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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:20 PM
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HILLARY SHOULD NOT DROP OUT!
I support Barack Obama and I have been frustrated by the fact that Hillary doesn't’t seem to see the writing on the wall. I feel that her tactics have been desperate and that Bill Clinton‘s image is more tarnished then ever. I am rethinking my position.

I don’t believe Hillary should quit. I believe we can benefit by letting the process run it’s course. We are so close to the end now and there are people who will feel left out if they don’t get to vote and be a part of the selection process. I believe that even Obamaites will feel a let down.

There is an article on the MSN home page about super delegates and the reason they are not inclined to commit. They don’t want to be forced to abandon the half of their constituency that wants Hillary or Obama.

I think we can learn from this. I think that if the rhetoric is toned down a little and both candidates run on their platforms and against the Republicans first this could be a win/win situation.

We have two brilliant candidates. One is my choice. Both can help define our focus and our future.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:21 PM
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1. Run against the Republicans!
I'm in!

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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:23 PM
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2. yes she should
I use to love her...I can't stand the sound of her voice.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:38 PM
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14. I was for Obama before I decided to be against him.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 06:46 PM by Mags
I still Love Hillary and hope she goes to the convention.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:28 PM
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3. The last primary is less than a month away.
Assuming that Clinton won't be as negative for the next few weeks, then I really don't have a problem with her staying in.

Although that is a pretty big caveat.
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:20 PM
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25. that is pretty funny... assuming she doesn't go negative!
you mean she has not gone negative yet?

What else does she have? More tax holidays?

Is she going to come out with a new "save the world" plan and everyone is going to switch?

Reality is a bitch.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:29 PM
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4. Clinton is not going to drop till atleast June 3.
So we mise well forget about a quick exit! We need to get to work and help Obama get more victories and reduce Clinton victories!

PLEASE phonebank!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:30 PM
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5. So one of your reasons to keep spending money against each other and not
concentrating on McSame is, "there are people who will feel left out if they don’t get to vote and be a part of the selection process." I hate to break it to you but there will always people that will feel left out. That is our system. I live in Washington (no the state) and we always are left out of presidential elections. Most are decided before we even vote. Sorry, not a good enough reason to keep up the terrible sniping by Sen Clinton.

She should be the bigger person and bow out gracefully. But not her style.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:30 PM
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6. Have you got some smelling salts?
I think I'm going to pass out.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:30 PM
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7. I think you have hit on one truth. There are just a few states left
and they will definitely feel cheated if they don't get to vote at this point. Thom Hartmann was talking about that today. He is looking forward to Oregon's primary.

In fact, one of the best things about this campaign is that it has pushed a lot of states into the limelight as the process has unfolded. I don't recall ever looking at Indiana's primary results before.

If nothing else, it proves that we need to rotate the early primaries, so we don't have to base it all on what they want in Iowa.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:31 PM
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8. Drumbeat 24/7, failed Republican policies.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:33 PM
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9. No offense
Edited on Wed May-07-08 06:34 PM by Jake3463
and I'm all for party building

However other than Oregon....what state is important for the GE to carry?

and Puerto Rico? They don't even vote in the GE.

Nope we can end this now.

Strategy wise...this ended in NC.

Why waste money?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:35 PM
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11. Strategy wise...this ended in Texas
The rest has been one, long annoyance.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:37 PM
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13. Registering Democrats
In PA, NC, and Indiana was helpful.

PA is a swing state and Indiana and NC have govenor races that a dem might be able to take.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:55 PM
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19. I stand corrected...
The registering of voters has been extremely important.

Now if the candidates only could have accomplished that without quite so much, "You're One, What Am I?" that would have been even better!
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Stagecoach Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:34 PM
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10. Agreed
At this point, I don't see what it would hurt to let the remaining primaries take place. There's only 6 or so states remaining. It's most likely they won't change the eventual nominee. At least this way, a person can't say that all 50 states (and D.C, Puerto Rico, Guam, etc.) didn't have a voice in the process.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:37 PM
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12. Rush Limpballz wants her to stay in the race too. How nice.
:evilfrown:
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:48 PM
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15. How about BO's being a Democrat for a day deal, no different.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:49 PM
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16. Welcome Back
:hi:

It's over. I hope you'll rally around our nominee.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:55 PM
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18. been out of town with my sister in another state. Thanks for the welcome
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:56 PM
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20. I thought ignored was TS'd.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:00 PM
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23. He's just an idiot - no one cares what he thinks - in either party.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:53 PM
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17. Yeah, just because she has the lead in superdelegates and the popular vote...
why should we assume anything? :sarcasm:

Obama supporters have never had respect for the fact that a lot of people do support Clinton. They have always been patronizing. This came back to bite them on the ass, and notice how the DU noise brigade is ignoring Clinton's resounding victory in Indiana. Hell, they have been telling Clinton to drop out since the campaign began. The fact that Clinton leads in the popular vote means nothing to them. The fact that most of the people who cast ballots want to vote for her in the national election doesn't mean anything to them. Just the sheer nastiness of Obama supporters is reason enough to suspect them. Their reactions are so volatile and emotionally motivated--they don't belong in politics. What are they going to *do* with all these other people when the time comes to negotiate? Hope they don't vote?

Oh, and what kind of word is "doesn't’t"?
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:56 PM
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21. It is not about Obama or the Democratic party
She is about to be destroyed in the media and in history. She will be viewed as a loon who cannot see reality for what it is.

I don't want to see her when that happens, it is so sad now the state she is in after getting beat by a much better candidate.

Please Hillary for your own health and your family name open your eyes!
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:59 PM
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22. I'd rather see her go away, but I do admit I can see value to her staying in to finish the primaries
Barack has been building up his grassroots efforts and has tons of volunteers (his "precinct captains") ready to go in every state. We had thousands just in Houston alone. Not that Texas will go dem, but at least it will be closer than it's been in the past. There is real value in registering more new voters, harnessing all that energy, getting those people involved locally, and encouraging them to be involved with the DNC, and issues after the campaign. So, yes, I can see value in just letting it play out.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:00 PM
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24. Bullshit! Get the fucking HOOK! She is way BEYOND ... DROP OUT NOW!!! eom
Edited on Wed May-07-08 07:01 PM by ShortnFiery
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DMorgan Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:24 PM
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26. She should, we know that........but
Heck, Obama's campaign can deal with her hysteria.

Obama, running against a liberal former Prez, and his wife, AND against an American war hero......he seems to take this all in stride.

Now, we all want Hillary to leave, but she's just prolonging her death a few weeks. Let her do what she wants......Obama supporters are big enough to allow ANYONE to do their thing........

He knows Hillary is not the real problem, the REAL problem is the Bush/McCain absurdity and those people who still support it over a Black guy with a funny name.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:26 PM
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27. Every week she stays in is money and time away from attacking McCain, McCain made 7million just tod
ay in a fundraiser. We continue to spend money in a pissing contest.
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nyccitizen Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:27 PM
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28. As an Obama supporter, I agree, AS LONG AS...

She does not attack Obama. She can carry this through the end with dignity and end on a probable win (Puerto Rico) without tearing him down or using the Rovian tactics from the past few weeks. The upside will be that it will mobilize and register Democratic voters in the remaining states, some of which will be crucial in the General Election.

My guess is she'll behave herself. At this point she's playing for VP and knows scorched earth tactics will endanger that.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:27 PM
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29. All the other candidates who left the race didn't have the money
to loan to their campaigns. How much more is she willing to loan? If donations dry up, then what?

Even Romney who has many more millions than the Clintons saw the light.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:30 PM
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30. I agree with you..
I don't feel the urgency of her conceding, I do hope that any negativity stops, and everything is on the up and up. As long as that happens it benefits us that so many people feel truly involved this time. Stay in, let everyone vote, and no underhanded stuff, will just continue to grow our voter registrations.
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