MSNBC: Hillary has cancelled ALL PUBLIC appearances tomorrow. Not just AM shows. Everything.

[ossman]

Its done folks.

[Kittycat]

1. Russert & Todd: It's ended

We now know who is going to be the nominee.

[Seen the light]

2. Who said that?

I have MSNBC on right now and I missed that I think.

[democrat2thecore]

8. Russert said it. Earlier he said the morning shows were cancelled in a fax from the campaign

[OzarkDem]

87. Since when is Russert trustworthy?

Since when has he become someone Dems agree with?

[calimary]

97. Lawrence O'Donnell is saying it, too. I think it's spot-on.

The fact that she's not going to go on TV tomorrow morning, first thing, and keep on fighting is REALLY significant.

And remember, too - when she's not there, driving the spin and keeping herself in the punditry mix, all they'll have to talk about is Barack's bonanza of the night before compared to how she underperformed at a critical point in the campaign, AND the fact that she's not there.

That will build on the momentum Obama now enjoys, anew, and the PERCEPTION of that momentum.

Very telling. O'Donnell was talking about the effect, for Clinton supporters, of having her be the first face they see in the morning to buoy them up and keep them fighting and keeping their morale intact. And she won't be there tomorrow morning. I think that's extremely significant.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Yes, it is done, time to go after McCain

and 'bout bloody time

[OzarkDem]

88. Let the bleeding begin

sadly it will be Obama and the Dem party's blood that we'll see most.

[CreekDog]

106. what's your alternative? they will attack anyone we put up.

what do you propose that will make us more successful and how does it happen?

your candidate has made her case to the Democratic electorate and it seems like you are not getting your way on this. maybe you are just wrong. are you really smarter than all the people who voted differently than yourself?

[eridani]

108. Where do you ever get the idea--

--that people who are too racist to vote for Obama will lay aside their misogyny and vote for Clinton? The Repuke noise machine would be in gear 24/7 against either.

[oviedodem]

4. It will be frank discussion time tomorrow.

[Exultant Democracy]

5. Ding Dong

[Cha]

67. I'm not saying

Ding Dong until I know for sure.

[me b zola]

76. For real

It's like some kind of zombie flick where the dead keep chasing you in slow motion. :scared:

[Cha]

77. I cannot wait until

we get to leave this zombie flick!

[me b zola]

84. It's been a perpetual nightmare

and I'm looking for the light of day.

OMG, your smiley is on point. :o

[Cha]

93. You get to vote

on May 20th! :toast: :bounce: :kick: :party:

[me b zola]

95. My ballot is sitting here next to me at the computer

I'm savoring it before I take it in (I never mail, I deliver it to Multnomah Co by hand). :)

:toast:

[eridani]

109. A very, very good policy

Even if it doesn't get mangled in a post office sorting machine, it is folded and sits around under unknown conditions of temperature and humidity which might result in ink being transferred to places on the ballot where it doesn't belong.

[Cha]

92. Wrong place. n/t

[OzarkDem]

89. Another GOP meme

do you think you're fooling anyone?

[ossman]

6. Debt payoff negotiation time

[DesEtoiles]

7. Russert saying this, AND if the rumors that she had to loan EVEN MORE $$$ to her campaign are true..

[BeyondGeography]

9. There's no more point to it

Hopefully, they see the light.

[OzarkDem]

10. If so, Dems are done for the GE

and it may be time to accept that now and prepare for the inevitable. Losing another presidential election.

Its a grim prospect, but if Clinton withdraws, we might as well get used to the reality of it - we've let the news media and corporate America choose our candidate.

Maybe we can win in 2012. Let's start working towards it now.

[marmar]

12. Bitter, party of one.....

:nopity:

[juajen]

79. How about a PARTY OF TWO?

[Forkboy]

83. Sounds like you have a date with OD.

[Dark]

91. Hillary Clinton is a fine Democrat, and I'm sure she'll still be around to make trouble for the

republicans.

She's run a good run. But, sadly, it's over.

[Forkboy]

13. Why don't you use that energy to help the Dem this time instead of 2012?

[DesEtoiles]

14. go sign up over in freerepublic and spend your time there from now on

[berni_mccoy]

15. It's understandable you feel that way. Take a few days off to reflect and then try and come back.

[flvegan]

18. Get behind your party.

Or shut the hell up.

[last1standing]

19. It will be so nice tomorrow or the next day when you have to shut up or be banned.

n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

94. No

people who don't support Obama won't be banned. That's silly. Is Skinner going to go into the voting booth and check everyone's vote?

You can't work against him. Doesn't mean you have to like him.

[WillyT]

20. Phft...

[Th1onein]

22. HUH?

You ARE kidding, aren't you?

[EmilyAnne]

27. That's the spirit!

[high density]

29. You are a flame-bait wizard

Definitely one of the biggest baiters on this board.

[populistdriven]

31. Hillary meeting with Top Lawyers tomorrow. -crAP

lol

[Political Heretic]

30. The Moran is strong in that one.

[RedFury]

32. So...

...she loses the Primaries and you're suggesting she's the better candidate?

Hmm...riddle me that one if you would.

[Fox Mulder]

The media wanted Hillary to win.

Not Obama.

And stand behind the Dem. nominee. It's our only chance of winning.

[krkaufman]

73. Yeah, that bit had me howling. As though Hillary wasn't the candidate preferred by the media.

They've been throwing her in our face for the last 7+ years as a presumptive nominee.

[grace0418]

36. Good grief. You may not like Obama but that attitude isn't doing anyone any good at all.

Mourn for awhile, but then it's time to put on your big girl pants and get to work.

[habitual]

37. the battle appears to be over, but you are still throwing spears

we are democrats.

democrats.

[AZ Criminal JD]

102. You are not a democrat. Your are a Obamabot.

You don't even contribute to this board.

[XOKCowboy]

38. You amaze me. Do you have a mirror?

The future is now. Join in. We need you in November.

[qazplm]

39. go be a republican

go vote for mccain, work HARD against Obama.

We dont need you and I'd rather not have you on the team.

[libnnc]

41. I wonder how Skinner will like your attitude?

Not very productive.

[juajen]

81. Skinner doesn't tell us how to live our lives or how to vote.

NT

[Catherina]

44. Maybe it's just OzarkDem done for the DU n/t

[Pawel K]

45. I knew some of you were doing this for 2012. I'm glad one of you finally came out and said it

Obama will win in 08, even if that means your cult leader, Hillary, can't run again.

[JVS]

50. lame

[Bensthename]

53. I just wanted to jump on this long subthread.

:bounce:

[RareLubbockDem]

56. You're absolutely right, with that attitude.

If, on the other hand, you truly care about our country, you'll rally behind the party's nominee, just as I would. If the nominee had been anyone, I'd be behind them. That's what we do.

[Hugabear]

57. Shouldn't you be out campaigning for McCain?

We knew that you and your pathetic ilk were just a bunch of Hillary fanboys, not real Democrats.

[ingac70]

58. Wright 24/7 and the news media is chosing our candidate?

Yeah right. What the hell ever.

[FatDave]

60. "we've let the news media and corporate America choose our candidate"

Ummm, no. Actually we've prevented that.

[VotesForWomen]

104. ha ha ha ha haha L.O.L. and you wonder why Obama supporters get called naive. nt

[fishwax]

61. that's a crock

[aaronbees]

62. Nope

You're done for the GE, not Dems. Go join the Melodrama Party.

[mitchum]

64. Why don't you just shut the fuck up?

[gbrenna]

65. We can't afford to wait four more years

Look it hurts when you candidate loses...I felt like dirt after PA, but Clinton and Obama are similar on issues. Sen. Obama is a good guy. He can win. Give it a few days. For the good of our country McCain must be defeated. Can you imagine four years of GOP rule? (shudder)! Think about the judges, the war, and the economy-McCain must be defeated. This has been a tough primary, but really it's over. McCain should be our focus now. My husband is a Republican;he is going to vote for Sen. Obama. But I can tell you he would not vote for Sen. Clinton. The Republicans wanted Sen. Clinton because she would help rally the base for McCain. Honestly, her candidacy would have energized Republicans (dispirited including my husband), and I think she would have lost. We have a real chance of electing Sen Obama and he has coattails down the ballot.

[gbrenna]

66. We can't afford to wait four more years

lets heal this party and move on. We can elect Sen. Obama!

[krkaufman]

71. Please hold this thought for a few days, and post it again, then.

It will prove more productive at that point.

[krispos42]

75. You have one week of mourning your loss

Then it's either get in line or change sides.

Per Skinner.

[juajen]

86. He's not the nominee, yet.

I think it's humorous that so many people one here don't realize that there is more than one forum. GD-P is easily avoided, you know, like the plague.

[ima_sinnic]

101. poor little deluded fool

unlike that lying self-absorbed corporate ass-kisser you worship (the one with 56% disapproval even before she started the Rove-clone bullshit), the repukes will not pour out of the woodwork to vote against Obama (in fact, a great many truly like Obama and will vote for him in a heartbeat, not to mention that the entire country is genuinely fed up with the neocons, so McCain has a giant handicap to overcome and is a very very weak candidate) and the only Dems who will vote against him (or sit it out) will be the Hillary "supporters" who looooove the status quo and cling bitterly to their delusion that they can replay the glorious 90s, when bill swept all the bad stuff under the rug and made the world safe for corporate mega-plunder.

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[VotesForWomen]

103. i suspect you're right; what O-nuts don't know is that what the MSM giveth, the MSM can taketh away.

they truly believe that O has some kind of 'magic' that the real world just can't touch. uh huh, we'll se what happens the minute he becomes the official nominee.

[eridani]

110. The MSM was choosing her a year ago today. Short memory? n/t

[Zachstar]

11. Sounds like it is.

[democrattotheend]

16. Funny, totally different vibe on CNN

They don't think she will drop out for at least 2 weeks.

[beachmom]

21. Oh, that could also be true. It would be best if she dropped out after OR

She will win KY and WV easily. It would be better if she was still in the race; otherwise, it will be like McCain looking like a fool when Huckabee won a lot of the vote after he dropped out.

[democrattotheend]

24. That's my thinking as well

Part of me doesn't want her to drop out yet.

[Hamlette]

23. then why would she cancel her appearances?

I wouldn't be surprised if she stayed in for show...but her heart is not in it.

She's get what she can from Obama, including an agreement to pay her bills, then she's gone.

[dorktv]

34. I think she did because she is probably bone dead tired.

[democrat2thecore]

40. No. That's equiv. to millions in paid advertising -nt

[ekwhite]

47. That isn't necessarily a contradiction

Two weeks would give the Clinton campaign time to negotiate Obama taking on her debt, and seating Florida, along with a few other details. Also, it would give her time to go out on a winning note. She will drop in two weeks, if she doesn't drop out before then.

[panAmerican]

17. Russert: "DAY OF REFLECTION"

[backscatter712]

25. She's coming out!!!

[Catherine Vincent]

26. I think Big Dog and Hillary decided it was time to bow out.

I love the Clinton's!

[ossman]

28. Now sick those attack dogs on McCain

[Catherine Vincent]

33. Yeah. Obama will definitely need it. nt

[Raine]

35. probably to raise money...

I don't think she will ever do the right thing and drop out, she'll have to be forced out.

[HughMoran]

42. The fat lady hath sung

um, fat thighed lady? :rofl:

[Erin Elizabeth]

43. I'm not getting my hopes up.

I'm telling myself she cancelled everything tomorrow to take an entire day to rest. I'll celebrate when she announces she's fucking withdrawing from this primary.

[workinclasszero]

46. Its OVER!!

Its finally over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm series!!1!!1

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[TragedyandHope]

48. MSNBC just read tonight's Hillary Campaign donor email

They said there was NO CALL FOR NEW DONATIONS.

[Sheltiemama]

49. Bernstein on CNN just said ...

... there's some talk she may be going after the vice presidency. Thoughts?

[Selatius]

82. After how divisive this campaign has been, I don't think Obama would entertain her as a VP choice.

Obama would be better off with someone like Wesley Clark.

[eridani]

111. I don't think she's want to be second fiddle n/t

[ingac70]

51. Oh god I hope so....

Farewell Hillary, you greasy haint!

[mythyc]

59. greasy haint, o my!

the best tag for her i've seen yet

[JBoy]

52. Russert: A fundraising event tomorrow in DC will go ahead as scheduled

[ingac70]

54. She needs the cash to pay her campaign debts. n/t

[backscatter712]

63. Could be that fundraising event is when she officially announces she's bowing out. n/t

[GetTheRightVote]

55. Thank god I hope these statements are true then we could go after McCain

finally, I hope, I pray, go Obama !!!

[TheDonkey]

68. Throw in FL and MI and Obama still wins all her metrics. It's over....

[rodeodance]

69. RussTURD has corrected himself.

[DesEtoiles]

70. .

[Arrowhead2k1]

72. Wait, so is this accurate or not?

Would be pretty dramatic if true.

[UndertheOcean]

74. So , does her win in IN change this ?

[me b zola]

78. Knock knock

[UndertheOcean]

80. what ?

[me b zola]

96. It's reality

[Selatius]

85. She barely won Indiana. 51 to 49. Not the blow out she wanted. Obama blew her out in NC. n/t

[kenny blankenship]

90. She should do this more often

[hokies4ever]

98. Not TOO big of a deal

since she doesn't need to campaign hard to win KY and WV. So in terms of the pledged delgate math this decision won't be too hurtful for her. It might hurt her with the superdelegates and the media pundits though.

[Spider Jerusalem]

99. She has NO HOPE of catching up in delegate math.

And the superdelegates won't back her; she's lost. She has no viable path to the nomination now. It doesn't really matter if she wins KY and WV or not. It's over.

[hokies4ever]

100. Depends on what her end game is

We all assume that it's to win the nomination, but what if it's to force a stalemate to try to get herself 2nd place on the ticket? If I was her campaign strategist, I would change her campaign's approach based on whether or not she wants the V.P. position. If she wants it, then have her continue full speed ahead into the remaining primaries and caucuses and try to force a decision on FL and MI.

[hillsidestrangler]

105. Assuming FL and MI are given to Clinton as is, she would

still be behind in all metrics that count...

States won, popular vote, and most importantly, pledged delegates...

Her only legitimate argument at this point would be to somehow convince the SDs to take the nomination away from the more popular candidate using some racial electability argument. But what she fails to understand is that she is a woman applying for what has been a man's job up to this point. So the electability argument is moot as she is just as unelectable as Obama. National polls have been taken on this before. Of those polled, , 72 percent said they were ready for a black president vs 71 percent for a woman.

Game, set, match.

[TexasObserver]

107. She got two easy wins coming up. She can get out after those.

Right now she'll be negotiating for VP and money, trying to get Obama to take on her debt and put her on the ticket. She's got some time, with the two easy wins coming up in the near term.

He won't put her on the ticket, but he might help her pay some debts. Or, he might promise to help her retire her debt, depending on whether she helps in the campaign or sits on her ass.