Could Someone Please Explain To Me Why We Are Supposed To Be Gracious And...

[WillyT]

lay off of Hillary and her campaign\supporters???

Does she have a secret plan to bring the Democrats together ???

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

1. cause it would show you are a mature human being for starters.

[islandmkl]

...who would not resort to snide innuendos in responses.

[rodeodance]

33. what is snidy about the truth??

[hokies4ever]

54. You can't handle the truth

Hillary is finished. :rofl:

[Boz]

11. Typing kind of has a good start on that, At least shows dexterity.

The mature part you have to grow into and earn, Hillary Clinton is not doing that when it comes to being a Democrat.

She never learned her lesson from grade school.

It was just because she was a girl then too.

Some people never leave grade school and get stuck around third grade behavior.

Those that do, earn the right to be treated maturely. those that don't, get what they deserve.

We will be gracious when she stops throwing her tantrums, holding her breath until she gets what she wants.

Until then reap what you sow.

[baldguy]

2. Be gracious once she & her supporters gracefully acknowledge defeat.

Until then, keep whacking them in the head & once they're down drive a stake through their heart.

[onenote]

5. Many of them here have done exactly that.

[scheming daemons]

8. And we're gracious to those ones

[JVS]

40. They should either join in on the head thwacking or excuse themselves from the room while we finish

[JVS]

38. yup.

[rug]

45. "Whacking them in the head". Grow up.

[baldguy]

48. No gracious acknowledgment of defeat from you then, huh?

[rug]

53. You've been watching too many gladiator movies, dude.

This is a political election.

[NewHampshireDem]

3. No, but in the event that she does win the nomination

they have a secret plan to go over to Freeperville and convince them to go easy on her. :yoiks:

[onenote]

4. Because our candidate is about change. Not the old style take no prisoners politics

Its one of the things that attracted me to Obama and I'm not about to suddenly turn into the opposite of what he stands for.

[LisaM]

10. LOLOL

Yeah, right.


With all of the hate Hillary crap I've read here today, I really believe that?

If he is really a candidate of hope and change, he would be inspiring a different breed of supporter.

[Cant trust em]

18. or perhaps it's something about Hillary that inspires such intense dislike

I do believe that Obama is a candidate of hope and change. But he's up against a candidate that has always had likeability problems, so it's not surprising that she isn't liked here either. DU is my only access to the blogosphere, but I suspect that there is a type of anonymity bravado that goes on here. Obama supporters I've met in the real world are not like this.

[NewHampshireDem]

19. Talk about sounding like a troll

That's the same old smear that the RW has used against DEMOCRATS for years. That we somehow don't live up to our ideals, that we can't be progressives if we don't X. Well, I for one do not let the Right Wing define what it means to be a DEMOCRAT and I do not think it is your place to define what it means to be an Obama supporter.

[onenote]

21. I have said consistently that I would support HRC if she was the nominee

The fact that anonymous posters on an internet website act like children sometimes isn't a reflection of the candidate. My 93 year old father and his 91 year old lady friend are both HRC supporters; my wife and I are Obama supporters. We discuss the campaign civilly and without rancor.
On this site however, I've been called all sorts of names -- and by Obama supporters who think I am not righteous enough in my opposition to HRC and by HRC supporters who think I'm some sort of tool for supporting Obama.

[scheming daemons]

6. I'm gracious to any Clinton supporter who admits defeat. I'll be gracious to HRC when she does....

[KitchenWitch]

7. Because, although difficult, taking the high road is in itself its own reward.

[TexasObserver]

9. It's in our self interest to do so. We ain't doin' it for them, but for us.

It's their job to roll over and show signs of submission, after having lost, and it's our job to accept that signal of concession. The problem is some of them are not ready to roll over. They are still showing their teeth, and that means more scent marking and growling by our side until they do.

Simple pack animal dynamic.

[FlyingSquirrel]

14. That may be one of the best posts describing GDP that I've ever seen.

[The Night Owl]

34. As I suspected, the apology you posted earlier was a bunch of bullshit.

In the span of one day, you have gone from rightly apologizing for being rude to Clinton supporters to lauding a post which describes them as animals which need to be forced into submission.

:yoiks:

[FlyingSquirrel]

49. No dude, you totally didn't get it. I was saying that GDP is pack mentality at this point.

NOT that anyone should really be acting that way.

[The Night Owl]

50. Okay. I apologize. I thought you were praising TO for comparing Clinton supporters to animals. {EOM}

[redqueen]

15. Spot on. (nt)

[TexasObserver]

26. Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, and National Geographic RULE!!

Whiskers!!

Flower was my favorite. Mom was all business.

[The Night Owl]

30. COMPARING HUMAN BEINGS TO ANIMALS! YOU ARE CLASSY!

[gravity]

12. We can't win the GE without Clinton supporters

People are emotionally attached to these campaigns and it takes time for people to get over them. Attacking Hillary's side now will just make this process worst, and it will just make the general election harder.

[Lucky 13]

13. Explain to me why they continue their fight, but we have to stop ours?

[4themind]

16. She may not, but some of us want to start it on our own

from the "grassroots" level so to speak, that's been the theme of obama's campaign, and the way we should move forward to bring more people into it, and yes DU is a part of that netroots/grassroots IMP. We know that we will need support from the clinton side and some of us are tired of waiting for her, to conceed, if we can bring more to our side, it won't matter if she's the only one still standing when the music stops, and she has the free choice as to whether she wants to join as well. But I'll do my part by BEING the change that obama is asking for, changing the tone HERE, like he wants to change the tone in washington, and yes there are times whenI've failed at this in the past, but now seems as good a time as any to do my small little part to bring the party together.

[Catherina]

17. I wouldn't recommend being gracious to anyone still hurling invectives

but all Clinton supporters who are being gracious, either in defeat or even in supporting her, deserve to be respected. OTOH, the loudmouth, asshole, war shills who have a bizarre affinity for McCain and have problems being just another color in a Benneton world deserve only scorn.

Full grace can come when Clinton sets the tone by acting with graciousness towards the nominee, the voters and the DNC.

As long as she's out there mercilessly whacking knees and hurting the party, she deserves no mercy.

[Orsino]

20. In order to lead. For the sake of change.

The usual election year vindictiveness isn't very pretty, is it?

[WillyT]

22. So... What Exactly Is Her Resposibility To The Democratic Party ???

:shrug:

[Orsino]

51. The same. n/t

[searchingforlight]

23. Because our candidate is a uniter not George Bush

[emilyg]

24. You're supposed to be gracious

because you're a human being interacting with other human beings.

[Bucky]

32. Thank you.

Jeeeze, when did "gracious" become something we have to justify?

Can someone please tell me why I shouldn't kick my neighbor's dog?

[JVS]

42. Why be gracious when you can be a "fighter", which is the most exalted a human can be!

[Bucky]

43. For what it's worth JVS, after the game is over you get to quit scoring touchdowns.

You can run around holding that ball of yours all you like; the game is still over.

[JVS]

46. nothing is over yet

it should/could be, but it isn't

[Raine]

25. I take my cue from them...

when they are civil I return the favor but if they give me crap they get it back.

[Cosmocat]

28. You might want to take your cue from BO ...

Notice how he gave the Indiana call to Hillary last night during his NC speech, while the networks still gave him a fighting chance ??? And, how he spoke about her in general then, and 99 percent of the time this campaign ...

Hill got on my LAST nerve a LONG time ago ...

But, with the MSM FINALLY calling it for BO, it is over ... Follow BOs lead, he is secure and magnanimous enough to let her have a soft landing, so should every other democrat ... HE needs it, he needs her to land softly, IF she will allow it, to help ensure he has her supporters on board to make sure McCain does not get the white house ...

Long view ...

[varelse]

27. She isn't responsible for YOUR divisive actions

YOU are. If YOU want your Democratic nominee to win the General Election, YOU can best serve this goal by being gracious and respectful of all your fellow Democrats, Hillary and her supporters included. You'd be following her example if you did so. Hillary has already said that she will work to get her rival elected in the GE, if the party nominates him.

That is why it is being suggested that Obama supporters behave graciously.

[Jamastiene]

29. Because we aren't the fucking enemies,

for starters. You keep going with the hate-fest though, and that may all change.

[NorthernSpy]

35. No, only some of you are.

I remind myself of that often.

[Bucky]

31. Because (1) you're supporting a candidate who's campaigning on unity, and (2)...

... you don't want to be dick.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

36. How about you just treat people the way you'd appreciate

being treated 'if the shoe was on the other foot'.

[Bensthename]

37. Because it is a good thing to continue to spend money on this campaign while McCain

continues to raise money for the gen election. He made 7 million just today..

No this shit needs to end now.

Staying in any longer is a waist of time and resources.

[MonkeyFunk]

39. No one expects you guys to be gracious

I expect you to continue being the same assholes you've been all along.

[crankychatter]

41. You have to drop your guard to make it easier to get kicked in the nads

not joking, that is really why

[gcomeau]

44. Because we're grown-ups. -nt

[knight_of_the_star]

47. Because we're going to need every Democrat we can use for November

Even with the GOP down and on the ropes they're still not out and we're going to have to pull out all the stops to cream them. Certainly some of Hillary's campaign staff aren't needed but you do need the activists, the rank and file, and the voters and supporters for any kind of major election campaign to succeed. These are people who make up a large chunk of the Democratic Party, if you want to run with a divided, half-hearted effort then you deserve the defeat that will result.

[Enrique]

52. it won't be secret

she'll be publicly helping Obama beat McCain. You can do what you want.

[LWolf]

55. I don't know about HRC and her supporters,

since I'm not one of them. I do know, though, that your post illustrates that Obama, and his supporters, don't exactly have "bringing Democrats together" as a high priority.