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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:31 AM
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John Zogby: 'there is no chance' Clinton can win

Clinton 'heading for the exit'


By John Zogby
Independent pollster and political analyst


To all intents and purposes the race for the Democratic nomination is over.

I honestly believe that she will find a way to get out of the race before the next primaries - so as to not hurt her future and to not be blamed for hurting Mr Obama and his chances in the general election.

Here are the reasons:

* There really is no mathematical chance for her to win
* Her campaign is virtually out of money - and it will be difficult for her to raise significant amounts of money after last night
* Not enough happened last night to give her any hope, so continuing would only give the appearance of wanting to damage Mr Obama

Another problem she faces is that she is not perceived as a strong general election contender, because of her high negative poll ratings.

I have no evidence that she will throw in the towel, or when she will. She is a Clinton and the Clintons do not have the word "lose" in their playbook - but these are the things I am hearing from supporters on both sides.


BBC - read more
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:33 AM
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1. .
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:34 AM
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2. No kidding ....
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:43 AM
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3. Is "to all intents and purposes" the proper construction?
I've seen "For all intents and purposes" but never "to all".
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:44 AM
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4. Zogby - Good Call on Indiana!
You're the man!!!

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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:55 AM
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6. just curious, how did John Zogby call Indiana?
thanx for any info.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:00 AM
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9. Four Days of Tracking Polls
And he never had the winner ahead.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:04 AM
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11. thanx for the info
if there is one thing i have learned, i can never trust polls.

been disappointed too many times.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:05 PM
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13. Obama was up by 2 each day with large undecided so within moe and he was right on with NC
look how bad Survey USA was--on both Indiana +12 Hillary and NC +5 Obama.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:55 PM
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15. At least they got the winners right...
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:04 AM
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10. Zogby had Obama winning Indiana by 2. He was the only one who had it even close.
The rest had it going to Clinton by at least four with an average of about 6 points.

The final spread was about 1.5%, so Zogby was off by 3.5 points. He definitely had it better than all but one other polling group (who had Clinton by 4).
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:54 AM
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5. K+R, good stuff to read. encouraging. n/t
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:55 AM
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7. And now, the end is near
Edited on Wed May-07-08 09:56 AM by TragedyandHope
And so I face the final curtain.

My Way

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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:59 AM
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8. i normally like pics of Hillary, but that one is very eery. n/t
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:02 PM
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12. Zogby actually had this one right
Surprised the hell out of me. I usually look at his polls to determine what WON'T happen. As such, I was expecting Hillary to do very well last night.

I still support Hillary Clinton very strongly, but it's clear she won't be our nominee. I hope she takes a road towards reconciliation now... Staying on the campaign trail will keep voter turnout and enthusiasm going, but the message needs to change. She has a narrow window to come out and congratulate Obama before superdelegates force her out. That would be a lose/lose for everyone. I don't want to see that happen, as it would do her lasting harm.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:22 PM
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14. it's a tricky spot she's in right now isn't it? nt
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