MSNBC MUST have made mistake: reported 10 min ago that AFL-CIO will be HELPING McCain

[WA98296]

By sending out more than 6,000 of it's people to 22 states to talk to people about McCain!

Organized labor?
Have they lost their minds?

UPDATE: I am hoping that the reporter made a mistake... but clearly they said the AFL-CIO was HELPING McCain

I just replayed it a 4th time from tivo:

At 34 minutes after the hour:

"John McCain is getting more help from organized labor, the AFL-CIO announcing it will send more than 6,000 of it's people to more than 22 states over the next two weekends to talk about Senator McCain."

[TwilightGardener]

1. Bizarre--talk about voting against your own interests.

[dkf]

19. No no no...they are going around telling people what a disaster McCain would be.

[TwilightGardener]

22. Oh...well...never mind!

[flpoljunkie]

2. If this is true, yes!

[WA98296]

5. I replayed on tivo three times, I couldn't believe my ears...

[mcctatas]

28. I hope he gets more people working for him like this

http://afl-cio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm?source=mccainrevealed

:rofl:

[slinkerwink]

3. we need to have our other unions come down hard on AFL-CIO. AFL-CIO backs Hillary, btw.

[Name removed]

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[Kittycat]

20. How about not making assy comments and explaining?

[billyoc]

36. That was the polite version. There's no explaining anything to anyone

who believes the AFL-CIO would ever help McCain, so forget it.

[democrattotheend]

25. The AFL-CIO has not endorsed Hillary, and they are not pro-McCain

Many of the AFL-CIO member unions have endorsed Hillary, and some have endorsed Obama (he just picked up AFGE this morning). The AFL-CIO as an organization has not endorsed a presidential candidate, but they have issued an anti-endorsement of McCain. Absent a nominee, the AFL-CIO is working to define McCain as anti-worker and Bush's third term. It sounds like the way MSNBC reported it was misleading.

[ShortnFiery]

4. The LEADERSHIP has lost touch with it's members, not unlike Representatives have lost ...

understanding with their Constituents. :thumbsdown:

[BrklynLib at work]

8. There are cases where the LEADERSHIP of a union is as bad as the corporate

leadership. I agree, they are definitley not in touch with their membership, and are working against the interests of the blue- and white-collar workers.

[billyoc]

14. Have we really.

http://afl-cio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm?source=mccainrevealed

[democrattotheend]

18. The leadership of the AFL-CIO is anti-McCain

The AFL-CIO has not endorsed a candidate, but they have issued essentially an anti-endorsement, endorsing the defeat of John McCain. They are working to convince their members that McCain is bad news for working families. Check this out: http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm

[billyoc]

6. SURE we will. Here's a sample:

http://afl-cio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm?source=mccainrevealed

[BrklynLib at work]

23. They CLAIM they are not endorsing anyone yet..

What Is Working Families Vote 2008?

WORKING FAMILIES VOTE 2008 is the online center for union members and all working women and men to get involved in selecting America's next president. This site's goal is to provide a comprehensive voter guide that fosters civic participation among working people and encourages them to register and vote by informing and engaging them on key working family issues and the presidential candidates' records and positions on the issues. The AFL-CIO has not endorsed any candidate, and as a matter of policy, the AFL-CIO will not do so unless and until its affiliated unions reach a sufficient consensus on a particular candidate. Meanwhile, this website provides and links to information about all viable declared and exploratory presidential candidates seeking the nomination of either major political party

http://afl-cio.org/issues/politics/whatis.cfm

[democrattotheend]

29. They haven't endorsed anyone yet

A lot of their member unions have endorsed Hillary, and a few have endorsed Obama (he just picked up AFGE today). But the AFL-CIO as an organization does not endorse until 2/3 of the member unions (in proportion to the number of members each union has) have endorsed.

[madaboutharry]

7. I heard someone from the AFL-CIO

on Bill Press yesterday and as I understood it, they were sending out people to talk about McCain and tell people what a shit he is. NOT TO HELP HIM, but to make sure that voters know what a right wing nutbag he is.

on edit: it could have been someone from another huge union, but I am sure this was it.

[CatsDogsBabies]

11. this makes more sense

talking about McCain doesn't mean saying good things

[krawhitham]

15. You are correct,

people just go to afl-cio's website and you will see what they are doing

[WA98296]

33. HOPE this is true. BUT MSNBC reports that they are HELPING McCain. Their mistake?

Still have on tivo.

[Coexist]

10. Please consider changing your headline

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/

that isn't right.

[4themind]

34. EVERYONE IN THIS POST READ THIS THREAD BEFORE YOU SUBMIT ANOTHER POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics /

YES THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM, LIKE OBAMA IS TALKING ABOUT HIM, TO HIGHLIGHT WHY HE WOULDN'T BE A GOOD PRESIDENT
Sorry for the caps and I think it's just a simple misunderstainding/misrepresentation form the media, but I wanted to help stem the tide a bit. Thakns!

[WA98296]

41. Changed, Replayed on Tivo AGAIN, and YES that is what MSNBC reported. See updated original

[Coexist]

45. well, there's some egg on MSNBC's face, then!

[dkf]

ANTI-McCAIN! Not pro-McCain

AFL-CIO extends anti-McCain campaign

The nation's largest labor federation announced today that it will go door-to-door in battleground states over the next two weekends to tell union voters about its concerns with Republican John McCain's economic and healthcare proposals.

The AFL-CIO said it hopes to reach 200,000 swing voters with 6,200 volunteers as part of its "McCain Revealed" campaign. The canvassers are scheduled to be in Colorado and Michigan this coming weekend, and in Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington state, the weekend of May 17.
The labor federation could be a crucial ally for the Democratic nominee in November against McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee.

"Sen. McCain's economic path would lead to disaster for America's working families," AFL-CIO President John Sweeney said in a statement. "He wants to tax health care benefits and supports unfair trade policies that send family-supporting jobs overseas. It's time for McCain to tune out the corporate and insurance industry lobbyists who hold sway in his campaign and start listening to the real concerns of working people."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/05/aflcio_extends.html

[democrattotheend]

12. To talk about why McCain is bad for working families

In the absense of a nominee (yet), the AFL-CIO has been working to define McCain for their members, to show them that he's not really a moderate when it comes to issues important to them. They are trying to convince their members why McCain is bad for them. They have been protesting at McCain events since March.

[lumberjack_jeff]

13. No biggie. I'm sure that the AFL-CIO are a bunch of ignorant bigoted white-trash racists anyhow.

Us DU'ers can win without 'em.

:sarcasm:

[democrattotheend]

16. The AFL-CIO is campaigning AGAINST McCain

Check this out:
http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm

[ampad]

27. WTF

Even though you used the sarcasm thingy I think that was uncalled for, no one said anything of the sort. Why bring race into yet another thread where race isn't even mentioned. I bet you are one of the ones calling for folks to back off Hillary and her supporters yet you come in this thread with this shit. Sarcasm or not I think that was uncalled for in a thread where race wasn't even fucking mentioned.

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. One needn't look too far for threads explaining how much better off since our integrity is undiluted

by "racist" "white trash" "ignorant" "uneducated" working class folks.

We only seem to have any concern about our systematic and deliberate party purge when it appears that democrats are leaving en masse.

Democrats becoming Republicans is a bad thing. Sometimes I feel that I'm the only one here who really believes that.

[tpsbmam]

17. Bull.

Yeah, they'll be sending people out to talk about McCain -- to INFORM them about how bad he is.

Go to the AFL-CIO website. Here's what you'll find on McCain in just a couple of clicks:

McCain Revealed: The Briefing Book http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm

Front page story:
http://blog.aflcio.org/2008/05/08/mccain-to-14-year-old-girl-no-fair-pay-for-you/

McCain to 14-Year-Old Girl: ‘No Fair Pay for You’


There is no way in hell the AFL-CIO will support McCain.

[JVS]

21. WRONG. They're spreading negative info on McCain

This is good.

[MaineDem]

24. You have time to edit your post

Please clarify to show it's anti-McCain.

[SoonerPride]

26. Sending out people to slam McCain. Good for them!

[futureliveshere]

30. Dude, change your post to reflect reality or it will get locked.

[State the Obvious]

31. Didn't the AFL-CIO president from PENNSYLVANIA say that?

...after the Pennsylvania primary? (I am not sure what you are referring to)

I DO know one thing, though....the ILWU (longshoreman) on the West Coast is supporting Barack Obama. That is a huge block of support for him.

(I think Obama will get major support from organized labor.)

[democrattotheend]

32. Please change your headline

This is incredibly misleading. The AFL-CIO has not endorsed a candidate, but they have issued essentially an anti-endorsement, endorsing the defeat of John McCain. They are working to convince their members that McCain is bad news for working families. Check this out: http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm

Since March, while Clinton and Obama have been duking it out, the AFL-CIO has been busy trying to define McCain for its members and the general public, working to shed the myth that he is a maverick and demonstrate why he is bad news for working families. They have been protesting outside of his events for months.

[4themind]

35. NOT TRUE READ THIS BEFORE ANYONE MAKES ANOTHER POST PLEASE!!! !!!! !!!!! !!! !11111111!!!!!

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics /

WELL PERHAPS IN A SENSE IT IS YES THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM, LIKE OBAMA IS TALKING ABOUT HIM, TO HIGHLIGHT WHY HE WOULDN'T BE A GOOD PRESIDENT
Sorry for the caps and I think it's just a simple misunderstainding/misrepresentation form the media, but I wanted to help stem the tide a bit.
Please also consider changing the OP title before the editing period expires. Thanks!

[Vinca]

39. Amazing. So MSNBC is reporting this as a plus for the McCain

campaign when it's the exact opposite? I'm sure glad you posted this, I was beside myself when I heard the report.

[nvme]

38. I dont get it?

I checked the afl-cio website and its pretty anti mc cain. can you provide a link to the msnbc story. It seems you are on the wrong track.

[Vinca]

40. I heard it on MSNBC, too, and they made it sound like they

were endorsing McCain, even though that's not the case.

[WA98296]

42. Thank God someone else heard this. MSNBC needs to CLARIFY THEIR mistake.

[kevinmc]

43. They have been following McCain around the country and going against him .....

they have been doing it for a couple months.

[slinkerwink]

44. AFL-CIO press release says otherwise

The nation's largest labor federation announced today that it will go door-to-door in battleground states over the next two weekends to tell union voters about its concerns with Republican John McCain's economic and healthcare proposals.

[Vinca]

46. I emailed MSNBC for whatever that's worth. nt