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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:47 PM
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Her only route: MAKE Obama unelectable...destroy. Bad tidings
I took a few die-hards off ignore and immediately saw the pattern and message.

A few more weeks.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:48 PM
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1. That's scorched earth politics ... obviously she doesn't want the VP slot
I wonder how she'll even get anyone in the Senate to work with her
if she goes out that way.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:57 PM
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2. HC fanatics demand civility after Obama's victories while they retool gutter smear campaign
This is not about the first woman or first African American candidate, it is about enlightened Democratic values.

Hillary
NO on Amendment No. 4882 that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.
YES on Bankruptcy bill which stripped protections for people in debt.
YES on Kyle/Lieberman bill that sets the stage for the US to take military action against Iran - just like the IWR.
YES on the Iraq War Resolution.
Hillary refused to sign the AFC Anti-Torture Pledge

McCain
NO on Amendment No. 4882 that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.
YES on Bankruptcy bill which stripped protections for people in debt.
YES on Kyle/Lieberman bill that sets the stage for the US to take military action against Iran.
YES on the Iraq War Resolution.
McCain refused to sign the AFC Anti-Torture Pledge

OBAMA
YES on Amendment No. 4882 that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.
NO on Bankruptcy bill (S.256) which stripped protections for people in debt.
In response to the Kyle/Lieberman bill that sets the stage for the US to take military action against Iran Obama drafted legislation stating that Congress did not grant President Bush the authority to attack Iran, either through the Kyl-Lieberman amendment or any resolution previously adopted.
IWR - Not then in the Senate but took a public stand against the Iraq War Resolution
OBAMA signed the AFC Anti-Torture Pledge

Cluster bombs and landmines are particularly terrifying weapons that wreak havoc on communities trying to recover from war. They are fatal impediments to reconstruction and rehabilitation of agricultural land; they destroy valuable livestock; they disable otherwise productive members of society; they maim or kill children trying to salvage them for scrap metal. Over 150 nations have signed the 1997 Mine Ban Treaty. In the autumn of 2006, there was a chance to take a step in the right direction: Senate Amendment No. 4882, an amendment to a Pentagon appropriations bill that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas. Amendment No. 4882 was an easy one to vote against: Who'd want to risk accusation of "tying the hands of the Pentagon" during a never-ending, global War on Terror? As is so often the case, there was no political cost to doing the wrong thing. And there was no political reward for doing the right thing.
But Senator Obama did the right thing.
Senator Obama of Illinois voted IN FAVOR of the ban.
Senator Clinton of New York voted AGAINST the ban.
Analysts say Clinton did not want to risk appearing "soft on terror," as it would have harmed her electability. Amendment Rejected.

http://www.stopclustermunitions.org /


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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM
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4. yup. thats the last time i ever listen to thier calls for unity
forget it.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM
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6. Thanks for the info about those awful killing devices.
That's another reason to be satisfied that woman won't be representing our entire party.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:58 PM
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3. BUT while she does this we are not allowed to gloat, we must respect her
and we have to be "nice".
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM
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5. Or else the saboteurs will get mad and not vote for Obama!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:00 PM
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7. Yup - it's on US to be "the bigger person" while they continue to scheme, lie, and race-bait.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:22 AM
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8. On the road again....she will destroy.
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