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phillyliberal Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:54 AM
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Would an Obama/Edwards ticket win?
What do you guys think? Would John bring in he rural, blue-collar white vote? Would that seal the deal? Also maybe having a white-male on the ticket would help Obamas electability.. What you guys think?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:54 AM
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1. yes.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:55 AM
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2. Security will be an issue.
We need a FoPo guru.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:55 AM
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3. You ever see the film Godzilla Vs, Bambi?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:08 AM
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32. yes, as a matter of fact I have. 1976 Animation Festival.
sweet

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:56 AM
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4. Not with me.
Take Obama off the ticket, and it might.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:58 AM
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5. Personally I'd love it but...
...dunno. They'd have to outsmart the Republithugs (which those two likely could) - but the Dem team will have to do that anyway.

Hmmm...
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:03 AM
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6. Obama will need a stronger more experienced Gov or Senator
on the ticket. I like edwards but that ticket is to neo-phyte.
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:04 AM
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7. Absolutely...
They would tap into every vein of desire for change and resentment of the status quo in America today. Plus, the contrast with McCain/Whoever could not be stronger.

Besides, I don't think Elizabeth Edwards would mind living in the Naval Observatory one bit. Shoot, Emma Claire and Jake could play in the vacated bunker--imagine the game room possibilities there!:eyes:
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:21 AM
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8. Edwards Doesn't Even Help With North Carolina. We Need Jim Webb!
We need someone who represents both change and gravitas. Edwards represents neither, although I think he and his wife are absolutely wonderful people and will contribute greatly to our country.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:23 AM
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9. That is the only way Obama will get my vote.
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:25 AM
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10. an EMPAHATIC YES!
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:26 AM
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11. Cabinet position, not VP - mho - n/t
:-)
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:26 AM
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12. EDWARDS DOESN'T WANT TO BE VP
He has said so a TON of times.

But people keep trotting it out, just like the "Run, Al, Run" thing.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:27 AM
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13. I was an Edwards supporter, but he is not the VP (nor is Hillary) who boosts the ticket the most
Obama probably benefits the most from choosing a western state or swing state governor (assuming that Obama/Gore is not an option, which would be a certain win ticket).

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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:37 AM
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15. Bill Richardson is the best choice IMHO.
Strong where Obama is weak, so much diplomatic experience, western state, and hispanic!!!!
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:42 AM
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21. Richardson is a good choice, so is Janet Napolitano, Brian Schweitzer, Kathleen Sebelius, maybe even
Claire McCaskill or Jim Webb from the Senate.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:49 AM
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28. That's one way to kill off racists southern haters! Heads would splode all over the south.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 08:49 AM by SaveAmerica
Hmmm, you might have something there! :think:
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:05 AM
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30. You figured me out.
:evilgrin:
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:33 AM
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14. Of course it would. Unless they find a way to put "Diebold" in charge
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:37 AM
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16. Edwards adds nothing to an Obama ticket.
I like and respect John Edwards.

However, I wish people would recognize a political reality about him:

He is a loser.
He could not win the nomination in 2004.
He could not carry his home state in 2004.
He could not retain his senate seat, had he run for reelection.
He could not win the nomination in 2008.

He is a good man, but his political career is over. Let it rest in peace.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:39 AM
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17. LOL. Wow, a psychic.
"He could not retain his senate seat, had he run for reelection."


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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:41 AM
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19. As an incumbent, his numbers were terrible.
It doesn't take a psychic to read the writing on the wall.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:40 AM
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18. Yes. (NT)
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:42 AM
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20. Edwards will make a far better attorney general than he would a VP
As VP, he wouldn't be able to rip up the corporations.
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agingboomer Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:46 AM
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25. Edwards for AG
I agree Edwards would make a great attorney general. He would
clean up the Justice Department so fast.  Obama needs either
Richardson, Clarke or Webb.  Any of those would make me happy.
 
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:42 AM
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22. He wasn't that exceptional a VP candidate in 2004
other than he might be the only one ever to refuse to use the campaign's slogan. I really don't see that he brings that much - I have heard Sam Nunn, also white male Southern - but with the gravitas and foreign policy and national security credentials that Edwards lacks. Kerry was very strong there himself, so he didn't need that in a VP - and Edwards was then pushed as someone who could excite that same block of people - and he didn't as VP.

There are many many white males and white females - together I think they make up about 85% of the population.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:43 AM
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23. No
He didn't help last time, I don't see what he adds 4 years later.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:45 AM
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24. No, Edwards couldnt even deliver his own state last time..
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:46 AM
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26. I've wanted that since Edwards got out, he was winning the polls against McCain back then
and I think will be good to bring Southern white dems to vote for them. PS Maybe that's the 'cabinet' position he's waiting for before he endorses!
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:48 AM
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27. Edwards won't even endorse Obama (too right-wing on economics)
Do you really think John Edwards will take talking points on the economy from Austan Goolsbee???

http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=85&subsecID=108&contentID=253912
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terrell9584 Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:00 AM
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29. Obama needs a white Southerner
Not Edwards though.

Edwards does nothing to complement any of Obama's weaknesses. He is younger, he still has the problem of the $400 haircuts, and well, he didn't bring much to it last time.

Look at my list of possible running mates. Obama needs someone from the Southern wing, that has a great deal of gravitas and who might actually be able to swing votes. He also needs someone who is older to blunt the whole "youth movement" appearance of his campaign to older voters. Edwards is close in age to Obama and he looks even younger, strategically, it's a bad idea.

I think Mabus, Nunn, Cleland and Clark are probably the strongest picks. Peterson and Graham would also be substantial

Edwards would be best as Secretary of Labor
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:07 AM
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31. I'd like that ticket for more than one reason.
I want the forces of evil to fear Obama's VP more than they fear Obama. That's John.

I do think they'd win it handily.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:10 AM
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33. No. Edwards refused to be the attack dog last time. That disqualifies him from consideration.
I don't even think he wants it anyway.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:03 PM
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34. Yes.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:05 PM
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35. I don't think Edwards will help the ticket. He needs more experience and
foreign policy or military experience in his VP. That would balance the ticket.

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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:05 PM
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36. Would be a strong ticket. Might lack foreign policy.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:16 PM
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37. Former Edwards Supporter Here!
:hi:

No, as much *I* would like it . . .

I'd love to see Edwards as A.G.

$400 haircuts or whatever nonsense - He's a tough trial lawyer. He'll rip the patriot act to shreds. He'll get every single person at Gitmo a trial. And maybe, just maybe, get a trial or two going against the former Administration.

No. Let Webb be the Veep. Let Edwards by A.G.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:36 PM
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38. Obama is better off with a war hero, or someone who can carry a big state
Personally I'm torn right now between 2 'ideal' VP picks for Obama.

-Ted Strickland, Governor of Ohio.
Pros: If you look at the polls, Obama has been up and down in PA by a few points over the last few months, and we won PA the last like 4 presidential elections. Ohio however, I don't think I've ever seen Obama ahead of McCain in, but he is very close to McCain (behind by 1 or 2 percent), and an Ohio native on the ticket could help win us 20 electoral votes, and rob McCain of those 20 votes. Plus no Republican has ever won the Whitehouse without Ohio.

Cons: I don't know much about the guy, so I'm not sure about what drawbacks he could have, other then the fact that he was just elected like 15 months ago. Also it could put the governor's mansion in danger for us in Ohio, but I think we all agree that the presidency is more important then a governorship. Another problem to picking Ted is that I don't think he really helps protect Obama on any issues by bringing a bunch of experience on it with him.

-Any war hero/general (maybe Wes Clark)
Pros: Helps shield Obama from the argument that he's inexperienced in a dangerous world where evil terrorists might attack us at any moment.

Cons: Most war heroes and generals don't have much (if any) political experience, and experience campaigning. It's also hard to say if a guy who has never run for statewide office can carry their state.

I've noticed a few people here have suggested Bill Richardson, I can see the pros to that, he'd carry New Mexico (where Obama is behind by a few percent right now), and would help with the Hispanic vote. The only cons to it are that New Mexico isn't worth a lot (only 5 EVs), and I don't think he can protect Obama from charges of stuff like weak on defense (or other charges) with his political experience.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:41 PM
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39. YES! A POPULIST message! Toss "conventional wisdom" out the door...
Picking a running mate for strictly political reasons, like what state they might deliver is foolish, that would be "old politics"....Senator Obama is winning by doing things differently and people love that.
I hope he does bring on John Edwards.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:42 PM
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40. I supported Edwards but I think he'd make a better president than VP.
Edwards is the kind of guy who needs to call the shots. Second fiddle just isn't his style.
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