Is the DLC now irrelevant? Are we looking at a new Democratic Party?

[kentuck]

Is Bill Clinton still the leader of our Party? Is his style of politics still relevant? Do we still have to pander to the conservatives in the South in order to win elections? Or can we win the South by being sensible and rational progressives? Or do we now expand our Party to other parts of the country, including parts of the West and the Middle states?

What does the new Party look like? Will they be as frozen in fear and inaction as the present Democratic Party? Or will they be more daring and aggressive with their agenda? Will they finally pass some healthcare legislation? Will they actually end the war in Iraq? Will they create more jobs and a more equitable tax structure to pay for the needs of our people?

Or will they still be slaves to the DLC and the conservative policies of the past? Will they make more trade deals that favor Big Business? Just how much change can we expect with the "new" Democratic Party? Do you feel more positive about the new direction or do you think everything will stay about the same?

[LaurenG]

1. Oh lord I hope so, man do I hope.

No more DLC, may it go the way of the dodo bird and may it rest in peace.

[Roland99]

5. megadittoes

:rofl:

[RainDog]

2. I was pondering that same sort of thing

here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5889730

all I can say is - I am ready to become the nation of Lincoln... and he surely wouldn't recognize those that call themselves republicans today.

[WA98296]

3. YES! Let's keep working toward that. No DLCers as VP. Vote DINOs out altogether!

[CoffeeCat]

4. I have dreamed of the day when the DLC...

...was told to go to hell.

Never, in my wildest dreams, did I think it would happen so soon.

Those DLC neocon scumbags are even worse than the Republicans, because we expect
the Republicans to be warmongering corporatists. The DLC/neocon faction of
our party, are the weaklings who capitulated to their own greed and desire to
be in on the power grab.

They sold out. They sold our party out. They tried to take down our party.

Fuck each and every one of their traitorous, corrupt, PNAC-enabling asses!

[crankychatter]

6. if we can somehow transfer the internet model for fundraising to downticket races

and eliminate corporate dependence

maybe

you figure that one out... I'm following YOU

[kentuck]

8. There's a reason why Democrats rule the Internet.

It's called truth. When you have to put your words down into thoughts, they have to be rational and logical. That dooms the Republicans.

[liberalla]

14. "That dooms the Republicans"

"When you have to put your words down into thoughts, they have to be rational and logical. That dooms the Republicans."

Great observation! I love it, and it's so true.

[kentuck]

16. And they cling to their talk radio heroes...

And they covet the control of the Internet...:-)

[Solon]

7. The problem is that people focus so much on the DLC, they are ignoring the non-DLC centrists...

who are, in reality, not that much different from the DLC in either policy or attitude.

[OHdem10]

9. A More Conservative Democratic Party than EVER.

Sam Nunn as VP gives the clue. He is a true BELIEVER conservative
as well as most Blue Dogs. They are also pro-business. Just watch
their votes.

The difference between them and DLC. DLCer's are easier to convince
on Liberal Issues. Since they are not wedded to Conservative Ideology
they are usually more reasonable to deal with.

I am not defending Blue dogs or DLC. I have to laugh when people
think the DLC is dead.

Right now it is the Blue Dogs standing their ground on war funding.
They will stand by their guns. The war will be funded. Their green
eye shades will tell them we cnnot afford the Special Education Benefits
for GIs. Conservative Economics.

[rocktivity]

10. If Obama gets in, the DLC is OUT.

Why do you think a surrogate of Hillary (a DLC officer) has been dropping hints about a VP slot? Because they won't have a pipeline into the Obama Oval office otherwise, that's why. Why do you think she wants MI/FL delegates seated as is? Because it would put DNC head Howard Dean, and by extension the progressive Dems, out of business, that's why.

What's happening is the DLC's worst nightmare. Any legislation they'd pass would be sure to benefit their corporate backers the most--just like with the Republicans!

But having said that, I want to point out that it's still possible for Hillary to win fair and square: All she has to do is win all six of the remaining contests with 86% of the vote!

:headbang:
rocknation

[liberalla]

11. God, I hope so!

"Or will they still be slaves to the DLC and the conservative policies of the past?"

I feel the conservative mindset and policies are weakening and falling away. Not as quickly as I would like, but that is the direction. Broadly speaking, I feel more optimistic and hopeful for a "new Democratic Party in the future. Not to be redundant - God, I hope so!

[billyoc]

12. Not yet. We have to redouble our efforts to get rid of them now.

They've been completely discredited, but don't get complacent.

[Breeze54]

13. The DLC was always irrelevent...

in my world... vote them all OUT!!

Replace with progressives!

[David__77]

15. Bill Clinton hasn't been party leader for some time.

Certainly not after early 2004. Their plans for the party fell through. The corporate faction has been bloodied but not beated and relegated to obscurity. It's fine to have some corporate Democrats in districts where such an attribute is an advantage. But they should not be making party policy.

[bigtree]

17. no. DU will still blame them for the sun falling