. I still have them in there from the 2004 primary!

I just can't run the risk of letting them out! LOL!

[SoFlaJet]

16. damn you're as bad as the Bush administration Toucano

you've had DUers in your own personal GITMO since 2004? On second thought with the way some of them talk about John Kerry STILL, I can see it...

[Toucano]

17. It's a touch of Stockholm Syndrome, I'm afraid.

I only put people on ignore when they are impervious to logic and reason...or my idea of logic and reason. LOL!

[SoFlaJet]

18. I see

so they're either WITH you or against you...where have I heard THAT one before?

[Pamela Troy]

19. I've always considered it pretty cowardly to put people in the "ignored"

category.

Your message and the attitude it reflects does not alter that perception.

[Erin Elizabeth]

50. Why?

What is inherently "courageous" about reading the posts of people whose opinion you aren't interested in?

How is that so brave?

(Because if putting people on ignore is "cowardly" then not putting anyone on ignore must make you a strong brave courageous person, right? LOL.)

It's a tool. Simple as that. It actually stops a lot of board strife. I'm of the mind that people should use it INSTEAD of engaging with people they know they might get ugly with.

[Pamela Troy]

52. Well, first of all, nobody is forcing anyone here to read their

opinions. In the many, many years I've been online on different discussion boards, I've never had an "ignore" list. Why would I want one? They generally seem to be used to cut off discussion when someone starts to feel the discussion isn't going the way they'd like it to. Hence the sense I have that there's an element of cowardice.

And no, the fact that I consider putting someone on ignore "cowardly" doesn't mean I consider refraining from an ignore list "brave." I consider refraining from an ignore list part of that normal behavior between cowardly and brave.

The original message in this thread reveals a pretty weird attitude, one that goes beyond using the "ignore" feature merely as a tool. This person seems to fantasize about it as a sort of punishment, seems to imagine the people he's ignoring languishing in a prison cell, gnashing their teeth and wailing as they beat against the walls. And the many replies he's gotten seem to echo it. I mean, for pity's sake, asking when it will be "safe" to "let them out?" As if they were a menace?

Here's a radical thought -- how about "engaging" with people on a rational and adult level? No name-calling. No screaming. No "lalala-I-can't HEARRRR YOUUUUUU!"

Can we do that? Or has Rush Limbaugh and Free Republic made such deep inroads into our national psyche that it's beyond our ability?

[quakerboy]

57. It is a waste of time to engage

those who have no intent of engaging you on that level. If they have a point, even if it was expressed in a childish way, ok. But if their entire purpose is to shout insults, then what gain is there for anyone in that?

[Pamela Troy]

58. But again, who's forcing you to reply?

[quakerboy]

60. You indicated that we should.

To quote you, "Here's a radical thought -- how about "engaging" with people on a rational and adult level?"

I was answering that question. What gain is there in "engaging" someone with no intent to meet you on that field of discussion, someone who's entire purpose here is to insult and demean? Personally, I don't see any.

[Pamela Troy]

100. That was meant to refer to cases where you did choose to reply, not

as a suggestion that you reply to every person who posts to you. There are plenty of people, and plenty of messages I've not responded to. But I've never refused to read anyone, or to allow their messages to be visible to me. I just don't see the point.

After years of being online, I've come to the conclusion that the "ignore" function is too frequently used to shut down debate or -- as the original message in this thread indicates -- to "punish" people or insult them.

[WillyToad]

106. Ignore is for people with an easily bruised worldview

People confident about their beliefs don't have to hide from people who disagree with them. Back in my political chatroom days, pretty much all of the Republicans in the room ignored (cowered away from) anybody who disagreed with them. They believe that democracy is some sort of one sided, everyone thinks the same way, pack of hyenas mentality, self affirmation club.

[Moochy]

The Ignore Feature Pisses off

Du'ers with low post-counts.

Just an observation.

:yoiks:

[Pamela Troy]

125. ??? This doesn't even make sense.

[Moochy]

126. Doesnt it?

I'm implying that those with low post counts seem to have a vested interest in having their posts read combined with a limited amount of time to spend here at the DU, as evinced by their low post counts.

An abstract example from this thread:

A Poster with < 500 posts makes an impassioned case that anyone who ignores people are like O'Reilly.

One can assume that being ignored makes that OP's words carry less weight.

[Pamela Troy]

131. You assume too much.

Sorry, but while I care about DU and have been posting articles here since 2001, it's not my only venue. I do, however, have enough of an attachment to Democratic Underground to be sorry to see what's been happening on its boards for the past few months.

And no, while I don't like the "ignore" function and don't understand its appeal, I don't think "anyone who ignores people are like O'Reilly."

I think posters who combine ignoring people with throwing out personal insults are like O'Reilly.

[Moochy]

132. Thanks for the clarification

We can agree to disagree on the ignore function's usefulness. I use it to to block those whose intent I have judged to be disruptive, and those to whom I can not reply to without breaking DU rules.

Those people exist, and quite frankly I don't know why anyone would want to willingly read posts started by them.

[Pamela Troy]

136. I have no trouble replying to anyone without breaking the rules.

I read your posts. If they come up again in a thread I am interested in, I will continued to read them, along with everyone else's.

I don't know why anyone confident about their own viewpoint would willingly shut their eyes and stop up their ears.

[Moochy]

145. Its more akin to tuning out commercials

My parents do it very well while watching TV. (or so they claim)

I can't do it, i have to use Tivo to skip over the commercials. Ignored is the equivalent to the 30 second fast-forward feature for DU. :)

You are better than I, and that explains your low post count... :evilgrin: . You *can* resist the urge to make a rule-breaking call-out of a troll-in-democrats clothing spouting republican-lite Hannity talking points, making Hillary or Obama supporters look bad.

Theres a difference between people "confident about their own viewpoint" and those not willing to entertain the disruptors. That line can not be drawn for everyone by you, it must be drawn by each user.

Cheers

[Pamela Troy]

153. Can't you skip over replies you aren't interested in just as easily using

the scroll bar?

If you use ignore to prevent yourself from behaving badly, that's another matter and something to think about. The problem is, that doesn't seem to be how the ignored function is being used. I keep seeing people invoking the "ignore" as a attempted slap in the face of the person they're ignoring, and then following up in the same thread by ostentatiously badmouthing the ignored to other posters. This does not indicate a desire to AVOID bad and insulting behavior.

[Moochy]

158. But fast forwarding over a commercial ...you still get the imagery

And likewise skimming over a disruptors post, you still get to feel the thinly veiled hatespeech, the encoded racism.

No thanks, I'll let you stick with the scroll bar.

I'll stick with my ignore list.

How's this though, I readily concede that many *do* use the ignore list just as you described.

[Pamela Troy]

163. Thank you.

[burythehatchet]

149. I hope pop psychology is not your regular job.

[quakerboy]

166. Whereas

I put all the advertising bots and the ever present "wanna cyber" types on ignore in chats. They filled the screen, but added nothing.

[Erin Elizabeth]

170. LOL, ok tough guy.

Or it could possibly be for people who don't want to waste time with time-wasting people (people who just post the same things over and over, people who post nothing but insults, etc).

Saves a heck of a lot of time, IMO. Has nothing whatsoever to do with any bruised worldview, LOL!

[SoFlaJet]

118. where do you see this: "this thread indicates -- to "punish" people or insult them."

in my OP? And don't EVEN use an obvious joke for reference Pam

So When Do We Release The Ignored....
from their cells? I have about 10 of them in there-(one didn't make it in my personal GITMO-tombstoned) I know they're still alive in there because they show up with their orange jumpsuits (pants suits) with the name ignored on their backs every once in a while. When will it be safe? Will it be like the 1980 Mariel Boatlift here?

[Pamela Troy]

142. Picturing the people you've put on "ignore" as languishing in

Gitmo cells strongly implies punishment.

[Erin Elizabeth]

169. No one. But putting someone on ignore who clearly

needs to be on ignore sure saves a lot of time and trouble. When I'm scrolling through the actual responses to a post (not just the list of responses) ignored people's posts are literally not even on my screen. I can just read right through it and respond to those I know can engage in normal conversation.

[Erin Elizabeth]

61. I don't scream. I don't name call. I don't yell LA LA LA LA.

And I didn't address the OP at all, just your post.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with using ignore. It's there for a reason. And I bet mods sometimes wish people would use it when they don't!

[DemVet]

76. Ignore...

...is for those with weak debating and reasoning skills. That's what ignore is for.

[stevenleser]

85. I just plonked the starter of this subthread, its a classic instance of why I put someone on ignore

The OP raised an issue, the person I just ignored didnt address said issue, they just criticized the OP and anyone who uses ignore, people justified why they use ignore, and this person ignored their comments and reasoning and just posted the same comment again without any acknowledgement or attempt to refute people's responses.

This is not someone who is engaging in dialogue. If you describe that kind of behavior to someone familiar with basic netiquette who is otherwise unfamiliar with DU, they would say that someone who comes into a discussion thread, does not address an OP and ignores any responses that contradict them and keeps posting the same thing over and over is a troll and a disruptor.

[SoFlaJet]

89. ironically

this thread is turning into a great lesson as to WHY we should STILL use the ignore feature...strange days indeed

[stevenleser]

91. So true...

... I never used ignore before around Feb 8th. I think I now have over 100 people on ignore. I will definitely keep everyone on ignore until Skinner initiates his transition week and we are all one party again.

Like one of the responders to your OP said, if I REALLY feel like reading the posts some on my list have made, I can logout and check them out. I 've done so a few times and it convinces me that I did the right thing.

[Pamela Troy]

114. I suspect you put people on "ignore" when they say things you disagree with.

At least that's how this reads.

[Moochy]

115. That poster protesteth too much about the ignore function

The shibboleth of the disruptor: "Only Cowards use ignore"

[Egnever]

116. really?

I thought they were being pretty reasonable.

[Erin Elizabeth]

167. Yep, good points.

[Pamela Troy]

110. But my post was about the OP.

As I said, "ignore" far too often is used here as an insult rather than a response to insult. It's a way of insulating ourselves, not from personal abuse, but from questions and observations that make us uncomfortable.

[SoFlaJet]

121. once again you're wrong

it was a fairly innocent original post with a bit of dark comedy-that MOST who read it...GOT...unfortunately a lot of Hill supporters are a little lacking in that department right now as evidenced by your stern attitude Ms Troy

[Pamela Troy]

138. About what my post was about? I don't think so.

The OP in this thread is a pretty revealing post about the mindset behind much of this zeal for putting people in "ignore." Sorry, but comparing them to prisoners at Gitmo does not cast a flattering light on the poster.

[SoFlaJet]

143. I'm pretty sure about one thing

that you have no sense of humor

[Pamela Troy]

155. Read my blog.

Then get back to me.

[SoFlaJet]

157. sorry Pamela

but I'll pass-from what I've seen from you so far today ...well it's enough for me

[Pamela Troy]

162. Then don't make blanket judgments about whether or not I have a sense of humor.

[Erin Elizabeth]

168. No one on my ignore list knows they are being ignored.

So how am I insulting them?

The only way that could happen is if someone copied and pasted their ignore list NAMES and put them here in the forum. That would be pretty crude, IMO.

But otherwise, like I said, it's a TOOL. It's neutral. I don't put a value judgement on it. Use it or don't, I don't care. It's not just for protection from personal abuse--if a person is that bad, they need to be alerted on and possibly tombstoned. It's also to avoid getting into petty, shitty non-arguments that only distract from true conversation.

And if you don't understand all that after I've explained it a few times, I can't help you any further.

[symbolman]

97. Maybe folks prefer not to be bothered with INSANE people?

funny, its the ones with NO sense of Humor that throw bullshit like Brave and Courageous out there..

The OP is a witty person, and doesnt deserve a bunch of Bitching "Captain Bummers" crazier that shithouse rats pestering them when they want an exchange of Ideas without fucking delusion and Venom..

Get real, your "brave & courageous" definitions are strange..

:)

[Pamela Troy]

113. I didn't say anything about either bravery or courage.

It's striking to note that the most vigorous defenders of the "ignore" feature here seem the least inclined to have actually read and understood the posts that anger them.

[Moochy]

128. "pretty cowardly to put people in the "ignored""

Cowardice and Courage are totally unrelated... :eyes:

Parse those words!

[Pamela Troy]

154. You see nothing in between cowardice and bravery?

[SoFlaJet]

122. thank you symbolman

some can still understand the concept of laughter-in the words of one Robert Plant; "does anybody remember LAUGHTER?"

[symbolman]

171. My pleasure :)

you gotta be sane to laugh, tho even the batshit crazies like to think they have a sense of humor..

Some people think they are mentally Responsible if everything is Serious business, I've found that people that take things too Literally are only trying to screw someone else with it.. Like a midget Mall Lawyer, a living legend in their own mind that to everyone else will last a Lunchtime :)

You're funny, dont let the Captain Bummers bring you down :)

[stevenleser]

80. *PLONK*

[SoCalDem]

20. Only 10?? You SLACKER..

I am thinking of applying for a federal grant..Mine are eating me out of house & home..

My Cheetos & Mountain Dew bills are HUGH!!

and whenever we go to DefCon 3, and Skinner give them a day-pass, they run amok and scare all the children.. "Ignor"amuses running with scissors & lit matches , wearing their underwear on their heads..well it's not a pretty sight

[SoFlaJet]

24. BWAHAHA

I'm still friggin laughing oh shit

[cliffordu]

119. LOL that's the funniest thing I've read here in weeks....

:rofl:

[Raine]

21. Too soon yet...

I could see from earlier in the week when due to high traffic the ignore option wasn't on that they are just as rude, obnoxious and unreasonable as ever. I got about 30 in there and they are staying locked up for the forseeable future.

[rox63]

22. I released all 20 from my list on Wednesday

I have managed to avoid putting any of them back on the list, although it's been tempting. It's interesting to watch them going through the various stages of the grieving process.

[anigbrowl]

23. I emptied out my ignore list the other day - the results are just funny, in a sad way

Now I just laugh rather than feeling annoyed by their daft arguments.

[Kittycat]

26. I released, but put one back on.

The others I can live with - the one I put back on is a complete moran, and needs to stay there. Possibly forever.

[Exilednight]

28. Most of mine have been TSed. A few managed to make it, but I believe a few more are .......

only avoiding the inevitable.

[SoFlaJet]

30. I think I may have a mod or two on mine Exiled

because yesterday one of the new inmates got a hold of two of my PM's ABOUT him and responded to me on what I wrote to fellow DUers about him-has that ever happened to anyone else here? It's been bugging me and I PMed Skinner about it a little while ago...

[Exilednight]

33. I rarely use the PM feature, and the few times I have used it the subjects weren't ......

anything to piss anyone off.

[grantcart]

31. I did a couple of days ago

I learned a lot

I learned that Obama lost Indiana by 14 points in a wipeout

I learned that Math allows you to round your numbers to fit your point

I learned that my family gets really really pissed when I laugh out loud like Pavarotti in Rigoletto

[cliffordu]

123. I'm glad I'm not on YOUR ignore list, GC....

:hi:

[rug]

32. As soon as the pharmacist fills your prescription.

[Kahuna]

34. I let a few go today. Some I had to put right back on.

:scared: I don't yjoml it will be safe until the nominee is official.

[MindMatter]

35. How would you know which ones to release?

Maybe DU can give us a rating, like the eBay seller rating. This one would be some relation ship between number of recommendations the member has received versus the number of ignore lists he is on.

I'm actually serious about that suggestion. It might lead to a bit more civility if a person is concerned about getting a bad rating. It would be especially effective if I could automatically ignore those in negative territory (more ignores than recommendations).

[Beausoir]

36. Good Lord. You ObamaTots are childish.

Not that it's a surprise to anyone.

[L0oniX]

37. Out of 55 in my ignore dungeon, 17 have been executed and now have tombstones.

Almost 1 in 3. I guess I am not that bad at picking out the soon to be departed.

[BlooInBloo]

38. I don't use ignore, so not an issue.

[Buzz Clik]

39. I'm keeping all mine on Ignore until May 20. HOWEVER!

I'm also maintaining my zero tolerance policy -- no second chances.

[DemGa]

40. Do you really feel the need to coordinate this effort?

Not that you can read this post.

[MonkeyFunk]

41. It's their form of unity

they unite only with people who think exactly like they do.

[golddigger]

44. They still haven't left grade school.

[Adelante]

51. You've never made my Ignore list

So there.

[golddigger]

43. The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and

his/her own are the same.

[Gore1FL]

46. I don't put anyone on ignore here

but if you felt the need to do so in the first place, I'd wait until they are in the acceptance stage of grief first. Right now, many are all over the place: denial, anger, bargaining and depression, And though many are at the acceptance stage, I am guessing you didn;t have any of them on ignore in the first place.

[DevonRex]

47. I released mine today. nt

[stillcool]

48. I don't know...

Kind of reminds me of when Eddie Spaghetti put gum in my hair in 4th Grade. He was a real jerk, but then when we got into the eighth grade we were best buddies. If Eddie Spaghetti can change there's hope for us all.

[emilyg]

49. Your ignore list is of no interest to me.

[cliffordu]

124. Did Ignored say something??

[AZBlue]

54. I suspect most of mine will be TS'd or just leave due to a temper tantrum.

In the meantime, I still have no desire to see their rants and ravings.

[ccharles000]

63. I don't put people on ignore I think its mean.

[crankychatter]

65. you don't even put mean people on ignore Charles

I like you better than I like your candidate

I wish I was more like you sometimes

:-)

[HuffleClaw]

64. 'ignore' = putting your fingers in your ears and saying 'I can't hear you, nyah nyah nyah'

and is just as childish

[Two Americas]

66. really disgusting

To talk about "Gitmo" and "orange jumpsuits" this way, about your fellow Democrats, is just wrong on several levels. I don't think the detainees are properly fair game for this sort of trivial comparison, the implication that you see your fellow Dems who happen to disagree with you with such contempt and hostility, the use of a joke to cover for an ugly and slanderous ideas...

This is awful, in my opinion.

[golddigger]

67. Right on the money Two Americas. I agree, "Really disgusting."

[SoFlaJet]

69. Lighten up Francis

sheesh

[stevenleser]

92. LOL, Sgt Hulka

it always makes me laugh to see that line.

[LizW]

87. It is creepy imagery, isn't it?

"Gitmo", "orange jumpsuits", "release", "execute"

All dehumanizing language used against fellow DUers.

Plus, open discussion of ignore lists never used to be tolerated here. It is intentionally divisive. But this OP was alerted on and nothing was done, so I guess DU condones it now.

[seaglass]

68. I don't have anyone on ignore so it is easy to see why some

of those on this thread have ignore lists. Your posts show your lack of emotional maturity; clearly anything but a mild disagreement would probably send you into a full blown fury that would likely get you banned.

I do understand your need for self-preservation, but why dont you just admit it - the ignore lists are all about you - not about other posters. :rofl:

[cboy4]

70. The correct answer is nobody cares about your little list.

:eyes:

[SoFlaJet]

71. then why respond

in a thread that holds no interest for you? I read hundreds of threads a day and choose not to respond in most of them "I don't CARE about your wittle wist".

I think I've figured it out now; if a person makes me want to respond with a "FUCK YOU" they should be put on ignore for TWO reasons
1; my blood pressure and
2: for the good of the board

[Bright Eyes]

72. Just 10?

I have 80!

I'll let them out when Clinton concedes.

[SoFlaJet]

73. I'm not "afraid" to confront most

here but when people have nothing' except the worn out tactics of insulting others' intelligence then that's where I draw the line. OR...when the main reason they incite you is to TRY and get you tombstoned then it just ain't worth it

[Evergreen Emerald]

77. Perhaps a democratic board is not for you, if you need to ignore

ideas different than your own. I would suggest e-mailing yourself back and forth, but there is no ignore feature on e-mail.

[SoFlaJet]

81. I've been here twice as long as you

and never had to resort to YOUR type of divisive tactics Evergreen Emerald...not your candidates tactics...YOURS

[Evergreen Emerald]

82. Right. My tactics: to defend my position and my progressiveness and my lack of racism

on a board that is supposed to be democratic. I have only responded.

[SoFlaJet]

86. I've been reading you for a while

you have a unique sense of selective outrage

[Evergreen Emerald]

88. As do you. As do you.

[SoFlaJet]

90. great response there

I know you are but what am I...I'm rubber you're glue...

[Evergreen Emerald]

94. That is the main problem on DU for Clinton supporters

We have been treated like crap. In post after post, disrespected, called ignorant, racist. The most vile posts of our candidate are acceptable and applauded, and indeed voted up. When we respond and defend ourselves and our candidate of choice, you all complain that we are so awful and should not even be allowed on DU.

And then, you suggest in the most laughable post of all, that I am selective in my outrage! In can only shake my head and point to the latest example of the hypocrisy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5922711&mesg_id=5922711

[Marrah_G]

93. Nice flamebait- please add me to your list.

[AZ Criminal JD]

101. Got a news bulletin for you

When you put someone on ignore you are the one who puts yourself in a cell. The ignored keeps on posting and being read by everyone else. You actually think you control someone? Pathetic.

[Kahuna]

104. Whoo boy. Another parolee just went back on.

:banghead:

[lumberjack_jeff]

107. "Ignore" threads: When GD/P just isn't stupid enough. n/t

[Teaser]

127. most of mine are tombstoned

.

[PurityOfEssence]

135. Whenever your Deacon or Commissar says so.

But please, do it in lock-step so we'll know what free thinkers you are...

[SoFlaJet]

140. the responses in this thread

have been very enlightening as to my original question from yesterday-that answer? Not yet SoFla-not yet

[here_is_to_hope]

141. Heck, I use threads like this to troll for new prisoners...

Ok, I dont. I posted about this issue right after Indiana, figuring it was safe then to clean out those who have nothing to contribute-on both sides from my pile of 'ignored'. It was a game after a while, seeing the tombstones, etc...but then, I took a lashing.
I have no reason to read snarky drive by's, none.

Telling that it seems only Clinton Campers are whining in these thread.

[SoFlaJet]

144. yea I remember that post h_i_t_h

and I made a similar thread Wednesday morning calling for unity which was like a guy walking up to the enemy with a white flag and then getting shot...it's too soon I guess

[here_is_to_hope]

151. Way too soon...but you have to try...

I know in the end we will most likely come together, leaner and meaner...
Look out McClame, we are going to getcha!

[Pamela Troy]

156. And you base this assumption about "Clinton Campers" on...what?

[Hepburn]

150. I think it is gonna take more time....

...there are some pretty ugly feelings ~~ from both sides ~~ as a residual of this primary fight.

Frankly, I am not ready yet to deal with more nastiness. I want to come down, take a breather and wait until all the fighting and shouting is over.

In other words, I hope the DU get united and the enemy is McCain and not the other Dem and/or his/her supporters.

[rainbow4321]

152. After Pres. Obama's inauguration speech?? n/t