Change is scary, but it's necessary and you can do it.

[Ron Green]

Old politics is comfortable, like an old pair of boots. We saw the Comfort Vote tonight among old people in Indiana - they went for Clinton by about 30 points. We see the desperation right here among DU Clinton supporters as they become increasingly strident and marginal in their insistence that Obama represents some kind of mistake: a candidate who can't win the XYZ vote, or who doesn't really have any ideas that will work, or who came out of nowhere and it's NOT HIS TURN!

Stop for a minute and think: Here is a guy who is probably the next President of the United States, telling the American people about distractions from the media, and why we ought to pay attention to what's important. He is a liberal, but not an ideologue. He has a multicultural background. He intends to talk to our "enemies." This is the very person we need most at this point in our history - the Anti-Bush whose candidacy could probably not have happened without the nightmare of the past 7 years.

If you're hanging on to Senator Clinton's candidacy, you can shake loose from it. It's the old style, and it doesn't work very well. It makes people not like politics and that's dangerous for our country and the world. It's painful to make a change such as this, but if you do it, you've got lots of company. I hope you'll join us.

[Guaranteed]

1. FINE post. nt

[NJSecularist]

2. What is change?

Do you mean old politics like being part of the infamous Illinois political machine?

What is change?

[Ron Green]

4. Well, in your case it would involve a different avatar.

:hi:

[OzarkDem]

3. We don't share the same values

You'll have a hard time convincing women voters to support someone who has so much disrespect and contempt for them, as demonstrated by Obama and his campaign.

Sorry, but crapping on people and treating them poorly for personal gain isn't our style. Playing televangelist to people who know little about issues doesn't appeal to us. :shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

5. Shouldn't you be speaking for yourself?

I mean, really.

And when the next 2 Supreme Court Justices are selected by McCain, because you and those who think like you decide to do whatever it is that you must do, then ask yourself, what is it that you got involved in politics for in the first place?

[NanceGreggs]

7. Apparently I missed a VERY important meeting ...

... the one where YOU were elected to speak for ALL women voters.

BTW, I definitely would have voted against.

[NJSecularist]

6. What is change?

I noticed my question was conveniently ignored last time.

Is being part of the Chicago political machine old politics?

[Ron Green]

15. Sorry, I wasn't ignoring your question. I was away from the computer.

I certainly don't characterize Obama's candidacy or his political identity as "Chicago machine politics," and I don't think many reasonable people see it this way. First of all, have you read his books? I have yet to read as thoughtful an explanation of where politics have brought us, and how, and where we must now go, as is contained therein. Secondly, he is a black man, although from a white mother, which you must agree is a change for the top of a U.S. national ticket. His experience is culturally rich, giving him a perspective about race, religion and class never before available in a U.S President.

As I mentioned in the OP, he is talking about the media distractions and the cheapening of the discourse in national politics. This is truly a change - I haven't EVER heard that from someone so close to the nomination for President.

The very fact that his candidacy has energized so many young voters into their roles as citizens, rather than as just consumers, must also be seen as a change.

[VotesForWomen]

8. another naive fool who thinks Obama's 'different.' well, we all live and learn. nt

[murielm99]

9. You are not going to win any Clinton supporters by being

snotty and condescending. Your post is both.

[NJSecularist]

10. What is change?

This is the third time I've asked this.

[RC]

11. Change is going in a different direction.

Going with Hillary is looks, feels and does continue down the path forged by the neo-cons. Just look at who Hillary's supporters are on the Right. The same ones who are supporting the present administration. These right wing nuts are NOT supporting Obama.

[LWolf]

12. Change is inevitable.

Some change is healthy, good, and invigorating.

Some change is not.

I do not want the change that Obama offers: a neoliberal Democratic Party.

I don't see anything positive about that prospect.

[The Night Owl]

13. So, talking to our enemies is good when Barack Obama does it, but bad when...

...Hillary Clinton does it. Got it. Thanks.

[Echotrail]

14. Well said.

Electing Obama will be so good for the country.

Let the neoconservatives, the neoconfederates and the wedge-issue politicians slide back into the shadows, powerless.