Kennedy: No veep slot for Clinton (edit)

[Perky]

This from Ben Smith at Poliitco talking about Kennedy;s onair comments on Bloomberg to air this weekend
It's fun to think about, but there are so many obstacles, and Ted Kennedy isn't buying, he said on Bloomberg Television's "Political Capital With Al Hunt," which airs this weekend.

"I don't think it's possible," he told Hunt of the joint ticket, continuing that:

Obama should choose a running mate who "is in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people," Kennedy said. "If we had real leadership — as we do with Barack Obama — in the No. 2 spot as well, it'd be enormously helpful."

[crankychatter]

1. kick n/t

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[beachmom]

2. Ted Kennedy? And can you please provide a link?

[nsd]

17. Here.

link

[Cha]

3. Oh good...another reality check

..Thanks, Senator Kennedy.

[wvbygod]

9. Reality check time...where was Clinton mentioned?

I am not good at putting words in other mouths so perhaps you could
show me where Clinton was disqualified as VP?

[WA98296]

22. Kicking the good news

[Cha]

26. She disqualified herself,

genius.

[MadBadger]

28. The OP needs to Edit to Include Ben Smith's Updated Post that includes this line

I don't think it's possible," he told Hunt of the joint ticket, continuing that:

[wvbygod]

4. where is Clinton mentioned?

Or did you just make it up?

[John Q. Citizen]

18. If Obama put Clinton on as VP I wouldn't vote for him. It would be announcing that he was lying

about change, about a new direction.

I'm not worried though because i don't think he's lying.

[beachmom]

30. Go to the link. Post #17.

[monmouth]

5. If she ran as his VP I would have to really assess....n/t

[WA98296]

6. 1/4 billion in contributions is the Battle Cry for PEOPLE over Corporate agenda = No DLC

Thank you Senator Kennedy.

[Better Today]

7. "Nobler aspirations of the American People"

What a perfect way to word it.

[BlooInBloo]

8. Definitely rules out Clinton.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

12. sounds like a fairy tale to me...

Obama is a politician NOT a saint....

[Better Today]

25. Well, I think you just nailed your problem on the head. . .

you seem to think only saints can aspire to be noble. No wonder you so easily embrace a wretched person with so many faults and flaws that she herself has displayed with extreme arrogance.

[Better Today]

45. "American People" having nobler aspirations, so why do you project it to Obama is not a saint?

[last1standing]

10. I don't see where your title is valid.

Do you have a link that proves that Kennedy said that or are you just extrapolating and then trying to use it to stir up shit?

If it's the latter you should be ashamed of yourself.

[nsd]

14. Link here.

link

[last1standing]

19. Interesting remarks and very foolish at this point.

I would have thought Kennedy knew better than to back his candidate into a corner. The more backers who say things like that, the more Obama has to maneuver to keep from answering.

Very foolish.

[babylonsister]

20. Maybe he's doing Obama a favor, acting as a surrogate.

I imagine they talked about what Kennedy would say.

[last1standing]

24. I hope so, but I don't see how it helps Obama right now.

On the other hand, I'm not in the campaign so I don't see nearly what Kennedy and other see.

[babylonsister]

29. Maybe they're sending Clinton a very loud message. You're right,

I don't know either. ;)

[last1standing]

41. After seeing that 9 SDs have come out for Obama today, this makes more sense.

It looks like Hillary's latest remarks are forcing Obama to play hardball with her. If she doesn't get in line he's going to crush her. She'll be a laughing stock of the Democratic party if she isn't careful. He has the power to do that to her now.

But he did give her a chance. It was entirely her decision to use race-baiting to pander to "low information voters".

[CakeGrrl]

35. Pelosi said "No unity ticket" weeks ago

The Dem leadership doesn't seem to think that was harmful to the campaigns at that stage...

[last1standing]

37. Pelosi isn't on the Obama campaign.

In fact, she's officially neutral at this point so her comments couldn't be traced back to Obama.

[dailykoff]

43. Ted is saying it so Barack doesn't have to

just in case the Clintons haven't gotten that message, either.

[last1standing]

44. It's beginning to look that way.

Nine SDs have come out for Obama today, so far. He's going to overwhelm her it seems.

[ProSense]

15. Here

link

[MadBadger]

16. Add:I don't think it's possible," he told Hunt of the joint ticket, continuing that" To your post.

[AtomicKitten]

11. correctamundo

[enid602]

13. coalition

Remember, the Kennedy clan kept Sargent shriver from running in '68 (they wanted to save the spot for one of the Kennedy sons, NOT an in-law), despite the fact that Shriver was the author of much Great Society legislation. Obama would do better to include Hill on the ticket. Love her or hate her, she got (damn near) half the votes. I'll vote for Obama this November, but (barring Hill as VP) many will not. That's just statistics. It's Obama's choice: coalition (Obama/Hillary) or go-it-alone (a la McGovern '72). It would be a sort of preview as to what kind of President he'd make.

[highplainsdem]

23. I agree, and have said it elsewhere here. First real test of his ability to lead

a diverse party and diverse nation. First real test of whether he can be a pragmatic politician who needs her supporters because he is still, despite having an overwhelming financial advantage, barely doing better than Hillary.

I don't know if it will happen. I plan to vote for him anyway. But it will be with much less enthusiasm, and I'd give him a much smaller chance of winning if he doesn't pick her.

[PATRICK]

38. Same idea, totally different conclusion

and I think it is because I see the general election as wholly different from party concerns. There, and in the WH, even minus any personal mistake or outfallings, Hillary will be a big liability, distraction and easily propped rival to Obama at the whim of the media. She has almost made it easy to go beyond that
ugly fact by some of her less palatable campaign statements. How did Dukais deal with the Jesse Jackson bloc? Not very well either way.

An unethusiastic Dem voter is still a Dem voter. Obama has plenty of ground troups with enthusiasm to make up for such a regrettable loss. His real test is not just eking out the nomination but settling the party leadership scene, consolidating, showing who is in charge(on behalf of the little donors) and not throwing HRC supporters under her and the bus.

The other perspective solves nothing if HRC herself decides at some point to go the other way or merely to retain that capability- which no other Dem is granted- to resume a power contest in some shape or form. he may be forced to make a "brilliant" VP choice and other diplomatic concessions which are more to
cement the party together than get the best choices or the best chances among non-Dems in November. Hillary has way too much say in all these matters and has earned it. So, I know everyone on all sides bget emotional and sentimental ahead of time over various scenarios but we have kept to the trivial tone of ritiual dem suicide for too long to simply bounce back into our bubbly manic stage.

Let's just get to work and have a lot of understanding for the tough situation facing our candidates, ourselves and hey, what about the rest of the world we daily harm?

BTW we will TRY to vote in November and TRY to have our votes counted and HOPE our message gets through to ordinary people like ourselves. We might EXPECT, absent recent memory, the good will triumph. Small luxury for our guesses or feelings in this brutal reality. Anything resembling running to the GOP script in any way shape or form, especially things sympathetic to our own feelings, is a key to our POSSIBLE defeat.

[Pluvious]

47. But which way does the math work out ?

On the one hand we have Hillary Dems staying home on election day,
but on the other, we'd have Repugs motivated to go to the polls
to vote for McLame just because Hillary's on the Dem ticket...

Which way does the math go ? Net gain or net loss ?

(and I refuse to believe ANY Dem would vote for McLame out
of spite - how could they live with themselves ???)

---
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

[Doityourself]

21. I agree. No VP slot for Clinton. Her and hubby's choke on the party is over...Obama bested them

[WeDidIt]

27. OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark n/t

[Perky]

31. OP KIck for edit

[GetTheRightVote]

32. Thank you Ted Kennedy, thank you, one of the great leaders of the Dem party

kicking it !!

[Mme. Defarge]

33. K&R!

[TBF]

34. Kennedy is right - especially after her racists outbursts (and those of her husband),

Hillary's leadership days are numbered.

[DemGa]

36. Ted Kennedy ran against a sitting Dem President to the convention

--screwed Carter, split the Dems, and gave us Ronald Reagan. The liberal left is making another run.

[Leopolds Ghost]

39. Oh, SNAP!

[walldude]

40. Not up to Kennedy..

Obama will choose who he thinks will best help him. I will respect his decision. As I would hers should she pull a rabbit out of a hat and win..

[dailykoff]

42. Welp, there goes the Klan vote.

And after she ran such an inspiring campaign, too.

[bvar22]

46. I'm with Kennedy.

Obama would be better served if he picks a Democrat for his running mate.
Kennedy was a bit more diplomatic in saying so, but that is why they pay him the big bucks, and I'm just a poor hard working white guy for Obama.