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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:19 PM
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Obama is calling for party unity in November!
He's movin' on!
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dascientist Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:20 PM
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1. yep, that's dope
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:21 PM
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2. Classy, principled leadership.
Gotta love this Man.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:21 PM
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3. How gracious and generous and 'the right thing to do'! nt
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:21 PM
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4. Yeah, right. When he figures out how to count Michigan and Florida
and if he chooses Hillary as VP, and apologizes for letting the Clintons be smeared as racists, well, then sure. Count me in!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:23 PM
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6. oh, good grief...
:eyes:
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:26 PM
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14. Then just stay home and pout about it.
Your candidate was absolutely twisted in her fevered lust for the white house but you need to whine about Obama, still?

By the way, I'm a Michigan voter and I want my voice heard, not the sleezy power grubbers who've taken my vote for granted. So quit with the bullshit about counting the state. The Michigan pols never wanted our votes to count, only theirs.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:36 PM
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24. Amen, last1.
We've got the highest unemployment and highest rate of foreclosures and all the self-centered non-Michiganders can spew is how to exploit the FUBAR primary for poltical advantage. Heaven forbid they actually SPEND campaign money here! Heaven forbid the candidates actually come and ANSWER to the voters!

Nauseating.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:53 PM
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31. Couldn't have said it better than that, Tahiti.
It's amazing how many people care about our delegates but never mention our economy.

We need help here. Soon.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:27 PM
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Someone needs a reality check.
its you.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:27 PM
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17. I suppose he's defining the "party"
some states count in Obama land, some states don't. But they all vote in the GE and only inexperienced fools think MI and FL Dem voters are obedient serfs of the party.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:29 PM
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18. It pisses me off so much
But trying to explain it to an Obama supporter is like trying to hit baseballs with a feather.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:35 PM
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23. We don't need to explain it to them
Just the party leaders.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:42 PM
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26. You act as if it was Obama who stripped MI/FL
of their delegates. It wasn't, so take it up with the state/national parties or get over it. Its fucking stupid that everyone keeps repeating this meme that Obama bears some responsibility for the clusterfuck that is the the MI/FL situation. Its like reading freerepublic, my brain hurts
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:56 AM
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49. Ozark, I'm from Florida. Our state is to blame. Not Obama.
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:47 AM
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43. Horseshit
I live in Florida, strawwoman. You're desperate to keep the hopes of Hillary's campaign alive.

It's over and you know it. It's time to stop going negative and look at the big prize in November. Those delegates will be seated and it won't matter at the end how.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:22 PM
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5. How much guts would it take...
...for him to now press the DNC to seat Florida and Michigan? Methinks that might be a master stroke (or a disaster, I can't decide.)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:23 PM
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8. It's not his decision. Let the DNC figure it out. nt
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:12 AM
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52. and the thing about that . . .
Michigan and Florida broke the rules and knew there would be consequences. If you let them get away scot free with breaking the rules, it sets a precedent, and next time all the states will want to do it because they know there aren't any consequences.

Of course, all the candidates, including Clinton, understood and agreed that Michigan and Florida wouldn't count. Ms. Clinton was not concerned about the Michigan and Florida voters until she started running behind and needed their votes for herself.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:23 PM
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7. But he doesn't need or want my vote.
he has never offered me any reason to vote for him.Some unity.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:24 PM
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10. Then you aren't listening, but that's no big surprise. You don't want to. noMOREt.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:27 PM
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16. He offers me, a white female babyboomer who needs health care nothing. Sorry he doesn't.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:47 PM
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27. Christ almighty
It's almost embarrassing to see you break down and blubber on an anonymous Internet forum. I hope you come around after a cooling-off period and don't end up supporting the Keating-100YearWar-LeagueofNations senile guy. I firmly believe he has much, much less to offer you than Senator Obama does.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:48 PM
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28. Neither offer me anything.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:23 PM
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36. And isn't that always what they tell women, just get over it?
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:11 PM
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40. I know "they" told all of us to get over it in 2000
I don't know who the "they" are in your pseudo-esoteric statement, so I really can't hazard a guess on this point. I hope you'll come along, but that's all up to you. I know you must feel a real sense of loss, but I do believe that the will of the majority of Democrats in this country is being done. Small comfort maybe, but that's kind of the way it lies.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:40 PM
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41.  I guess I no longer belong as a Dem if that is the case. 30 + years down the drain. Sigh.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:45 AM
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42. Cry me a river; you're a spoiled person who's crying foul because
you didn't get your candidate, and like no other ones. Too bad, so sad. I've noticed, it's always all about you and not me, us, the country. Once we have a presumptive nominee, you will have to shit or get off the pot, sara. Whatcha gonna do? Since the point of that is to avoid negativeness, it will be a hard call for you.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:26 AM
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47. So, a difference of opinion is no longer allowed here on DU?
We like different candidates. So what? Last time I checked that wasn't illegal, nor was it even against the rules of this forum.

HRC is not any number of names that ya'll call her every day. Obama isn't a horrible person either. What we've all done here is allowed longer than usual primary season to cloud our judgment in nasty ways.

Each of us sees things differently. All because someone doesn't see something the same way as you doesn't mean it's time to outright attack. This same poster is someone you should WANT to convince to vote for your candidate in the GE, if he is given the nom. (And I say given since it will be up to the SDs to make the final decision.)

What has happened to us? There is so much infighting and I'm not sure if we can overcome it. If we don't it'll be another lost election.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 09:03 AM
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50. I agree with you xmas....
Unfortunately the nastiness of Obama's campaign has spread well beyond DU....it's in the media and at Clinton rallies....heckling and disrupting.

Obama's having a difficult time closing the deal, I feel sorry for his supporters and the frustration they must feel while alienating members of their own party. Indeed, this is DU's darkest hour, and will ultimately ruin this once very fine community :(

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:12 PM
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55. When I first joined DU
I felt a sense of community, a sense of belonging. No longer do I feel like I belong. Once again I feel as if I've been pushed aside, mocked and ridiculed.

What's the difference between how a handful of posters here and how some frat boy Bush supporters made me feel? There is no difference whatsoever.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:54 AM
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48. personal attacks and name-calling another DU member is immature behavior.
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:49 AM
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44. Stop with the fake sexism
Will you be voting for Obama in November? Yes or No? Are you really a Democrat then?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 09:04 AM
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51. I am what I say I am.
I will vote down ticket all Dems, I'll volunteer in my local and state elections, but I will have to think twice before I vote for him. I have family all over the Chicago area and I've heard too many stories-stories that make me question a number of things about him and his campaign.


Oh, and I've heard them since 2004, so it's not a recent thing.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:25 PM
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12. I know!
This is a big heaping helping of BS. I suppose I'll calm down, but right now I can't stand the sight of him (luckily I can't stand the sight of McCain either). Well, here we go, charter schools and abstinence education, and health care for SOME, and keeping NCLB.......everyone over 47 is washed up and over the hill.....
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:31 PM
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22. Exactly.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:57 PM
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32. We'll Get Charter Schools Regardless of McCain or Obama
He's very friendly to the idea of privatizing education, from what I've seen. It's one of the reasons I dislike his candidacy.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:26 PM
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13. .
:rofl:
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:21 AM
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54. I know . . .
it would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:26 PM
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15. But saracat,
I feel the same way about Hillary, but more than HER needing my vote our COUNTRY needs it to make sure McCain doesn't get in the WH. I really don't think our country can SURVIVE another Republican administrations. :shrug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:31 PM
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20. Obama reminds me of Bush. The same lack of experience and arrogance.
Sorry. I don't like him amy better than Bush. Really. I appreciate the fact we disagree.I have never felt this way about a Democrat before.Hillary wasn't my favorite either but Obama? ? Shudder.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:24 PM
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9. Yeah! With 30% out and it close in Indy, he might get the twofer.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:24 PM
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11. He's the nominee and he knows it.
Smart man that Obama.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:29 PM
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19. I'll bet he is.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:31 PM
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21. Tell that to his supporters
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:42 PM
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25. Good speech. Has Gov. Janet Napolitano (Ar) expressed interest in VP?
Edited on Tue May-06-08 08:43 PM by McCamy Taylor
She has to leave office by 2010, she is an Obama SD and she has executive experience in a conservative border state with a pretty good budget history.

I was watching this video of her and Granholm of Mi and Napolitano looks reassuringly mature, which would be a plus for any voters who are worried about Obama's youth, but she is very good at supporting Obama's policies---no tendency to go rogue--and she has great voice and presence. Plus, she would grab the Catholic and working class and women vote that Clinton has now.

Just suggesting this as an alternative to the Unity ticket if Clinton would rather stay in the Senate than be a VP (which she might prefer to do since being VP would be a lot like what she was with Bill).

This would completely dispel any rumor that Obama was sexist.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:12 PM
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34. OH great and that would leave us in AZ with an arch conservative GOP Gov?
Edited on Tue May-06-08 09:12 PM by saracat
Nice. We just elect Janet to be stuck with Jan Brewer? Yuck! We don't have a Lt, Gov in this state. The Sec of State succeeds the Governor and we have the GOP Jan Brewer also known as the wicked witch for her voter suppression techniques.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:48 PM
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29. He can grovel 'til the cows come home.
LOL, bush had to get into the White House before he divided the people despite his "unity" plank. Obama, Axelrod & Gibbs have managed to do it 6 months before the election.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:52 PM
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30. No, Karl Rove and the RNC have been dividing us with the help of the MSM
Obama does not gain from a divided Democratic Party.

Watch this board (and the press) for a backlash against Obama if it looks like he will get the nomination before the Convention. Rove wants a brokered convention.

If Indiana goes the way I think it will tonight, then Hillary needs to pack it in. Which means that we can expect some major dirty trick action out of Karl Rove directed at Obama to tempt her to stay.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:10 PM
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33. I think there are a lot of willing accomplices among Barack's supporters.
Axelrod and his cronies perhaps did too fine a job of tarring Hillary Clinton as a racist and Repub. That wasn't Karl Rove's doing, and it wasn't the MSM. And the O supporters are all too happy to point fingers at Hillary's supporters with accusations that we, too, are racist.

I put up with a lot of crap in 2004 when I supported Dean, but it was NOTHING like this election. I will vote for the Dems down ticket. That's all I can commit to. The rest is up to fate and destiny.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:16 PM
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35. If he wants party unity then he can start by acknowledging that Hillary was smeared unfairly
when she was labeled a race-baiter. Until he does that he shouldn't get her endorsement and he may not get my vote.

Steve
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:35 PM
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:38 PM
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39. Your accusation is factually incorrect (eom)
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BigD_95 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:55 AM
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45. actually
he already did say that a couple of times.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:26 PM
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37. I loved his speech tonight! We need party unity, regardless of who the nominee is!
This country doesn't need a 3rd Bush term!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:57 AM
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46. He's not going to get it.
I don't know how many HRC supporters will "get behind him," but he's not going to get "unity" from many in the left wing of the party.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:17 AM
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53. So is Hillary calling for party unity...and has been but you folks
just refuse to acknowledge anything positive from her.
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