Obama came so close to effectively ending it, but could not do it.

[Carrieyazel]

Hillary narrowly wins Indiana. 51-49. If Obama had just gotten a few more votes, he would have had a complete victory. Any thoughts?

[anonymous171]

1. Should've hammered her more on that gas tax pander.

[JVS]

2. yeah if we ignore the contests before WI in which he kicked her ass to hell and back

[lligrd]

3. He Effectively Ended it Long Ago

Hillary is just determined to take us all along on her death march.

[PseudoIntellect]

4. Delegate-wise, (which is how the nomination is decided) a few thousand more votes for a popular vote

win in IN wouldn't have done much more than he did in reality.

He closed the deal on the pledged delegates. She needs impossible margins about as large as Obama's margins in the black vote to catch up in PDs.

[casus belli]

5. He did end it.

He has enough of a net gain in popular votes and delegates that even if they were to add FL and MI as is, she stands no chance of pulling ahead. Add to that her financial problems, and it's a done deal. It's no longer a question of if, but when.

[mikelgb]

6. All this is BS

Only one candidate has a viable path to victory...(that's coming from a die-hard Kucinich supporter)

sure you can create a fantasy Hillary wins remaining contests and Supers flock to her scenario...


but when you compare it to Obama's way more realistic path... it is really no contest

[still_one]

7. rush limbaugh. /nt

[TwilightGardener]

8. He ended it. He's not going to win 100% of everything, for fuck's sake--

especially with the Kitchen Sink and the nonstop media pounding and ambush debates. But he pretty much ended it in WI.

[SoCalDem]

9. Her "win" was due to Freeps voting for her.. there's no way to "protect" against that

HE knows it..we know it..she knows it..

He would "closed the deal" LONG ago, if he had been campaigning against a "normal" opponent..

No one could have guessed that she would have stalked him for months, thowing trash at him at every opportunity..

At least Huckleberry was upbeat about it and never set out to DESTROY McCain

[StevieM]

12. That's just a hateful talking point by Chris Matthews and the Obama people. Good luck winning in

November with that kind of attitude. I would ask why you're not reaching out, but I've given up already. The Obama people want their revolution and Democrats like me have been rudely asked to leave. Carefull...I just might.

Steve

[Guaranteed]

17. Great. But you can't respond like that every time an Obama supporter

says something you don't like.


Obama supporters are reaching out to you and toning everything way down. Don't start in with threats as a campaign tactic, though.



I do agree with your point. The Limbaugh stuff needs to stop.

[Colobo]

10. It's over.

[woolldog]

11. Yeah,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5859323

[Webster Green]

13. One thought: It's over!

Seriously! :nuke:

[BlooInBloo]

14. C'mon - don't wuss out! You know you wanna say something about a "deal"!!!

[Diane R]

15. He could have easily ended it if Rush Limbaugh hadn't gotten Hillary the (small) win.

[gcomeau]

16. He didn't come close to ending it, he did end it.

Or at least, he would have ended it if it hadn't ALREADY been over. But tonight was definitely the 50th or so nail in the coffin.

So Clinton got 20,000 more votes in Indiana after getting routed in North Carolina... what does that do for her? Nothing. It lets her claim a "V" for the state and gives her two more delegates than she would have got if it had inched the other way for Obama. In the meantime Obama just put the last, final metric Clinton could possibly appeal to to bed. The popular vote is now officially so far out of reach for her that it's hopeless. Even seating Michigan and Florida at this point will not do the job. She has NOTHING left to argue to the supers after tonight. And they all know it. Whether she stays in or not it's done, just like it's been done for weeks. Hell, Russert just flat out declared that we now know who the nominee is. Chuck Todd couldn't make it more clear that it's finished. Even the Clinton partisans on the panels were basically saying "Yeah, that's the end" and speculating about how long she would wait to concede and what she would try to ask for on her way out. Will she try to go out on a win in West Virginia? Will she try to go out on an even note with a split between Kentucky and Oregon? Nobody is left talking about what Hillary's path to the nomination is anymore, because there isn't one. At all.

[bhikkhu]

18. Thoughts? Hillary did well.

There is time and good will left, and time for our presumptive nominee and the party to line up against McCain.

[Guaranteed]

19. Good post. The big picture. nt

[nachoproblem]

20. What does it matter?

He increased his lead by taking NC with 14 points while she took IN by only 2. "Can't close the deal" is just an absurd argument coming from the other candidate, when she is trailing him as much as ever now.

Are we still saying that only swing states count for "electabilty?" The thing that nobody mentions, at least in the Hillary camp, is how many presumptive red states are in play specifically because of Obama, according to the poll numbers.

He's winning on pledged delegates and popular votes. Even the superdelegates who are undeclared have overwhelmingly said they won't go against the majority.

There's no valid argument. Even the pundits are crying uncle.

[Triana]

21. Operation Chaos was ineffective, not Obama. n/t

[TheWraith]

22. I think it doesn't matter. Politically you can't be "extra dead."

And the Clinton campaign is definitely dead.

[trashcanistanista]

23. I disagree He had a better than expected night.

He ended it, it is over. She will probably drop out by Friday.

[TheDonkey]

24. Unfortunate he couldn't get the sweep but he HELD STRONG and this will end within a week

Obama will be the "presumptive" nominee for real by the end of this month.

[bowens43]

25. He eneded it last night.

[CakeGrrl]

26. It's over. Clinton needs to figure out how and when to go out.

He's netted at least 12-14 pledged delegates and over 210,000 popular votes from NC/IN.

Clinton is NOT getting it without a Superdelegate override, and if you think the SDs will overturn the primary totals after the numbers he pulled in last night, dream on.

[cali]

27. He did effectively end it last night.

that's the simple truth. It was a mortal blow for Clinton. She may stagger on for the next few weeks, buts he's got it.

[Political Heretic]

28. It's over.

[MrSlayer]

29. Yes. I think Hillary should make a great concession/endorsement speech.

And kick off the campaign against McCain.

[Warren Stupidity]

30. It is posts like this that make admonitions to 'not gloat' absurd.

Your candidate is in 'not dead yet' mode. She has lost, fair and square. Her graceful exit is long overdue and it appears that her exit may in fact be lacking in grace.

[Eurobabe]

31. It's done.

Move on and fight the GE battle.

[Vinca]

32. The Limbaugh effect. nt