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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM
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Who Here Thinks That Hillary Is Forcing This Just Because Obama Won't Make Her VP.
Is it just me or do you all think Hillary is going on this scorched Earth rampage because Obama won't put her on the ticket. That literally she will take the party down unless he gives in and allows her to be his VP.


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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM
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1. Why would she be VP for someone unqualified to be president? nt
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:03 PM
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9. I quess the majority in our party think you are wrong.
Wow it must really suck not understanding how math works.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:06 PM
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13. No, I'm quoting HER. nt
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:14 PM
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16. Oh...
then put some quotations LOL.


My bad.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:21 PM
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17. It would have made sense if you could see my avatar - should have put in a sarcasm smiley! nt
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:00 PM
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2. I think she would turn him down even if he offered it
Top of the ticket or nothing at all for her
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:04 PM
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11. But, it's MOOT because Obama is way too
intelligent to want that Sniper Liar on his ticket.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:00 PM
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3. How is she qualified to be VP in the first place?
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:36 PM
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38. She's a war monger like Cheney? n/t
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:01 PM
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4. I don't think so. n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:01 PM
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5. I've wondered that before.
Now I'm leaning toward a sense of entitlement and delusional attitude about her chances.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:02 PM
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6. I think a play for VP is part of her plans..
The way Harold Ford was annoying in his arrogant pushing of the dream ticket yesterday..it wouldn't surprise me if it was planned.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:07 PM
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15. Harold Ford sounded delusional himself last night
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:03 PM
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24. True, but Harold Ford always sounds delusional
It's a job requirement to be DLC chair.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:02 PM
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7. that is exactly what is happening
last night, they were all conciliatory and had their cronies pushing the Dream ticket.

apparently, they didn't get the answer they desired, and now they are back in the trenches.
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:02 PM
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8. Sounds like quite a stretch to me...
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:03 PM
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10. I think she's forcing it for the same reason she has been. She's a Republican TOOL
and her objective is to destroy the party's ability to win in the GE.

See operation chaos. I think Republicans (NOT JUST Limbaugh) have tasked her with this and that's what she's doing.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:41 PM
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18. DON'T BE SUCH A GULLIBLE FOOL!
Think before you speak please. If you are just going to make up nasty tin foil things about a fellow DEMOCRAT then please just GO AWAY. You do absolutely no good to anyone. Fly away now...before you get swatted...for the good of the party. How can we ever unit this party with people who THINK and TALK like you? Swat!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:59 PM
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21. Sorry but I don't think I'm the gullible one. n/t
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:07 PM
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25. Well said
It's getting so tiresome to read these moronic theories about fellow democrats. When are people going to get it into their pea brains that every vote is going to be needed to win in November?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:49 PM
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27. Getting tiresome to expect any Clinton supporters would have the integrity to actually READ the BCCI
report or CIA drugrunning report before they pipe up with their uninformed attacks on Open Government Democrats.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:30 PM
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29. Also tiresome are people who make
stupid assumptions. I think both candidates suck.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:55 PM
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30. My reply was to the 'gullible' attack that YOU applauded - that poster was a Clinton supporter so
Edited on Wed May-07-08 03:55 PM by blm
my reference was appropriate.

BTW - what kind of 'lefty' pipes up against Open Government Democrats who believe in honest investigations and accountability, anyway?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:10 PM
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33. HRC has NOT EVER acted in a gracious manner ... it's all about HER.
It's nothing less than tragic how The Clintons have NOT EVER delivered on "the down (Congressional) ticket."

WAKE UP PLEASE? ---> when we're talking about The Clintons, their AMBITIONS come before both The Party and The Nation.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:46 PM
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26. Then you can explain why Dubai, who was protected when BCCI matters were dropped by Bill in the 90s,
has been putting tens of millions into Clintons' bank accounts in recent years?

The same Dubai royals working with GHWBush who NEEDED those matters deep-sixed, and you think it is just 'coincidence' and you dare to call those who noticed the deceit gullible?

AuBu...you still have NOT read the BCCI report all this time, have you?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:13 PM
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34. "BCCI matters were dropped by Bill in the 90s,has been putting tens of millions into Clintons' bank"
DAMN! Get these "CLINTONS" back to NY State?!?

Please NY State, keep THEM!?!
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:17 PM
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35. Believe me, you are not the only one that thinks she is a Republican tool. And if she is not, she
would make the Democratic Party identical to the Republican Party. The truth sucks, but there it is.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:33 PM
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37. Wow...Have you heard? The Rethugs want tax cuts for the middle class!
The Republicans want health care for everyone. Did you know that?
Re thugs want to give more money for schools, teachers and head start etc.
Re thugs want to help college kids get lower interest loans.
Re thugs don't want the tax cuts to become permanent.
Etc., etc., etc. I don't have time to list all the things they want...but you get the picture.

If Hillary is a Republican...then they must want all these things too because these are just a few of the things Hillary wants.
So you see...You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Hillary is the face of the Democratic party. Obama is the face of the left wing of the party. They are both Democrats! You people who say Hillary is a Dino are just repeating lies like a bunch of stampeding cattle.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:05 PM
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12. I wonder. I hope she is not being that petty, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:07 PM
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14. No, I think she honestly believes she is the best person for the job
I don't agree with her. But I think she believes it
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:49 PM
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19. Could be she wants her $11m and the VP slot .... who knows what crazy people think. n/t
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:51 PM
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20. i think he already offered it. after TX/OH.. she turned him down and the very next morning
called for him to accept a VP position publically. it fits her MO
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:01 PM
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22. the only scorched-earth policy I see
is that of the Obama fans here who use every lie and smear to destroy Clinton.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:33 PM
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39. Obama supporters using lies to destroy Clinton? Shameful. Especially
when they don't need to. The truth would be enough.
Isn't it true that she supported George Bush's war?
Isn't it true that she supported George Bush's request for authorization to strike at Iran?
Isn't it true that she supported George Bush's Patriot Act? Twice?
Isn't it true that she supports unfair trade like WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA and all the other AFTA's.
Isn't it true she voted in favor of George Bush's SCOTUS nominations?
Isn't it true her top adviser Mark Penn is a union buster? And is working to help Columbia get a sweet deal that will screw American workers?

I so agree with you. It isn't necessary to tell lies about the Senator.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:02 PM
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23. I don't think she wants VP
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:49 PM
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28. Who cares? She's fighting, so we fight. We'll win.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:05 PM
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31. Stupidest post of the day. No week. OK month.
First you are assuming he hasn't made the offer. You have no evidence of that. Then you are assuming that she even wants it, which i doubt, and again you have no evidence. Besides that it would be a stupid move to take an incumbent Senator out of the Senate and make them a VP. We need Demo Senators.

We need a VP that will work hard for the president in the background and not try to out shine the president, and with respect, that ain't Sen Clinton. Howard Dean, John Edwards or Gen Clark.

But thanks for the divisive post. Fanning the flame. It's time to mend fences not continue the snarky posts.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:06 PM
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32. I think HRC is forcing this because she BELIEVES that she's entitled to both the Democratic ...
Nomination AND The Presidency. Her egomania seemingly is endless.

It's time for the superdelegates to STOP THE BLEEDING lest HRC will destroy the party and Obama IF she is not "the chosen one."
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:25 PM
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36. It would not surprise me if this were true. The Clintons are known for their vindictiveness. n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:35 PM
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40. It appears that it might be the case.
Time will tell.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:36 PM
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41. It's partly petulance, partly resentment, partly spoilsport, and partly about money.
Edited on Thu May-08-08 02:36 PM by TexasObserver
It's all about Hillary, just like it has been since day one.

She's never done one damn thing for the party or anyone in it, except Bill. She's always been about her and Bill, and nothing else.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:38 PM
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42. I do. Because she would kill him to become president.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:49 PM
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44. oh, she wants VP, and he will not make her VP, and she hates that
I wouldn't trust her as the VP, either. She's untrustworthy, and frankly, dangerous as a VP.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:40 PM
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43. That's the way I see it..
Edited on Thu May-08-08 02:40 PM by butterfly77
Plus she is up to some new smear and between now and the next contest..
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:55 PM
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45. I do. I think she wants to be asked to be VP. I also think she would accept. nt
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