Hillary Implies that Barack Supporters are Lazy Brown People and Snooty White People

[demwing]

Get a load of this crap...

"...Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans--white Americans--is weakening again, and how the whites in both states
who had not completed college were supporting me..."

And Obama supporters are supposed to think that he can't win without this as his VP?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfidftLe5Z0

[AllentownJake]

1. There are no states

with large AA groups...at this point it isn't about winning...its about getting revenge for losing.

She can keep that up...her microphone is going to be taken away if she does.

[grasswire]

7. hmmm...and who is going to deny her right to free speech?

That doesn't portend well for an Obama administration. Silencing critics and opponents?

[Occam Bandage]

15. Nobody will take away her right to free speech. We can, however, take away her microphone

and podium. The Democratic party doesn't need to give a platform to every deluded race-baiting also-ran.

[grasswire]

34. you don't speak for the Democratic Party

Virtually half support Hillary. Some haven't even voted yet.

These fascist-leaning remarks sure aren't going to help Obama unite the party.

[demwing]

17. Actually, no one is silencing her! I'm broadcasting her insane rhetoric

So that everyone hears it and know who she is.

[AllentownJake]

19. She can say whatever she wants

However it will not be as a potential nominee for the Presidency.

It will be as the Senator from NY.

[democrattotheend]

2. To be fair, there is another way to interpret her statement

I don't like the sound of the statement above, but there are multiple ways to interpret it. It looks like she might have said "hard working Americans" and then clarified "white Americans" to make it clear that she WASN'T saying that blacks don't work hard. If she had said "support among hard working Americans" and NOT added "white Americans", it would have implied that his black supporters are not hard-working Americans.

The statement was tacky, but the way I first read it was the way I described above. I can't listen to the audio because I am at work, so someone who can should check and see if it sounded like she interjected "white" to clarify.

[Texas Hill Country]

3. i would interpret the same way.

[TwilightGardener]

4. You try way too hard to be fair all the time. You sound so goddamn wimpy.

[democrattotheend]

22. I tend to see both sides of most issues. People hate me for it.

But it's one of the reasons I find Obama so appealing. He is generally progressive but has the tendency to want to hear all sides of an issue and often seems to genuinely sympathize with both points of view, and to sympathize with an opposing point even if he doesn't agree with it.

I'm the same way and sometimes it drives people crazy. My best friend will complain to me about another friend and will want me to get all indignant on her behalf and I'll try to see her friend's point of view as well as hers and it drives her nuts. But I think it's a good quality that has served me well for the most part, and I think it will serve Barack well as president.

So I won't apologize for not being an unapologetic Clinton hater or for trying to see her side. That doesn't mean I have never gotten riled up and said bad things about her...I was furious when I saw her ad in PA calling Obama out of touch and I admit that I got sucked into the Mickey Kantor thing last week because I was desperate for a Clinton scandal that would get the media to shut up about Reverend Wright. But I am ashamed of my behavior last week and I think that's why I am being more cautious before jumping on Clinton for her statement today.

That being said, her statement was tacky, and I do feel that she for some time now has essentially been making the argument to superdelegates, implictly if not explictly, that she's more "electable" because she's white. Even if she's right that some people won't vote for Obama because he's black, I don't think that justifies taking away from him what he's rightly earned at this point. Instead of trying to convince superdelegates that he's unelectable, at this point she should be helping to ensure that he's electable by encouraging her supporters to support him if he's the nominee. She has started doing that a little bit, and I hope to see a lot more of that language in the next few weeks, whether or not she stays in the race.

[TwilightGardener]

24. Sometimes it's good to just get fucking angry when someone does something terrible--

and Hillary deliberately injecting race into the campaign, at this late date, for self-serving reasons, should make any Obama supporter see RED right now. She's trying to ensure his loss in the fall to McCain, by making him unappealing to certain classes (he's an elitist!) and to whites. She doesn't deserve to be in the Dem party.

[democrattotheend]

28. I'm not saying I'm not angry about her statement

I just don't necessarily think she meant that black people don't work hard. But it was an offensive statement either way.

[NashVegas]

36. Thanks for the Benefit of the Doubt

I thought it was kind of odd, but am also at the attitude point where, if HC wants to go all cynical, she should have at it.

[demwing]

38. It is a different interpretation, but is it a correct one?

Hillary is clearly trying to find the right words, but why? If she wanted to, she could have said "working class white Americans." That would have been factual, direct, and simple to understand.

I', taking her comment in the greater context developed by the interview, and in related comments by her staff and supporters.

[ShortnFiery]

5. It's just VILE! Where are the superdelegates to stop the bleeding?!? eom

[Bad Thoughts]

6. Can I be both?

I'm a Jew-boy to boot!

[Shae]

8. Can she win reelection to the senate

without the black vote? Because if not, she's serving her last term.

[NJmaverick]

9. Her supporter called us all "eggheads and African Americans"

[TwilightGardener]

10. What a fucking sick crew. They're actively hurting the party AND the country now.

[NJmaverick]

14. One could argue that they already were, now it's just less subtle

[cliffordu]

11. WELL, well, well.....Another Imus moment....

She needs to get a grip.

And if you call me snooty I'll put down my Gruyere and Arugula sandwich and kick your a**....


:rofl: :rofl:

[TragedyandHope]

12. Sounds suspiciously like "We cannot win with Eggheads and African Americans"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM6GEx3ai88

[SoonerPride]

18. That's what I thought. I've heard this before from the Clinton camp

They suck

[demwing]

20. But the ante has been upped - now its eggheads and lazy non-whites

And the Queen of Peace is rapidly becoming the Queen of Mean.

You know, Hillary is really vetting herself through this process. The heat is on, and she's melting fast.

[Jersey Devil]

13. I hope the AA people of NY are listening to this shit

and filing it for future use when she decides to run for Senate or Governor. Annie Oakley the newly minted Dixiecrat appealing to the Deliverance vote. She is batshit crazy.

[BattyDem]

16. My family is white, working class and we all support Obama ...

so FUCK HER! :grr:

[peacebird]

21. when did she say this?

[SoonerPride]

23. link HERE (also audio) these words came from HER LIPS

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/

Update at 8:45 a.m. ET: The political blogosphere -- particularly the liberal side -- is starting to react to Clinton's comments. Pam Spaulding at Pam's House Blend calls Clinton's words "race-baiting." ELROD at The Moderate Voice says it was "an appalling gaffe that goes well beyond (Barack Obama's) Bittergate comment." The Jed Report writes that "Clinton is making these comments to get attention. Her campaign is broke and she needs free media. She knows that the press loves to cover conflict, especially this kind of conflict. She's serving up raw meat on a platter, consequences be damned." Memeorandum has more links.

Update at 10:55 a.m. ET: Jerome Armstrong at the liberal MyDD.com thinks Clinton's comments were benign as far as race goes, but many of the commenters at his site apparently disagree.

[peacebird]

35. Absolutely disgusting. And SHE is running as a Democrat? What a disgrace...

[OneSelf]

25. Has she come unhinged?

This is out of control!

[demwing]

26. Well double f#cking no way Hillary gets the VP Spot

To hell with her and her scorched-earth-obliteration srategy. Get the hell outta Dodge!

[TragedyandHope]

27. It's mind-blowing

Hillary can't get over reflexive, compulsive projection and she doesn't see how it's hurting her.

Hillary herself is an elitist egghead. Personally, I don't take that as a negative nor do I hold that against her. She's wealthy, powerful, well-educated and smart as a whip, but one side of her personality or ego seems to be winning the battle against rationality.

At this point, she seems truly unwell.

I'm waiting for the Angry Egghead backlash.

[pansypoo53219]

29. let's cxhange this to a 'positive'

hillary has the STUPID RACIST VOTE + her fembots.

[enid602]

30. ????

But who's doing better among 'typical' white folks?

[npincus]

31. I'm a lazy white person for Obama!

[Melinda]

32. I'm an Obama supporter & without reading the article she cites, I see nothing to this, period.

I heard her citing an Associated Press article... do you have a link to the article? Is what she is saying taken out of context? If she is factually stating demographic stats from the AP, how is she implying what you claim?

Sorry, but the information provided is simply not enough to arrive at an implication, much less a conclusion.

More info, please.

[longship]

33. Dispicable rhetoric

What a crock of poo-poo.

What will this meddlesome Senator say next to damage the likely Democratic nominee?

[EffieBlack]

37. Imagine if the numbers were reversed, and Obama were running around saying

that he was not dropping out because black voters would never vote for Hillary in the fall.

Can you IMAGINE what folks would be doing to him right now? (Hint: They would not be calling him a "Fighter")