Hillary backer on Ed Schultz today: "I will work hard for John McCain."

[Faygo Kid]

She said she had been a registered Democrat for 40 years, but changed her registration to Republican this week with the intent to do all she could to elect McCain, now that (as she acknowledged) Obama is the presumptive nominee. Needless to say, she sounded bitter.

She attributed others' support of Obama to (quote) "white guilt" and the desire to live "the black experience."

She said a few unkind words about the Kennedys and Richardson, too, but Ed challenged her about backing McCain simply because she doesn't like Obama's "personality." (By "personality," I think we know he meant "color.")

OK, this was a racist caller, and certainly that doesn't motivate most Hillary supporters by any means. (You can find them on "Hillary is 44" and Hillaryclintonforum.net, but not here at DU.)

But that said, my gosh - I simply can't understand the depth of hatred that would trigger a Dem of 40 years to switch to the GOP, AND to promise to work as hard as she can to defeat the Dem nominee, even though his positions are far closer to Hillary's than McCain's. Parts of that attitude (not the racism) are sometimes on display here at DU, too, and I don't get it.

From either side, what gives?

[skipos]

1. She is just taking a cue from Hillary

If Hillary can't be the nominee, she will take her ball and go home... and then give it to McCain.

[Texas Hill Country]

7. thats a bullshit meme, please stop repeating that.

[skipos]

25. I will stop repeating it when she stops acting the part

Why did Romney, Thompson and Giulliani all drop out when they could have stayed in? Because they want McCain to win.
Why did Huckabee stay in and refrain from attacking McCain? Because he wants McCain to win.

Why won't Hillary do the same? All you have to do is look at what she did in MI. She didn't give a FUCK about us when she didn't think she needed us. She didn't utter a PEEP about caucuses until Obama started winning a bunch of them.

I have supported her and given money to the Clintons in the past, but it is becoming clear that Hillary only cares about Hillary. Let me know when she starts campaigning against McCain, and starts helping out our soon-to-be nominee.

[FrenchieCat]

62. Maybe Hillary needs to stop.

Ever thought about that?

[Joe the Revelator]

79. There is nothing bullshit about that "meme" when your candidate is living up to it.

[Judge_Mental]

72. Just following the Clinton machine.

White people won't vote for Obama. :puke:

[invictus]

2. Hillary and McCain have the same base. Just look at the exit polls. n/t

[Shakespeare]

3. Fuck ANYBODY who does that.

Signed, Shakespeare's extremely pissed off ovaries.

There's WAY too much at stake here (i.e., supreme court) to throw a tantrum in the form that could work against a democratic majority.

[PoliticalAmazon]

43. It's everyone's right to handle voting how they think is best for America....

Why don't we give these voters--who may be reacting out of grief and disappointment--some breathing room to reflect on it a little more?

But, when it comes down to it, we all have to make the choice in voting that we belive is best for America. We need to respect that choice in others, and not demonize them for choosing a different path than we have chosen.

[Shakespeare]

77. Sorry, but just as they have the right to vote, I have the right to criticize their poor choice.

Obama wasn't my candidate--I'm an Edwards supporter. But you'd better believe I'll be voting for Obama in November.

And anybody who pulls the lever for McCain--ESPECIALLY if they do so out of a tantrum-y reaction to losing their candidate--deserves to be roundly criticized.

[PoliticalAmazon]

81. Pardon, but "FUCK ANYBODY WHO DOES THAT" isn't a very good argument . n/t

[Shakespeare]

92. That's not my argument, as you well know.

Unless, of course, you didn't bother to read the body of my post.

[BrklynLib at work]

4. Not the workings of a rational mind...that is for sure.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And she'll move to Canada when Obama wins.

[Connie_Corleone]

6. How a woman can vote for someone who will set back women's rights is beyond me.

Maybe they are Republican women supporting Hillary only because she's a woman.

[Texas Hill Country]

11. i've heard many women say the feel like Hillary is being told "ok, little girl, get out of the way"

and has been for months by the media, by Obama's camp, and the Party.


they are pissed.

[Mooney]

20. And I've heard many women say that HRC has set the women's movement back 40 years.

So there are a lot of different opinions out there, you know?

[Kittycat]

30. I agree with the setback opinion. And as a woman,

I'm completely ashamed of her.

[Mags]

37. Why in the world would you be ashamed of her? If she

were a man running against BO , would you be ashamed of Him?

[Lerkfish]

44. actually, yes. I'd be ashamed of ANYONE running a campaign like that.

male, female, androgynous, alien bloodworm.

[Mags]

46. first campaign huh?

[Kittycat]

49. No, not my first, but as a woman...

I expect more from other women.

[Mags]

56. Well you won't get it from the Women for BHO

[Lerkfish]

59. here, you might need this:

[Mags]

61. is that for the trash at DU or what?

[Lerkfish]

67. it's a "BROAD BRUSH". you should recognize it since you swing it about so often.

[Mags]

95. that's for the BHO folk. you can use for yourself.

[Alexander]

100. You assumed (wrongly) this was someone else's first campaign. Looks like you need it more.

[Kittycat]

94. Really? You should consider joining one of the many intelligent and active

Women for Obama listserv's from his site. I'm part of the IL one, and I've only seen intelligent conversation, and calls for active support of the Dem party.

No racist or divisional/attack speak that hillary prefers to spread.

[Lerkfish]

51. um, nope. I'm 50 years old. You?

and this is the most vile, divisive democratic campaign I've ever seen.

[Mags]

55. 58 and I couldn't agree with you more. I would have never

thought that the Dem. Party would demean and belittle the best Female Canidate we have ever had, and stand by and accept the mainstream media making fun of her and her daughter, I really doubt I can stick with the party I have worked so hard for. My first campaign was Jimmy Carter, My last was Harold Ford, Jr. This will probably be my last.

[Lerkfish]

58. I think you have blinders on, if you give Clinton a pass for being divisive about race.

and you are.

and am I reading you correctly that you will refuse to support Obama?

[Faygo Kid]

82. I'm 56, and I approve this exchange of views.

Thanks, Lerkfish.

I think there is a phenomenon at work here, and Mags and others here are so angry they have lost perspective.

As the son of a remarkable woman who was a girls' laundry room attendant at a high school to raise her sons alone, I am amazed that so many are so angry that they actually consider supporting McCain, not Obama. Mom would maybe have supported Hillary initially, but she would have had more than a few colorful words for women who would actually support the Republican in this election, given the stakes.

There's more. But for now, thanks for a fascinating exchange.

[Mags]

85. that's my personal vote, I have to think about it, like Michele

[Lerkfish]

109. well, then you need to think really hard about it. iF you think McCain is the answer

to your bitter grapes, then you have absolutely no place in this forum at all, and should seek out a republican board where you'd be more comfortable.

[salbi]

48. As a white woman, I am ashamed of the way she has run her race, and no it's not my first campaign

[Mooney]

41. The last person who said that to me

was a white woman, over 65, very middle class --- supposedly Hillary's main demographic. And she was livid. I thought steam geysers were going to shoot out of her ears.

[genna]

89. As a woman, I'm ashamed of Hillary for waging the kind of campaign she has.

What made her choose to appeal to people along race/gender lines?

Some of the women who support her have gone out of their way to make many criticisms against her campaign style, criticisms against women. You can't point to Obama and say he hates women. Where is your evidence?

I can point to Clinton saying it is a boy's club. I haven't seen that many Black men in office during this country's 300+ years.

I can point to Clinton saying people are piling up on her because she is a woman. Can you see Clinton going over the top and beyond to show that she will be tougher than the boys.

Did you read the NY NOW's screed on what the Kennedys owed them for supporting his seat all these years? Have you heard anyone sane say Obama is the black candidate and we, Americans, owe him that seat?

Obama has continually said the most remote assertion about Wright is fair game even though some of these attackers have been race baiting.

Let's be honest about what this primary campaign has threw at us. It was more than the kitchen sink.

Democrats don't stand for race baiting. When the Democratic party becomes the party of the race baiters, it might be time for those of us who STRONGLY DISAGREE with using race as a wedge to leave it. Democrats also are not the party trying to force women to continue pregnancies even when there is rape and horrible consequences for the mother.

You might hear women saying they are upset about this primary. Count me in.

[Pirate Smile]

26. They should be pissed at her. She lost. She has been given tons of extra time and space because

she is a former first lady. She has been treated much better then any other losing candidate would have been if they were in the same situation.

The victim crap just doesn't work here. I know it sucks to have to accept that the person you wanted to win lost but most of us have had to deal with that at some time or another. It is heartbreaking when you go through it. However, she has not been pushed out early - not by a long shot. This race was essentially over after Obama won Wisconsin - February 19th.

[skipos]

28. Then those people aren't very perceptive. The media used to assume

that Hillary was our nominee. Chris Matthews used to ask "who is the GOP going to run against Hillary. Then Iowa happened and Obama has a pledged delegate lead ever since. Over the last few weeks, the media has been pretending she had a shot for months when she hasn't. They ignored Huckabee when he didn't have a chance.

[Larkspur]

31. Hillary screwed up and grossly miscalculated how the Dem Primary works

If her campaign script were a Hollywood movie script it would have been tossed in the garbage because no one would believe that the wife of a former President would not know how the Democratic Primary works.

The fact that she chose, like Bush, people loyal to her as opposed to those who knew the primary rules makes me glad that Obama defeated her. Not knowing the rules of the primary is inexcusable and choosing people who don't know the rules is a lot like Bush choosing cronies over experts. Also confirms her poor judgment. The last thing I'd want is Hillary near the proverbial "Red Button" or making decisions at 3 AM.

[Mags]

36. I would have never believe the strong Dem. Women that I

know that say they will move to an Independent registration. Not necessarily voting MCCain, just not voting. It amazes me, and scares me all at the same time.

[beachmom]

57. Being told that by a majority of VOTERS. That is how it works.

[PoliticalAmazon]

84. That doesn't make sense. I think they may have issues,...

perhaps being told that themselves previously. Lord knows, that's even been tried with me a couple of times, and I'm a very aggressive woman.

I just don't think this applies to Hillary, however. I think she's milked the sympathy from women until that cow should have been dry months ago, and played on women, especially older women who are more likely to have experienced gender discrimination, by twisting every little that happens into somehow an attack on her, on her because she is a woman, and on her and all women in general.

Hillary has been given every opportunity to make her case. She has been treated, in many cases, much more gently because she does term everything as gender discrimination, even legtimate criticism of her political tactics and habit of lying.

She's being told to call it a day because it's clear that she can't win. She's been divisive for months, and furthering her campaign will only cause more division AND waste more Democratic Party resources, running up even MORE debt.

That's my take on it. I"m sorry that some women believe she's being told "ok littl girl, get ouit of the way." I think that's an indication that there is some lingering fallout from the blatant, aggressive, and demoraizing type of gender discrimination the generations of my mother and I experienced.

My mother's generation had it much worse than my generation, and until the day she died she carried resentment over opportunities denied and shabby treatment against her just because she was a woman. In WWII she worked in Denver in a factory that made canvas tents for the military. The crew that folded these big, heavy, dirty/dusty canvas tents (we are talking huge mess and staff tents) was largely women. She was the supervisor for that division. The women in the factory, no matter what they were doing, were required to wear dresses AND silk nylons. My mother challenged the rule and nearly lost her job, but management agreed to allow the women to wear pants and work shoes.

I think that's why she was so happy, after WWII, working for the labor unions: they appreciated her hard work and didn't give her grief about being a woman.

Anyway, got sidetracked here. I feel badly that there are women who still see the world through the lens of the gender discrimination they suffered in the past. It's something I never expected to surface in this campaign...but I bet my mother would have seen it coming.

[machiado]

108. If she were a man, she would not have won New Hampshire

New Hampshire was won by Hillary because the women came out to vote for her, partly out of frustration and anger at how the media was treating her and discounting her. Had she been a man who had just lost Iowa, the media would have discounted "him", but without the misogyny. In the end the media bias worked to her favor because there was a backlash against the media by the voters.

[crankychatter]

38. I think it's urban mythology promulgated by right wingers

no lifelong dem, especially one committed to a balanced supreme court and the preservation of roe v wade would consider such bullshit for a minute

I don't believe it

[newmajority]

8. That caller was not a Democrat

Hatred of the Kennedys is a dead giveaway to Freepishness. Racism only confirms it.

And unfortunately, SOME of the Hillbots here are racists. But they're probably the same ones from those "darksider" forums.

[CakeGrrl]

9. She and her ilk can be replaced...GOTV

n/t

[gateley]

10. I attribute a lot of it to the

length of time this campaign has been going on. I don't think the (dare I use the word?) bitterness was so deep a few months ago. It's been allowed to fester.

With the "white guilt" and "black experience" I also have to wonder if there's a bit of racism -- maybe unrealized -- adding to the feelings.

I just would ask such people -- what about Roe v Wade? What about Iraq? What about the benefits for our veterans? How about the permanent tax cut for the wealthiest Americans? How could you put your head on the pillow at night knowing who you'd chosen to lead our country?

[ORDem]

12. I hope Ed put her in her place. He should send her a few photos of flag-draped

coffins or some photos of Iraqi or Afghani civilians blown to bits and ask her if her relatively petty concerns match up to the continued horror McCain will surely wreak upon the world.

:dem:

[livetohike]

13. Sounds like an Operation Chaos fool/tool n/t

[BeyondGeography]

14. Few people will behave like that in the end

Reason: It's unhealthy. Most people get tired of acting like miserable shits as time goes by.

[doc03]

15. Did fat head Schultz's head explode? n/t

[backscatter712]

16. Fuck that racist freeptard.

We don't need that trash in the Democratic party.

I'm more than happy to go the distance without that shit.

[Mags]

66. God, you folk have already taken over and are sending Dems to out the door

just because they don't like your man. I hate to tell you , there is trash in every party. You will take their votes in the end. You will need them. Keep on trying to purify the party.

[Judge_Mental]

74. Wrong, she ran out the door herself.

Keep on defending folks who vote for McCain, that'll help the party.

[Happyhippychick]

17. Who knows if that's true? I call bullshit.

[bunkerbuster1]

35. Yeah, probably a concern troll

and if she got onto Ed's show, probably a pretty damn good one at that.

[Pisces]

18. These old bigots have seen their time, they are fighting it tooth and nail.

[npincus]

19. she can go fuck herself.

[NoodleyAppendage]

21. Screw her. We don't need racist, ignorant pieces-of-shit in our party. n/t

J

[SoCalDem]

22. Well Goody for HER.. McCain can use every vote he can get

:)

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

23. She's not getting it from Clinton

who has pledged to support the nominee. Sadly, I think there are racists in our party. Too bad. But hopefully the GOP is so morally bankrupt that for every one of these "Democrats" who turn, we'll get 10 good conservatives voting for Obama because they want their country back just as much as we do.

[Tresalisa]

24. I refuse to believe that caller was a Dem in the first place.

It happens all the time on call-in programs - "I'm a lifelong __________________ but am now supporting ______________ because of ____________ ... :shrug:

[EFerrari]

32. I agree, but my own mom just said the same thing to me yesterday

and she has been a precinct walker for Democrats since she first got her citizenship papers in 1954.

Like you, I've heard a lot of fake "Democrats" call into talks shows and all that. My mom is no fake and she's in the middle of a melt down.

She may come around but, I think it's a mistake to underestimate how disappointed some Clinton supporters feel right now. I adore my mom and respect her choices. She's always been a flaming liberal -- more to the left than I am, if you can believe that.

She really wanted this.

There has to be a space here for people to come to terms with what has just happened. That will require time and space and good will. I hope we have those things.

[Ewellian]

27. She's probably

spent too much time online as a Hillary supporter enduring all the misogynistic attacks....and taken it too seriously.

[Cha]

40. "Misogynistic attack"?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[RaleighNCDUer]

29. I strongly suspect it's just another aspect of Operation Chaos.

Republican operative calling in to 1) create the appearance of white flight from Obama as the nominee, and 2) make Obama look like the loser, because if the Hillary supporters abandon him then he can't win against McCain. Two objectives: 1) encourage the SDs to flip to Hillary, who the republicans believe they can beat more easily, and 2) failing that, weaken Obama enough that he actually might lose against McCain.

[Faygo Kid]

47. I dunno. You had to hear her. I think she was sincere.

At least in her anger and hatred. Either that, or she ought to get an acting job somewhere, because she was damned good at her voice trembling with barely controlled seething rage.

[tpsbmam]

33. Stupid is as stupid does.

I have zero patience with Democratic supporters of either candidate who say this or say they're not going to vote if their chosen one isn't the nominee.

[Cha]

34. I first read that as..."hilary on Ed Schultz today saying

I will work hard for john mccain"..brawawawawawaaa

[QueenOfCalifornia]

39. Still don't believe me?

racism is alive and well.

That life-long Democrat Hillary supporter is not alone.. Oh no... She wants more war. More wasted lives. More suicide. More failure. More horrible supreme court appointees. More tax debt passed to our children. More scandal and lies - which is what the straight talk express will deliver ... All that she will accept before she could accept having a black man lead us from this last 8 years of disaster.

I may just read in this very thread that she is not a racist - that she is a good ol' gal who loves her country and just thinks Obama is an empty suit.

I fucking am saying it again. Middle class white America has a big problem with racism. Now go on, tell me all you people who have exhausted this argument over here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5873034 that the bedrock of this Republic was not built on the sweat and blood of our black brothers and sisters. That the lingering effects of owning people and forcing them into a life of HELL has all been erased and we are really just a tiny step from the finish line and able to sing koom by ya 'round the campfire. We are slowly inching toward a time and place where the sting of the whip on a mans back is just part of a history book but I am telling you it is fresh in the minds of people still today. If you do not think of "them" as human, you can steal their identity and their soul.

Fuck that horse shit.

Go ahead and tell me I am out of line or off base and that this shit isn't going on daily across this country. Go on. :rant:

[genna]

101. Come on dude

I would suggest that you think about what you are saying here.

Racism is a problem in America. 15 to 19% of those Hillary PA voters said they would not vote for Obama because he was black.

But the way you are putting this argument together, misses the fact that Obama, that black man, has won STATES where there are few blacks. Are you saying they have the same problem as this woman caller?

I have read some of these racially tinged posts coming from Hillary supporters and have cringed.

This campaign has made me have hope that the American dream will apply to us all equally FINALLY. The fact that Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama actually voted FOR OBAMA in a primary is a HALLALUJAH moment in and of itself. He almost was able to figure out how to win Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. It took nonblack voters choosing to cast that vote together with blacks in order to achieve that result.

We are not a race neutral country. Did you see the frame used to cover that flap over Rev. Wright? But we also aren't acting like the 1968 Democratic party EITHER.

As I watched some voters come to accept the fact that this country might have Obama as their president, I've been more proud at the outpouring of love than I have been angry at the amount of hate. Up until this point, I never thought an Obama candidacy was possible.

[Lucky 13]

42. Ugh. Fuck off and good riddance.

When my candidate(s) dropped out of the 2004 election, I wasn't thrilled with my remaining options. But you work with what you got and I immediately threw my support behind Kerry and got to work.

When my candidate dropped out of this year's primary, I didn't throw a fucking temper tantrum. I looked at the remaining options and decided who would be the best candidate for the progressive issues I care about and got on board. What's done is done and the most important thing is getting a Dem in the White House - so Obama's my guy... and I've come to love the guy and deeply respect him

If someone is able to work to elect John McCain - after all we've been through in the past 8 years, after all the death and destruction in Iraq, after the economy tanking, after NCLB, after the systematic roll back of environmental regulations, after decades of corporate greed - if they can work to elect McCain and still look themselves in the mirror, they truly have a blackened soul and I don't want any association with them in any way, party or otherwise.

These bitter old sad delusional people who will sacrifice the good of the nation and their own progressive values for the impossible dream of a washed-up, pathetic, race-baiting, BEAST of a candidate can go fuck themselves. I don't want anything to do with them and the sooner they announce their departure from the party, the sooner we know who the real enemy is in the fall.

[WinkyDink]

45. Like you know how true that caller was? PLEASE.

[Thrill]

50. Oh well. This is why his new coalition of new voters. Have to cancel out the Racist

[whatchamacallit]

52. There's a lot of her on this board

[jenmito]

53. And I'm going to call Rush saying I'm a life-long Repub. who will work hard to get Obama elected

because of Rush's "Operation Chaos" BS. Anyone can call in and say anything. I don't believe that caller was a Dem. for 40 years.

[Faygo Kid]

54. I can only tell you what I heard. I think she was sincere.

Ed Schultz did, too - and so did subsequent callers. I can't vouch for the truthfulness of any aspect of the call, of course, but aspects of it rang true. There's some manifestations of it here today, as well (see: indimuse's post).

[jenmito]

65. I don't doubt you. I doubt the caller.

:hi:

[ObamaKerryDem]

69. You should totally do that! LMAO...

Would be hillarious. :D

[jenmito]

102. I think if I called Rush and actually spoke to him...

I'd throw up a little in my mouth. I don't know if it would be worth it.

[Hippo_Tron]

60. I'd bet $100 bucks this woman isn't really a Hillary supporter

[olkaz]

71. I would take that bet.

That type of thinking is all over the Hilarati blogosphere right now.

[Marrah_G]

63. And you believed that story? Think logically, it makes no sense

It was a republican stirring up crap.

[Faygo Kid]

70. I believe she was sincere, but I agree it made no sense.

Ed was on the receiving end, and he believed it was sincere, too.

And that it made no sense, but it does reflect a fraction of Hillary supporters' anger.

Like I said, you can find it on other websites; only rarely here.

[Marrah_G]

76. I don't know. I take those things with a gain of salt.

I truly believe most Dems will get behind whichever one wins. How passionately they get behind the candidate is the question now.

[baldguy]

64. part of the 5%

[ObamaKerryDem]

68. Must be a Dem in name only...

God, even though I'm pissed at Hillary at the moment, I'd still be willing to bury the hatchet if she were (distant scenario it looks like now, but still..) the nominee. And even if I wasn't, I'd just sit it out or vote 3rd party or something (yeah I know that hurts too, but still...at least in principal, it's not like voting for McCAIN..). I'd NEVER vote for someone who would essentially serve out Bush's 3rd term. Never.

But as far as I'm concerned, there's no place for racists like this person in this party anyway....I think having supporters like that has ended up HURTING Hillary..

Lame.

[RiverStone]

87. Probably not even a DINO

Crazy idiots can say anything to a radio show host.

Anybody that prefers voting for Shrub 3 over Obama is not am Dem anyway. I can understand going 3rd party or simply sitting out the GE (if one is left with really hard feelings) - but I can't fathom voting for a war mongering puke. Ever!

[mod mom]

73. People can say anything on the radio. Probably a FAUX NEWS watcher trying to cause more havoc.

[Faygo Kid]

78. OK, but here's a couple of posts today on DU that reflect this phenomenon.

Visit these. And this is just on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5890394&mesg_id=5890394

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5889080

My question is valid. That caller was just a trigger.

[zulchzulu]

75. So she's backing ANOTHER LOSER...

If any of these asswipes get in my way... it's easy...

"So you were for the Iraq War after all! I guess you must secretly be Pro-Life!" I'd love to run into people like her in the streets. It would good fun watching someone melt with stupidity.

[WA98296]

80. Dem for 40 years...was it Hillary calling, or someone from her campaign?

[Occam Bandage]

83. Man. Seems like Hillary inspires some evil shit in people.

[Faygo Kid]

105. I don't think it's evil. I think it's resentment.

She has stirred up some bad things, for sure, but now it's the flip side.

She has to decide how far she will go, and how far she will ask her supporters to go. I am worried about Bill. I think his political instincts say get out now, but she keeps sending him out on the campaign trail.

He looks exhausted, and older than his age, when once he looked fresher than his age.

I'm worried about Bill.

[workinclasszero]

86. Hopefully Hillary's loss will purge the Dem party of all

white racists. They will go home to the thug party where they belong.

Obama and his party don't need the knuckle dragging KKK'ers anyway. They and their evil party are a dyin breed thank God.

[faithfulcitizen]

88. Until Hillary gets out there and campaigns for Obama (rather than McCain) we're going to see this.

Hillary herself is the one tauting McCain's strengths. So, until she comes out and actively campaigns for Obama, a lot of Hillary supporters will make all kinds of excuses for not voting for him, racist and otherwise.

[nomorewhopper]

90. its women like this who make...

..the rest of us look like emotional, unsound, incompetent morons

[redqueen]

91. I'm choosing to believe that that was a republican troublemaker.

*sigh*

[Faygo Kid]

98. Check my posts 54, 70 and 78.

Wish you were right here.

Guessing you are not.

[knixphan]

93. she wasn't a real Dem for those 40 years...

That's my take.

Dems aren't bigots.

[madrchsod]

96. there`s a republican to take her place.....

[GoneOffShore]

97. The Dixiecrats are back

with a vengeance.

Extraordinary the hatred that people have that surfaces.

I think back to my mother, who was from the South, and how, although she talked about "Jewish people" and "negras", ended up supporting the Democratic Party with little tiny checks that she hid from my dad. She and he taught me that skin color wasn't important. That race wasn't important. That religion wasn't important (although she never would have said that).

I would like to think that if she were alive today, she and my father would be pulling the lever for Obama. My dad would have issues, but only because of the D after the name, but I think he would see McCain as the fascist he is and do the right thing.

And if they had died in Philadelphia ten years ago instead of Delaware, they would have voted in the last ten elections and would vote in this one.

[Beacool]

99. He's not the only one.

I've heard from people who are changing their registration to Independent and decided to leave the party. I won't go that far because I still want to be able to vote for other candidates in the primaries, but I was sorely tempted to join them.

As soon as Hillary gives her concession speech, I'll limit my involvement to helping my local and state candidates. Not a penny of my money nor a minute of my time is going toward the GE.

[Faygo Kid]

103. It was she, not he. And I'm sorry to hear this. At least, I hope you will vote your interests.

I hope you condemn AND reject the racist statements of the caller.

As for the rest, wait till John McCain pisses you off, and Hillary backs Barack 100%. Just keep your options open.

It's May.

[Beacool]

104. Hillary will do what she has to do.

That doesn't mean that her supporters will vote in mass for Obama.

[Faygo Kid]

106. That doesn't address the post you respond to. Plus, a correction.

It's en masse. But, whatever.

I'm relaxed. And ready to take on McCain. Plenty of time for Hillary supporters to listen to what's coming and what's promised by McCain and his backers. Hell, he's already talked about the Supreme Court. And that's not the America any of us want.

But like I said, I'm relaxed.

[RBInMaine]

107. Anyone who votes for McCain has blood on his or her hands. Period.

[laughingharder]

110. you didn't even say the name of the "Hillary backer"

Perhaps because nobody knows this backer and she/he isn't representative of "Hillar backers" in general?

[TragedyandHope]

111. the desire to live "the black experience"

WHAT is she smoking and where can I get some?

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[babylonsister]

112. Wow. So the 'illegal occupation', healthcare, the economy and

the admin, all vast problems the next prez will have to deal with, are trumped by the color of someone's skin. That's so very sad. And yes, ignorant.

[zulchzulu]

113. McCain slogan: Ladies, this coat hanger is for you!

Would this woman like a aluminum coat hanger or a tin one. The tin is more bendable when you have to do those back alley abortions. You tell 'em, Johnny.

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[stratomagi]

114. Clearly this person is too old to worry about the right to choose

in fact she was probably content with the times where a coat hanger was one of the few options. But yeah she totally nailed it, I'm voting for Obama out of guilt even though I got off the boat in 1983 from Romania and didn't have shit to do with keeping the black man down...oh and I would totally like to get next years tax refund in the form of a diamond studded grill.