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GihrenZabi Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:06 AM
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Florida and Michigan no longer matter
Why is CNN reporting that "Obama currently leads in pledged delegates and in states won, and he is ahead in the popular vote, if Florida and Michigan are not factored into the equation."

For the love of God, Chuck Todd broke the numbers down last night; even WITH Florida and Michigan taken into account PRECISELY AS THEY ARE, Obama still has a 100-delegate lead and a 150,000 lead in the popular vote.

It is OVER. Will the MSM stop fucking stoking this fire and finally let it die? The story's over, you bastards - now it's time to start reporting on the GE and giving McCain a taste of this scrutiny.

That's when the Republicans lose the GE and Obama takes the Presidency.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:09 AM
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1. Clinton and MSM.... co-dependency - that's why they can't let go
INTERVENTION is needed
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:11 AM
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2. CNN and the others thrive on this shit.
I hate to watch these self-serving networks anymore.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:12 AM
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3. And Obama should let them stand as is.
Beyond magnanimity!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:13 AM
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4. Obama wasn't even on the ballet--they can't
stand "as is"...
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Blu Dahlia Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:15 AM
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5. Wow. Will that hold even with the remaining states?
I'm glad I didn't stay up to watch this.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:15 AM
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6. Obama won on legal grounds, on fairness grounds, and on electoral grounds
Edited on Wed May-07-08 08:16 AM by alcibiades_mystery
It's shocking that Hillary Clinton, once the inevitable nominee, is behind in the popular vote EVEN IF one counts a state in which she basically took 300,000+ FREE votes, with none for her opponent who was not on the ballot.

The Hillary supporters should be hanging their heads in shame, outplayed, out-thought, out-campaigned through and through.

Yes, she should go on until at least May 20, though Obama should pledge no debt repayment for Hillary's campaign past May 6. On May 20, she will win Kentucky in a walk, and Obama will take Oregon. Then, Hillary will step aside with a win, and some agreement from the Obama campaign and the DNC to use some primary funds to pay back her now massive and growing debts.

But that's it. Hillary Clinton will not be President of the United States come November. She won't even be the nominee. It's over now, but the hardcore Hillary supporters need time to climb down and demobilize. But she's well and truly done. Only the most fanatical Clintonites think differently, and they'll soon enough be disabused of their delusions.
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GihrenZabi Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:35 AM
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7. Pay her back?
Why?

Shouldn't there be some penalty for her running the campaign she ran? If she couldn't attract the financing to support it from the body politic, doesn't that say something?

Why set the precedent that you can run on fumes and have the Party bail you out?

Accountability. Let her pay her own debts as an object lesson to anyone else who tries to pull this sort of bullshit in the future. If you run a campaign of ego, then you own it. Period.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:40 AM
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8. Agree, she made her debts because she wanted to go on
I will not give one dime to the Party if they pay her debts.

Would they pay Obama's?
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:41 AM
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10. Agreed. Noboby is responsible for Hillary's debt
except Hillary.

And she can easily afford it.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:53 AM
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11. There WILL be an agreement whereby Obama assumes some of Hillary's debt
That's a given. The "should" part is beside the point.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:40 AM
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9. delete
Edited on Wed May-07-08 08:41 AM by JustABozoOnThisBus
edit: oops, replied to wrong post.
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