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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:02 PM
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False hope vs. no hope
Election 2008 in a nutshell.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:02 PM
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1. whats the GE?
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:52 PM
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10. nuttshell versus death ? lol n/t
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:03 PM
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2. Obama vs has beens
Election 2008 in a message board
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:07 PM
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3. What False hope? Please elaborate on your Op.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:43 PM
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5. Hope can not be simplified with bumper sticker slogans like "Yes We Can" n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:53 PM
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11. Never actually listened to an Obama speech, have you?
Nobody ever said it's as simple as a bumpersticker.

Hope vs. pre-literate cynicism.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:04 PM
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14. "pre-literate cyncism"
That may be the most perfect description I've read yet of the knee-jerk criticism of Obama's message. :thumbsup:
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:08 PM
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15. Enough of them to know I don't like or trust him.
As is my right, believe it or not.

I don't give a damn if he can talk well. And in my opinion, his oratory skills only seem to stand out when he speaks to large crowds. Whenever he speaks to only one or a few people, you get a lot of "uhhh" and "ummms".
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:09 PM
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18. Zero, in other words.
Yes, BS, you're perfectly welcome to be ignorant.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:13 PM
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19. Ignorant because I don't see what you see
You BO supporters sure do like to talk down to people a lot.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:18 PM
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21. Only to people who deserve it.
It's not our fault you've just made a fool of yourself.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:24 PM
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23. Which would be anybody who doesn't think Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread
And I really don't give a damn what you think of me.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:25 PM
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24. If that's what you've got to say to convince yourself.
Frankly, now that he's the presumptive nominee, I've got no problem saying that anybody not supporting him in the GE is a worthless piece of shit.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:29 PM
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26. I said I'd vote for him, didn't I?
But that's it. I have every right to not care for him whether you fucking like it or not.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:29 PM
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27. Yeah, but I don't believe you.
:shrug:
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:31 PM
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28. Then you would be wrong n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:33 PM
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29. You pretend to support him, then naively attack his message.
You're not particularly subtle, BS.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:35 PM
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30. I don't support him as I don't believe in his message
I'll just vote for him because the prospects of a McCain presidency horrify me. There's a difference.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:08 PM
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16. Here's a clue: A Bookmark is NOT a Book
In many, many areas of study (e.g. philosophies) there are phrases and labels that themselves do NOT convey understanding but, for those who've invested the effort to gain that understanding, offer a reminder or an anchor for part of the lesson. It is delusional to infer otherwise. Slogans are NEVER a substitute for in-depth study - and are not intended to be.
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washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:09 PM
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17. Great post.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:14 PM
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4. Yeah, what false hope??
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:43 PM
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6. bitter edwards supporter vs. reality
:rofl:
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:46 PM
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7. Your reality perhaps n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:51 PM
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8. well in january we can all hop into santa's sleigh with the easter bunny and tooth fairy and attend
smoove johnny's inauguration, which will take place in a giant shoe...
:eyes:
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:55 PM
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12. Please tell me where I said Edwards would be president
Are you deliberately lying or just delusional?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:01 PM
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13. We're sorry that you're so "bitter" you need to "cling" to Edwards.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:14 PM
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20. I'll vote for Obama in November but other than that he'll get no support from me n/t
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:28 PM
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25. You dropped this
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 09:51 AM
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31. OH SNAP
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:52 PM
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9. "In the unlikely story of America there's never been anything false about hope"
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:22 PM
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22. :puke:
Just sad.

David
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