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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:31 AM
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We cannot shape our politics around a belief that others are racist.
Those who claim to be defending the party from the naivety of the majority need to re-examine their logic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but once the will of the majority is clear, there's a fine line between being a good democrat and becoming an aristocrat.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:33 AM
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1. It's a FACT that there are racists in this country
But I also think the time to stop catering to them has long passed.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:35 AM
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3. I'm not disputing reality ...
just trying to reshape it.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:35 AM
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2. Racists will vote 90-10 for the Republican NO MATTER WHO WE NOMINATE

Racists gravitate to the GOP. They just do.


Our candidate can be lily-white as the driven snow, and the racists will pull the GOP lever.



So.... QUIT WORRYING ABOUT THE FUCKING RACISTS. They are a slowly, but surely, dying breed. With each generation, there are less and less of them.


Ignore them. We'll progress as a nation right past, through, and around them.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:37 AM
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6. Yes. Absolutely.
Let them rot in their own racist hate. Their numbers are dwindling.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:36 AM
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4. Racism by proxy is just the fashionable the cute way white folks have devised...
... to allow both the proxy and the proxy-user to be racist. The proxy-user gets the benefit of having the the appearance of no responsibility ("it's HIM that's racist, not ME).

As long as white folks agree among themselves that this is an acceptable way to perpetuate racism, it will continue - just like all the other ways.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:40 AM
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9. Good point.
Letting racism shape our policy guarantees the status quo.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:45 AM
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10. Yup. No need to let bigots choose our candidate.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:36 AM
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5. We do need to re-examine some of the logic.
For example, only Hillary can win the big states. Obama has won IL, GA, and NC. They are three of the top ten states in population. And the logic that because Hillary won NY and CA and PA that no other Democrat can with those voters is also flawed. As is the logic that Obama cannot win the "white voters" because Hillary won most of them in the primaries. That does not mean that all those white voters are racist - maybe they thought Hillary was the best candidate? There is so much flawed logic in this campaign.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:37 AM
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7. We must now work on strategies to survive four more years(at least) of republofuck rule.
As we ride our collective high-horse to defeat in November. Oh, goody.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:52 AM
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12. I suspect even the racist are getting tired of riding this horse.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:53 AM by screembloodymurder
Sometimes even the unenlightened will act in their own best interest.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:39 AM
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8. THANK you!
Catering to the lowest common denominator is not only wrong, it's a losing proposition.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:48 AM
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11. There will always be people who think we can't elected a black President
until after we elect a black President. They'll be proven wrong.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:55 AM
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13. when 10-20% of white voters SAY race is an issue to them, it's a problem
and it's racism, not something else

We are complaining about racist actions, racist suppression schemes, and racist rhetoric designed to inflame whites and others against blacks.
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