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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:29 PM
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The Party Of Operation Chaos
Edited on Wed May-07-08 07:25 PM by EarlG
This "Operation Chaos" scheme by Rush Limbaugh is pure genius, a guaranteed winner. It fits perfectly into the media's campaign narrative. Meanwhile both sets of candidate supporters are propping up Lardbutt's plot: Clinton supporters want people to believe that they're stronger than Obama against these kind of right-wing attacks, and Obama supporters want people to believe that the dittohead army are the only ones voting for Clinton. Who wins?



That's right: Captain Ass-Boil.

So stop worrying about Rush Limbaugh, and ask yourself this question:

Is this the best they've got? "Operation Chaos"?

81% of Americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, Bush has the highest disapproval rating of any president since records began, Iraq is going nowhere, and the economy is going down the drain. And the considered, adult, conservative approach to this sorry situation is... "Operation Chaos." Yeehaw!

Funny thing though...

"Operation Chaos" seems to have been the Republican approach to getting George W. Bush elected in 2000. "Operation Chaos" seems to have been the Republican approach to counter-terrorism before Sept. 11th, and the way they've run the Department of Homeland Security since. "Operation Chaos" seems to have been the Republican approach to dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. "Operation Chaos" seems to have been the Republican approach to the occupation of Iraq. And "Operation Chaos" seems to have been the Republican approach to the economy.

In fact, "Operation Chaos" seems to have been the Republican approach to governing in general.

So by all means, Rush, please keep on branding away...

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:32 PM
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1. Rush is on drugs again. Doesn't he have to take a piss test or something?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:44 PM
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14. Do you want to hold the little plastic cup?
Edited on Wed May-07-08 03:44 PM by nichomachus
I figured -- neither does anyone else. There are some jobs that even illegal immigrants won't do.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:45 PM
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16. LOL
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:03 AM
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72. Every once in a while,
someone has to stand up and take one for the team.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 10:58 AM
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87. REPUBLICANS DEPEND ON CHAOS, FEAR, AND UNCERTAINTY
Edited on Thu May-08-08 10:59 AM by YEBBA
THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE SINCE NIXON
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:38 AM
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62. Seriously you may have a point...
There's a grandiosity in his (for lack of a better term) 'thinking' which is waaaay off the 'normal' scale....
JMHO.

Of course, after 8 years of Captain "Cuckoobananas" Chucklenuts, the bar for non-rational thinking is set pretty damn low.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:34 PM
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2. K & R
:thumbsup:
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:35 PM
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3. when is rush going to unleash 'operation chaos' on a state..
that hillary is trailing in the polls??

keep it comin', oxyboy, keep it comin'....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:02 PM
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48. you obviously did not read the OP or have a reading comprehension problem.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:37 PM
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4. I was media blasting this on March 5 (after Ohio Primary):
I WONDER WHAT REAL EFFECT IT HAD ON THE NUMBERS SINCE THE MARCH 4 PRIMARY? HERE IS MY INITAL BLAST:

IMHO-Limbaugh's push to vote for Hillary is a calculated rovian ploy to influence


the Democratic primary w a candidate they believe they can beat. Think about it-he has detested Hillary in the past but would rather select her over an old, probably 1 term Republican that could be coupled with a VP who better reflects their goals? I say he is being disingenuous, and it doesn't pass the smell test. Then you add Bill Cunningham (southern Ohio RW radio) to the mix and voila a major cross-over push in Ohio to stop the momentum of a candidate they fear and promote a candidate who will bring out the Republican base and they believe they can beat.

McCain is the nominee so what would stop Republicans from this cross-over voting and effecting who they will run against?

Turned away at poll?
Some are told to wait - or come back later
BY JESSICA BROWN AND BARRETT J. BRUNSMAN | JLBROWN@ENQUIRER.COM | BBRUNSMAN@ENQUIRER.COM

-snip
In that heavily Republican county, officials weren't prepared for the high number of Democratic ballots requested. Some voters waited for more than an hour for new ballots to be delivered; others were asked to come back later or asked to go to the county Board of Elections to vote.

The reason: a wave of "crossover" voting, in which normally Republican voters asked for Democratic ballots. In Clermont County, turnout surged to 43 percent Tuesday - compared with just 31 percent in the 2004 presidential primary.

-snip

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said there was also a "crossover problem" in Akron and elsewhere in Summit County where many Republicans and non-enrolled Ohioans voted Democratic.

-snip

Of Clermont County's 128,128 registered voters, 37,714 are registered Republicans and 14,496 are registered Democrats. With all precincts counted, 26,279 people had cast Democratic ballots and 28,032 had cast Republican ballots.

Warren County has 12,440 registered Democrats and 41,377 registered Republicans. With all precincts reporting, that county was reporting 27,855 Democratic ballots cast and 28,683 Republican.

-snip
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NEWS01/803050380&template=printpicart




GOP voters crossing over in large numbers
Posted by Tom Ott, Michael Scott, Joe Wagner & Maggi Martin March 04, 2008 14:51PM
Categories: At the polls

Poll watchers throughout Ohio are noting large numbers of Republican voters crossing over to vote in the Democratic Primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

In the Republican roost of Chagrin Falls, veteran poll worker Liz McFadden was amazed at the number of people jumping the party's ship. Democrats accounted for 70 percent of the voters in her precinct, one of seven at the village's high school.

"That's a complete reversal of what it normally is, even more so," she said. "I've never seen a switch like this."

The defectors had motives both pure and sinister.

-snip
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/03/gop_voters_crossing_over_in_la.html

FROM OSU ELECTION LAW:

Cross-over voting under Ohio law

March 4, 2008

Edward B. Foley
Director, Election Law @ Moritz
Robert M. Duncan/Jones Day Designated Professor of Law
Moritz College of Law


Blogs at both the Plain Dealer and Dispatch are reporting Republican cross-over votes in the Democratic candidate for Senator Clinton on the ground that she would be an easier nominee for Senator McCain to beat. It is unclear how widespread this phenomenon is and whether, if calculable, could make a difference in either the statewide total popular vote or the awarding of delegates between Senators Clinton and Obama. There is also the question whether it is legal, and if not, whether it is remediable in any way.

Although it is widely reported that Ohio permits Republicans to vote in the Democratic primary (and vice versa), that is not technically true. Ohio law does permit voters to switch party affiliation on the day of the primary, but it has a rather awkward mechanism that attempts to ascertain that the switch is sincere—and to prevent insincere “party-raiding” of the kind that (as described above) is being reported today.

Section 3513.19 of the Ohio Revised Code states that it is the “duty” of poll workers in Ohio “to challenge the right of person to vote” in a particular party’s primary if a poll worker “doubts” the person’s eligibility based on the ground (among others) that the person is "not affiliated with or is not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote.” The same section further specifies that the poll worker is to determine the voter’s previous party affiliation by examining the voting records of the past two years. If those records show the voter to be a Republican, for example, then before giving the voter a Democratic ballot in the current primary, the statute then directs the poll worker to have the voter sign a “statement, made under penalty of election falsification, that the person desires to be affiliated with and supports the principles of the political party whose primary ballot the person desires to vote.”

This statement is supposed to be the test of the voter’s sincerity in switching party affiliation. Section 3513.20 of the Code make clear that a voter who refuses to sign the statement is to receive a provisional rather than regular ballot. Indeed, even if the voter is willing to sign the statement, but the majority of poll workers at the precinct believe the voter is not sincere in switching parties, then the poll workers are to give the voter a provisional rather than regular ballot.

-snip
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/freefair/articles.php?ID=367

From the Warren County BOE (Warren is a Republican stronghold outside of Cincinnati where the faux "Level 10 Homeland Security shutdown of the BOE occurred in 2004) web page and found that the democrats voted at 223% of the total Dems in the county. Some turnout!

BALLOTS CAST - TOTAL 57,396
REGISTERED VOTERS - DEMOCRATIC 12,440
REGISTERED VOTERS - REPUBLICAN 41,377
BALLOTS CAST - REPUBLICAN 28,683
BALLOTS CAST - DEMOCRATIC 27,855
source: warren county BOE http://snipurl.com/212z3

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/03/ballot_1.html

Board of Elections Director Jane Platten said Democratic ballots ran out at the Grantwood Golf Course in Solon at 6:15 p.m. "A significant line of people waited 45 minutes to vote," she said. Nobody was turned away, Platten said.

There also was up to a 30-minute delay at the Lonnie Burten Recreation Center, on East 46th Street, in Cleveland, while more ballots were delivered, Platten said.

At least one precinct at Olmsted Falls High School ran out of Democratic ballots, according to Keith Smith, 27. He said he waited about a half-hour before leaving to tend to his family.


Tuesday, March 4

Don't Call Ohio Too Soon
That's my advice to the news media tonight, in the event of a close Democratic primary. As returns start to come in from Ohio this evening, we should keep in mind circumstances that will probably result in more outstanding ballots on Election Night than in other states, and maybe even more than is typical for Ohio. If that's true, a margin that appears insurmountable on paper -- even with all precincts nominally reported -- may actually be smaller than it appears.

Here are the big things that might cause there to be a large number of yet-to-be-counted ballots than usual on election night:

- Provisional Ballots. Ohio heavily relies on provisional ballots, which are used for people who've moved, who don't have required ID, and whose names don't appear on the registration list when they go to vote, among other things. Most of us probably remember the delay in calling the 2004 election, when Bush led Kerry by some 136,000 votes with approximately 158,000 provisional ballots left to be verified and counted. When these ballots were eventually counted, they cut Bush's margin by about 18,000 votes. In November 2006, an even higher percentage of Ohio voters cast provisional ballots, over 3%. In light of Ohio's new ID rules, still not completely familiar to many voters, and potential problems with its statewide registration list, we can expect lots of provisionals today as well. Voters have 10 days after the election to bring in their information, and it will be a while after that before we know how many of the provisionals will be counted and who they're cast for.

- Residual Votes. These are ballots that don't register a valid vote, at least when they're run through automatic tabulators. They include undervotes (a ballot that doesn't register a choice) and overvotes (a ballot that registers more than the allowed number of choices). Both can sometimes result from ambiguous marks with paper-based voting systems, but some of the undervotes may be recoverable through a manual recount. Under Ohio law, a ballot on which a voter circles the candidates name or makes a mark with an instrument that can't be recognized by tabulating equiment should eventually be counted. As I explained in Sunday's post, we can expect a significant number of residual votes in Ohio today, because a large number of voters will be voting with central-count optical scan equipment that doesn't allow voters to check for mistakes before casting their votes. Cuyahoga County will be especially hard hit, but other counties will also be affected given that voters in touchscreen counties are allowed to vote a paper ballot on request. If the race winds up being tight, it will be important to know how many residual votes there are -- especially in the Cleveland area.

-SNIP
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/blogs/tokaji/2008/03/dont-call-ohio-too-soon.html
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:26 PM
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33. Thanks for all your involved work
on this, mod mom.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:03 PM
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58. I'm sick of Ohioans getting shafted on election results! BTW we still don't have the results
of the provisional ballots (# 126,443 of them!) from the March Primary yet:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/media/20080312.pdf
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:37 PM
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5. The illusion of size
or more accurately changeing the perception of your size to either (chiefly) ward off attack by making your enemy not even venture to attack because they think you are too large a force or too powerful. Also it lenda plausibility to whatever numbers get spit out by the voting machines.

But mostly this is just feeding fat-ass's ego

I don't buy any of it. Conservatives don't do this sort of thing-they do vote religously but they don't march or do anything else to effect the change that they are told to support.*

* The MinuteMen thing is a exception. And that completely blew up in the Republican party's power players faces-they were forced from inside their party to put or shut up and they cowered in the corner of the Chamber of Commerce's offices.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:38 PM
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6. Agreed, K & R
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:39 PM
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7. But there's t-shirts and bumper stickers...
decoder rings, deputy badges, and the chance to fuck with shit!

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:40 PM
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8. Hear Hear, Mr. Earl!
"More Wars! Less Jobs! McCain '08!
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:40 PM
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9. OH the irony
Facts will show, when all is said and done, that more republicans switched to Obama than voted for Hillary as their master bade of them.
Give him his day. It all happens in his special mind.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:41 PM
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10. Why the FCC and the FEC don't do something about this is beyond me.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:44 PM
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15. There is no FEC right now.
Only 3 people, and I think they need 8 to rule on anything.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:24 PM
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32. The are only two right now.
Obama has a Senate hold on the nominees so the Senate can't vote to fill the positions. Reap what you sow.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:54 PM
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41. They were holding the nominees because Bush refuses to put through
any Democrats for bipartisan appointments.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:33 AM
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75. Dems blocking FEC vote because
Bush wants ALL of his nominations confirmed by Senate, and one of those nominees is the infamous
Hans von Spastic-its-dy or what ever the hell his name is
who has a long history of disenfranchising voters.

Actually, Dems backbone on this issue sorta surprised me.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:47 AM
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93. That is a dead issue.
The Hans von guy was opposed because he supported the Georgia voter I.D. bill. The issue has now been settled when the Supreme Court approved the state voter I.D. laws. So it is a dead issue. The Democrats can continue to stall the vote but we can't complaint when the FEC does nothing in this election. Goes both ways.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:44 AM
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91. Not true. He has nominated 2 Democrats which is the legal number.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:49 PM
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17. They're tools for Operation Chaos, too. The OP is right - KEEP the Label on them
They certainly deserve it.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:28 AM
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70. IOKIYAR.
It's OK . . . If You're a Republican.

They get free passes for EVERYTHING. No one questions ANYthing they do. And if they do, they're brushed off as a "commie, blame-America-first loony leftist Conspiracy theorist", now . . .
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raebrek Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:34 AM
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71. This says it all.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:41 PM
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11. OH the irony
Facts will show, when all is said and done, that more republicans switched to Obama than voted for Hillary as their master bade of them.
Give him his day. It all happens in his special mind.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:24 PM
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99. There will be a much bigger irony than that.
There are a whole lot of Republicans who are seriously questioning their commitment to the GOP after 8 years of Bush.

While Limbaugh thought he was being cute, what he actually did was invite millions of republicans to see how it feels to pull the level on the Democratic side. And right about now, a fair percentage of them are saying, "You know, that didn't feel so bad after all." They won't all be with us in November, but when the final story is told, know that this is the election when millions of them came to our side, and many started the invitation at Rush's invitation.

We can't begin to thank you, Rush.

The law of unintended consequences strikes again.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:41 PM
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12. Honestly, I think the DU admins need to get together and give a statement on their
assessment of the race. It's almost certain Obama will be the nominee. It is certain that the Clinton campaign is generating a lot of noise and create confusion. I highly doubt if it were the other way around the DU admins would be so "neutral". Of course Operation Chaos is just more noise, but certainly doesn't help anything. The longer this goes on the worse it is for everyone on the left.

I implore you and your colleagues to come to some consensus on this and publish a statement.
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:05 PM
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26. Our previous statement on the situation still stands
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:21 PM
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31. The situation has evolved.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:32 PM
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36. you have to let every partisan realize it's over on their own schedule
Edited on Wed May-07-08 05:32 PM by TexasObserver
This is especially true when the candidate has not thrown in the towel. Before the candidate has thrown in the towel or been eliminated by delegate math, you can't expect the die hards to give it up. Even when the candidate does bow out, it takes a few days or weeks for people to come around.

When you've won, you don't have to rush that process. The wounded lick their wounds and find their way back, and not rubbing salt in their wounds makes their return easier.

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:43 PM
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13. The picture of all those Freepers going to the polls and voting for their hated Hitlery


For a dozen years they have been spewing vile hatred at her and now they are standing in line busting a gut in order to pull the Clinton lever.

How they must have hated it.

Makes me smile.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:04 PM
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43. If it actually happened
I would like to see some 911 call center logs located near voting centers.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:50 PM
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18. LOL Captain Ass-Boil
I agree, and apparently so does Newt.:thumbsup:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:51 PM
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19. Priceless! K/R (nt)
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:52 PM
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20. K&R. eom
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:53 PM
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21. Capt. Ass Boil!
:spray:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:54 PM
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22. Excellent. I agree!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:54 PM
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23. Captain Ass-Boil.
:rofl: I laughed so hard, the Oxicontin came out my nose.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:56 PM
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24. Like stock brokers moving the market
It was brilliant, in a seedy, butt-boil sort of way.

Ew.

Still, this is the tip of the iceberg. I think both Obama and Clinton supporters have had their hand in making the GOP very, very happy these days. They don't have to hurl one barb at anyone as long as they have us doing it ourselves.

Time to stop acting like Ditto-Heads, and unite behind our party! Stop throwing shit at each other and aim for McCain instead!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:57 PM
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25. Thank you for this.. I have been stating we are being played by
the Republican slime machine and we are falling for it by dividing our party...

There will be no victory without unity....



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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:40 PM
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27. Can we turn this into an ad and run it in the New York Times? On TV? nt
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:02 PM
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28. K&R
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:15 PM
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29. Time for a DU fundraiser - I want 6 of those as bumperstickers. nt
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:20 PM
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30. k&r
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:26 PM
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34. Yee-haw !!
Lasso that economy and bring it down to the ground like a championship calf-roper. Kick it while it's down and raise their arms in victory. You're right EarlG. This is what they do for entertainment. The Chaos Party? I'll bet they are all so proud of Rush?
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:28 PM
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35. best post yet! K & R
bumper stickers, we need them. Please post a link to that image, I can make them here at home, hand them out to friends, etc. Ah, how true it is!

BTW, just heard on CNN that Op Chaos might have brought in 5 K voter - maybe they said and that might be a stretch.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:33 PM
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37. And much of the continuing "chaos" is fulminating here on DU. We do have a presumptive nominee.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:35 PM
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38. Obama supporters, Any Chaos the repukes throw can be countered with getting out the vote
PLEASE Phonebank and please encourage people there to vote! It will ruin his plans!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:36 PM
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39. Here's a couple of examples: of Operation Chaos
"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order - order out of chaos. But we will."
George W. Bush

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
George W. Bush quotes


:thumbsup:EarlG, that's exactly their Game Plan from the very beginning of the Bush Regime/Cartel/Cabal. It's working out soooo well for them, for the rest of us, not so much.


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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:38 PM
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40. Is there an approximate number of Republicans who voted for Hillary
in Indiana yesterday?

Or is it likely we'll never find out?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:57 PM
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42. I love that graphic. I want to put it on a postcard and send it to every Republican I know. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:05 PM
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Ztarbod Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:11 PM
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45. The democratic party could eliminate 'operation chaos'
The party can exclude all nonmembers from voting in their primary according to the Supreme Court in California Democratic Party et al. v. Jones, Secretary of State of California, et al. However, the party chooses not to limit participation. Live with the results.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:12 PM
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46. Operation Chaos is overrated
Edited on Wed May-07-08 06:14 PM by Fighting Irish
I posted this in an earlier thread:

Limbaugh's listening audience is roughly 5-7% of the population. I would assume most are casual listeners. Of the die-hards, does anyone, particularly him, really think more than even 10-20% of his listeners will get up off their dead asses, take time away from work, family and "American Idol" to go all the way down to the polling place, stand in line and vote for a Democrat??? I don't think so.

Operation Chaos is overrated. Aside from a few FlavorAid-sipping nimrods who have anointed Fats Lowbrow as their own personal deity, most people don't really give a flying fuck.

I also find it rather telling that Ass Boil is so casual about ordering his lemmings to do things he's too lazy to do, such as instigating riots in Denver. If this fat fuck wants to get shit done, he should do it his own damn self!

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2008/05/rambling-about-rush-roseanne-radio-and.html
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:37 PM
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47. Rush Limbaugh knows
McCain has big problems Look ==>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEwDzZlXijE"> Opps! McSame is no serious candidate
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:14 PM
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55. what's the primary age demographic for his show?
I know his show trends male for that demographic. I wonder how the age thing shakes out. do you know?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 10:30 AM
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84. It is easy listening while cleaning your rifle after shooting at
what they thought was the turban of a terrorist in the in the field of corn...but turned out to be a platic bag w/Wal-Mart logo plastered on the side. Then taking another swig off the beer at one's side, they proceed to put a round through their foot...:D
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:44 AM
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92. He may have had an impact in IN
that's why I asked about the age demographics. Obama carried 87% of the vote for everyone under the age of 65. Dan Burton noted low republican turn-out in his primary race...ultimately it didn't matter b/c, even if Obama did lose Indiana, he won and demonstrated that Clinton cannot claim to hold a lock on white voters or female voters.

Her "win," such as it was, came because of those on fixed incomes who voted for her as a block.

If you want to build a party for the future, having the 65 and over vote ONLY as your majority doesn't speak well for your strength as a candidate.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:05 PM
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49. Yeah! I like it
Get the t-shirts and bumper stickers, let's take this national!!!!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:06 PM
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50. Captain Ass-Boil!
:) K&R.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:07 PM
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51. The certainly bought thatone! LOL
:rofl: lardass Capt. Boilass!
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:10 PM
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52. I only hope
When we get a Democrat in the white house he Just. Goes. Away.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:10 PM
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53. Here ya go EarlG:



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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:19 PM
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56. Yew PhotoShop addict...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:11 AM
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66. Wonderful
and very enticing. I want to collect them all! :D
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:54 PM
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54. Chaos-from ancient Greek - the primal emptiness. That just about describes Rush,a great big nothing
Chaos is related to the Anglo Saxon ganian (yawn is the translation) Only later did the disorder translation come into the word.

When you think of Rush every translation of the word fits.

When you think of thermodynamics, the law of entropy and the big bang theory it just blows your mind how it all fits.:hippie:
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:50 PM
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57. Exactly, and well said. NT
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:59 PM
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59. Repukes want rioting like 68 at Dever I say bring it to St. Paul.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:59 PM by Historic NY
and lay it on their doorstep. Make them cry with the smell of tear gas.
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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:41 PM
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60. Why give it any attention at all?
It's what it is, Rush trying to get grab all the spotlight. There are times where the greatest protests are just silence. Rush is fooling around with a double edged sword and it will cut his head clean off on election day. I say let him have Op Chaos, and lets not bring it up here. It's just another Rush commercial.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:59 AM
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64. I agree. Let Rush's big balloon go pfffft... and die
by starving him of attention.

At the most, make fun of his silly antics, like you did in the OP.

And with that, brush him off as Obama did.



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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:52 PM
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61. I am amazed that anybody falls for this crap
Limbaugh is trying to make himself relevent and so are some Obama supporters, apparently.

Pitiful.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:14 AM
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67. Whatever you say, Mr. Van Winkle.
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:11 AM
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77. LOL, so you fall for it?
OMGGG!!!

Obama supporters will grasp at any straw.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:37 AM
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89. What really amazes me
is how so many dozens of Obama supporters on this board blamed Obama's loss in Indiana on "Operation Chaos".

They really will grasp at any straw. That's one of many reasons I refer to that particular group of DU Obama supporters as Obamanoids.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:23 PM
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94. I don't fall for the idea that Plush Lintball
needs to try to "make himself relevant". He's the party's standard bearer, the "great communicator", and has been for a while now. Where ya been?

As for the rest of it, it's over. it doesn't matter what we choose to believe about this race, it's over, no straws needed.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:32 AM
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63. randi rhodes has a theory:
that operation chaos comes in very handy to explain why so many people are leaving the republika party. she is starting to think that this was created to excuse why the pukies are leaving in droves.

(oh, well, they left to vote for hillary--bloatlard will tell you. when in fact they left to vote for a democrat because they know how bad the republikas SUCK)

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dlfuller Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:17 PM
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98. Certainly could be
I think Randi may have something here...
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:47 PM
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102. I heard that by her yesterday too and it makes so much sense
The republicans and the establishment with their marketing always use the ploy of deception without exception. The realization that they are declining in popularity is a devastating for their business plans. To spend thirty years building something then watch it crumble because of a failure to plan for sustainability must not sit well.

To note even if it was not the primary focus you can bet they are seeing it now as a secondary one
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:07 AM
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65. Nice. K&R.
:thumbsup:
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:34 AM
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68. How about "The GOP, the Party of Chaos and Stupidity"
:patriot:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:25 AM
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69. If we can't win this election with all the negatives on their side then ...
We will the be the party of Chaos.

Handle that brand with care.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:25 AM
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:30 AM
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74. brilliant - the best strategy is an operation of irrelevance! nt
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nvme Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:54 AM
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76. Lets Just make sure we watch the ballot boxes ok!
Edited on Thu May-08-08 07:55 AM by nvme
Lets just make sure our Democratic candidate gets every single vote. The "kitchen sink" was nothing compared to what these Resluglicans will attempt. I was in miami when Bolton and Delay were enforcing their coup de tat. These fuckers bussed in protesters from everywhere to ensure the votes were not tallied in Miami. They are ruthless we must be vigilant. I fear them more than an attack by the al qaida. These people will not hesitate to guts and the constitution. They will sell our bodies to china for the chemicals in our bodies and re buy them to sell to us as vitamin supplements. Make no mistake the republican machine is deadly ask 4067 of our soldiers.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:12 AM
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78. Operation CHAOS...
Can't

Have

Anything

Offering

Sense (Sincerity, Sanity, Substance)


Just a few quick thoughts...:D
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:27 AM
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79. EarlG
you really get it. Thank you for recognizing this for what it is. George Bush's real national plan for running the country for the last 8 years. What a bag of dirty tricks. Is that the best they've got?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:42 AM
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80. "Operation Chaos" = distract, confuse and promote division.
The only way the Republicans have a chance in November is IF they can divide the Democratic voters. "Operation Chaos" is one of the divisive strategies they expect to use to chip away at the strength of the Democratic party this year.

On it's face "Operation Chaos" would appear too asinine, too simplistic to possibly do any damage. If each person viewed it individually the majority would agree. However, something odd takes place when people view it collectively. The herd mentality kicks in and rationality is ignored. Collectively people will react and act in ways that they never would individually. This herd mentality is the exact thing that caused people to buy gas guzzling SUVs, risk ARMs to get into the home they needed.

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bow-tie Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 10:32 AM
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85. How can it be legal?
Isn't it a conspiracy to disrupt the election process?
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 09:41 AM
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81. The GOP is Professor CHAOS!!!
Mwahahhahahahahah!!!!!

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 10:03 AM
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82. K&R and Howard Dean I hope you see this and use it in Ads
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 10:08 AM
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83. There's PhotoShop potential.. Operation "Kaos"
Edited on Thu May-08-08 10:08 AM by npincus
KAOS = GOP, both evil organizations




http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/G/htmlG/getsmart/getsmart.htm

GET SMART

U.S. Spy Parody

The premise of this cult-classic television comedy series is that an evil organization, KAOS, is attempting to take over the world. The forces of good, symbolized by the organization CONTROL, constantly battle KAOS to preserve order in the world. Maxwell Smart (Don Adams) is CONTROL Secret Agent 86. Yet Smart was anything but. A short, stupid, self-centered man, Smart is the antithesis--and parody--of everything conventionally represented by secret service agents in popular culture.





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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 10:33 AM
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86. Thank you for a voice of reason
I got sick of all the posts yesterday trying to say that Clinton did well in Indiana just because of Rush Limbaugh. The subtext of that message is that people who support Clinton are all Republican Limbots anyway, so they can be dismissed and ridiculed.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:14 AM
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88. 100th recommend here
great post.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:40 AM
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90. They're unhip anarchist
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:52 PM
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95. He is now telling the super delegates to pick Obama.
All he cares about are his rating and his name being in the news. He is an idiot, but not when it comes to ratings.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:56 PM
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96. My only regret
is that the elephant is the repuke mascot. I just love elephants! One of my very favorite creatures.
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leaningprog Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:12 PM
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97. Rush Limbaugh represents a fictitious notion
William F. Buckley was a true voice of conservatism in this country.
He was thoughtful, engaging, and could have ferocious discourse and
debate with liberal individuals and be respectful, and remain a
genuinely flawed but decent human being. Rush idolized Buckley and
doted on him like a father figure.

But Rush is selling Rush and hubris. There will never be a conservative
who is conservative enough for him not to attack and decry. There will
never be a moderate whom he does not disdain for not being his particular
and mythical "true conservative" born in glory and hewed from pure
unobtanium. And any liberal is of course mere cotton candy for his
monster yapper to suck in in one gulp and shred with his sharp and
heated tongue.

Right now he is pandering to the uneducated white working class voters
in tandem with Hillary's last ditch ploy. And 10 years from now he will
be flapping his wrinkling jowls at whatever is going on, because what
he pretends to be about is not viable in a diverse Democratic nation
and it simply does not fly, which means he can keep sucking for a buck
to the pinhead du jour for his New York bosses. He is a clash vampire
and picks the scabs of a nation and then drinks.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:33 PM
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100. operation chaos?
Edited on Thu May-08-08 01:58 PM by undergroundpanther
More like a stupid shell game to get more people to ignore the real problem causers, i.e.corporate thugs/thieves, CEO overpay,military spooks gone wild and the resulting blow back,"accidental" ethnic cleansing by ignoring it..(Katrina),The great speculation on futures heists by greedy piggies ,(enron, terrorism futures etc.) and other such nation abusing agendas and despite all the Moonie and Leo Straussian bullshit,these kinds of people are the same as they have always been. They have NO conscience. No sense of empathy,shame, guilt or the ability to feel remorse or another's suffering when they fuck up because they think they are perfect and above reproach already.

These fucked up people they think when they utter a declaration reality must conform to it because they are that fucking deluded and evil.(remember Jeb Bush and his mystical capitalist samurai warrior invisible advice giver? )And "normal"people are nuts as well,they keep doing the same old thing, trusting the same old people that could care less,play make believe right along with them. Right over the cliff.

Limp Balls has made a strategy and like usual it's made of shit and the after buzz of oxycontin.Oooh Super Geeenius.
I posit this, when has anyone living in the thick of the media bubble of mind games,the cardboard cut out people in the political horse races or the 'elite' thieves of economic betting pool EVER told us little people the truth about ANYTHING? The truth is what gets LEAKED in a corrupted system such as this one . That should tell you something about misplaced trust and abuse of power and the people.

WE HAVE BEEN HOODWINKED all to hell in a donut hole without a wing or a prayer.

OOOOh lookit all the chaos. That's what we always have had, people. Tell me when has it NOT been chaos and the seat of the pants crap shoots for our very lives? It's only been "stable" looking when the illusion of prosperous times blankets us to numbness about the other lives not lived and our damn inattentiveness with that soma of woo wee I got mon-ay..What do I want to BUY___ today?...fuck it all I got mine mentality of the comfortable person and their lovely just world hypothesis delusions caused by not feeling pain themselves fucking over any search for justice or truth in any controversial situation that feels a bit uncomfortable or shaming...


When has a crime or disastrous policy done by some"leader" that turned into blow-back ever been admitted to and held accountable by US the people? When has a political gaffe or policy that screws us NOT been played up in the media like they intended it as 'good'and should be rewarded for it,or failing that
the media cries how they are innocent of causing the disasters and the public goes along or fucking forgets to care or even ask WHY(too scared of being called paranoid by people online they will never meet I guess).How much abuse in our lives does it take to wake up from the dream of denial and consumption and mindless distraction and smell the mayhem and point your finger at the fucking nude emperors causing it?


It has been chaos ...since this particular generational cabal of "true believer" self absorbed,thieves and psychopaths took control of our government and re-fashioned it to suit themselves like all self declarative gods who get all the spoils and none of the toils and accountability they leave for us little people to take...And y'all that takeover happened long before bush or reagan eras.

http://www.unknownnews.org/080510-sd4Su-CM.html
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
http://www.beyondbullying.co.nz/snakes_in_suits_spot_the_true_ps.htm
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
http://ponerology.blogspot.com/
http://resistrevolt.com/2008/01/05/twilight-of-the-psychopaths/
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/20963

http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/10/12/christian-coalition-leader-child-molester.htm
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:34 PM
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101. Limbaugh is irrelevant
'nuff said.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:51 PM
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103. I'm surprised the mayor of Denver hasn't been tipped off to Oxycontin Boy's plan yet.
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