Obama thanked the people of IN for all their hard work. Did Hillary thank the people of NC?

[jenmito]

Of course not. That's the difference between the two-Obama shows his appreciation for EVERYONE in EVERY state-whether he wins or loses. Hillary doesn't acknowledge those who voted for her and worked for her in states she lost. She even goes so far as to either say their states/votes don't count. I'm so glad the magnanimous candidate will be our nominee! It's so good to see that nice guys don't always finish last.

[democrattotheend]

1. At least she congratulated him on his win in NC

That's progress...

[jenmito]

5. Well, I guess. But I noticed she didn't use the word "congratulate." It was something else. n/t

[Spazito]

9. I believe she used the word "commend"....

which I found to be an interesting choice.

[jenmito]

13. Yes-that's the word!

Thanks! Yes, it was. :hi:

[pdx_prog]

33. Yep....thanked them for their hospitality....eot

[YDogg]

2. nope

[Kittycat]

3. No, she has ZERO class... Those from NC are now under the bus

with the rest of us latte liberal, activist, birkenstock wearing, prius driving, elitist, egghead, caucus, red-state black people.

Of course I'm white, drink tea, drive a minivan, wear born's, and come from a big blue primary state in the Midwest filled with 'working class whites' - but hey - I guess there are exceptions.

[jenmito]

7. Exactly. And I love the way you put that.

:D

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. Her campaign staff blames her campaign supporters for her loses.

Wasn't that Wasserman-Schultz who attacked Clinton supporters?

[jenmito]

10. They either blame them or dismiss them as "not important." It's always anyone's fault but her own.

[Cha]

41. Really? Wow, they are a bunch

low intel surrogates.

[2rth2pwr]

6. I remember when he showed his appreciation for the Dem voters who didn't

support him by claiming it was because they cling to religion and guns.

[jenmito]

8. That's just an ignorant comment from you.

[dionysus]

30. isn't that par for that course?

[jenmito]

46. Yup. Sure is.

[archiemo]

17. he was speaking to those voters

who were voting against their economic interests by voting Republican because of issues like guns and religion. He wasn't referring to voters who had voted democratic in a recent primary/caucus...that's the problem when people don't think before they post.

[2rth2pwr]

34. He was not talking about Republicans, he was specifically addressing a question

from a fund raiser about why he wasn't getting more support from white working class Dems, this is a Dem primary.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMkQ6OPi3RU

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people feel most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...I think they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter).

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- close tax loopholes, roll back, you know, the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American. So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

[Pirate Smile]

19. He was actually defending them from claims that they were racist and that was why they weren't

voting for him. It would have been so much better if he would have just let it be assumed that the people he was asked about were racist instead of trying to explain that people who had been disappointed by the government for decades were skeptical of messages based on hope and a belief in the government's ability to help them.

[CakeGrrl]

23. Wrong again. You've taken in too much Clinton spin

Others have already clearly explained what Obama was talking about. No need for me to repeat it.

[Lerkfish]

29. hey! stay classy!

just keep on being so lovable!

[gkhouston]

11. Yes, actually. My recollection is that both candidates had the elementary

common sense to thank people in both states.

[jenmito]

16. From the quote the other poster just posted, she thanked the governor and his wife, and said it was

"fun" to campaign in the state. That's not thanking the people who worked for her and voted for her.

[gkhouston]

21. "Supporters and volunteers" isn't people who voted for her and worked for her?

:crazy:

[jenmito]

25. You mean AFTER thanking the governor from NC and then moving on to

the people of Burma?

[gkhouston]

27. You think she was thanking the people of Myanmar for their support?

Or was she supposed to thank the people of North Carolina, county by county? Or say "North Carolina" a prescribed amount of times?? Look, I'm an Obama supporter, but this preoccupation with her speech last night is as futile as her continued campaign. You might think the SD's are going to care but that's going to be about 2,000th on their list. This is nit-picking bullshit.

[jenmito]

28. No. But she didn't thank them when she thanked the governor of NC. That was the time to do it.

But by first talking about Burma, then going on to thank her supporters and staff, she didn't necessarily mean the people of NC. It should've been clear-and right up front.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

12. She did thank them

And I want to thank the people of Indiana for your hospitality and your vote of confidence and I especially want to thank your wonderful Senator, Evan Bayh. Evan is an outstanding leader for this state and for America. He's been your governor. He's now your senator. He's someone whom I look to for advice and counsel. He's worked tirelessly on this campaign and I'm so grateful to him and his wonderful wife Susan. I also want to thank the people of North Carolina, who were so hospitable and gracious to us.
And I especially want to thank Mike and Mary Easley for their friendship and support. Governor Easley is a visionary leader for North Carolina and we had so much fun campaigning in the Tar Heel state.
And while we are celebrating tonight, I would like to take a moment to express my deepest sympathies to the victims of the devastating cyclone in Burma. Our hearts and prayers go out to the people there and I call upon the Junta that has ruled Burma for so many years to please let the rest of the world in to help. This is a time when everyone should be there to lift up those who are affected by this deadly storm.
And I want to thank all of my friends who have worked so hard. I want to thank my friends in labor. I want to thank my staff, my volunteers and my supporters. And I especially want to thank my family for their incredible love and support. Bill and Chelsea. People ask us all the time, how do you keep going? We love getting out and meeting people. We love having a chance to be with all of you, and didn't Chelsea do a great job? I know a lot of people enjoyed seeing my husband again out on the campaign trail.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/text-clinton-speech/story.aspx?guid=%7B661471EA-0EFF-454F-BD3C-22DCD005216A%7D&dist=hplatest

[jenmito]

14. Thanking the governor who supported her isn't the same thing. n/t

[SoFlaJet]

15. Yes she did

she was gracious in her speech to the people of NC

[LisaM]

24. Yes, she did thank them.

This is just proof that if Hillary stepped on a podium and said, "the sky is blue" the Hillary haters would say, "why does Hillary refuse to admit that the sky is blue?"

[xmas74]

50. That's just the way it is.

How many on here are really fans of Obama and how many are just haters of HRC? I'm betting it's nearly a 50/50 split.

[bowens43]

18. North Carolina doesn't count.

[MonkeyFunk]

20. oh who the fuck cares?

I can't believe you guys devote energy to this piddling shit, then pretend it's indicative of some major personality flaw.

Every primary, there are threads on who thanked who, who conceded, blah blah blah. It doesn't matter one whit! How do you stand going through life SEEKING OUT fake reasons to pretend to be outraged over?

[jenmito]

22. I care. And I bet SDs care. The way someone loses says more about someone than the way

they win.

[MonkeyFunk]

52. No you don't care...

you only pretend to care so you can use it to bash her. IF you really cared, you'd go find your answer.

But finding the real answer won't allow you to lie about it.

[PoliticalAmazon]

26. Hillary didn't win NC. Therefore, NC voters don't matter. n/t

[Stand and Fight]

31. Yes.... You must have missed the HUGE banner on her site last night.

Hell, it might even still be up now, but I'm sure you're too busy being rude to notice that...

[jenmito]

44. I'm talking about in her speech. Not on her WEBSITE.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

48. Yes, she did. If the answer REALLY mattered to you...

you could have gone to her website and easily answered your own question, her speeches are ALL posted there.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/


I understand that doing that wouldn't have served your REAL purpose, which was to stir some shit.

[Stand and Fight]

51. You didn't specify that... You asked if she had.

I gave an answer. She in fact did. Deal with it and quit your belly-aching.

[ericgtr]

32. All those people who worked for her mine as well have got the finger from her

She is a very selfish person. People work very hard on these campaigns and a lot of hours of their personal time goes into it for free. How hard is it to simply thank her supporters there (and all the other states she lost) for their work? That pisses me off more than anything about her.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

49. She DID thank them. n/t

[Turn CO Blue]

35. I recall that she did thank the volunteers and supporters in NC

I watched both speeches and I noted that they both had a lot of the same elements running through their speeches.

[dsc]

36. gee what a shock

you out and out lied to our faces.

[Jamastiene]

37. How would you 0bots know?

Simple physics. In order to hear something, you first need to shut up long enough for someone to get a word in edgewise. You haven't shut up about much you hate her long enough to hear a goddamn word she has said. But, hey, that's your fucking problem.

[LostinVA]

38. OOOOO -- don't mess with a Rockingham chick

[Jamastiene]

40. ...

:evilgrin:

:hug: :hi:

[jenmito]

43. Awww...

I understand your anger. :hug:

[Jamastiene]

47. Hey, stop that!

[cooolandrew]

39. Exactly Indiana had their work cut out to eek out a win for Obama so did outstanding.

[NJSecularist]

42. Obama is our nominee?

When did he clinch the nomination?

Is the new magic number 1800?

[jenmito]

45. Oops-I should say "presumptive" nominee.

:hi: