Team Hillary warns of Obama "October surprise" (Ewww, Ickes)

[babylonsister]

Found on TPM, and entitled, "Keepin' it classy."

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Team_Hillary_warns_of_Obama_October_surprise.html

Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Team Hillary warns of Obama "October surprise"


The early results are suggesting a healthy win for Barack Obama in North Carolina and a much narrower win, maybe 52-48 or so, for Hillary Clinton in Indiana. That won't end her campaign -- nuclear obliteration wouldn't do that at this point but it makes Clinton's mission even harder. In that context, do you think this smacks of a little desperation coming from Team Hillary tonight.

This is what Harold Ickes, a longtime advisory to both Bill and Hillary Clinton, told Mark Halperin of Time's The Page tonight:

“We don’t know enough about Senator Obama yet. We don’t need an October Surprise. And (the chance of) an October Surprise with Hillary is remote.”

This remark is dismaying on several levels, partly because Ickes is virtually channeling Karl Rove, who implied something similar in a recent interview with GQ -- not backed up by any information of course. Just planting this vague idea in Joe Average Voter's head that there's something about Barry -- pick your vice, political or personal -- that all the kool kidz inside the Beltway know about, and it's going to pop one week before the election, is the only strategy here. As if the Clinton camp wouldn't use that information now, when they are still so eager to win but probably can't do so without a "game changer."

Look, anything's possible but I highly doubt it. Despite what people claim, Obama has now been pretty vetted -- the Wright stuff has been bubbling under the surface for a year now -- and I'd be surprised if there's a surprising new avernue of attack at this point. Meanwhile, the only October Surprise I worry about is that our lame ducks at 1600 Pa. Avenue sign onto the Iran obliteration plan. And the only October Surprise I want is the one depicted at top -- the Philadelphia Phillies win the World Series.

[mudesi]

1. What happened to "I'll campaign my heart out for him"?

She is despicable.

[peacebird]

2. exactly.

[cali]

5. Indeed. I'll leave it at that.

[boomboom]

i've heard for a while

that the repugs have tons and tons of info on Bill that they would plan to roll out in October. No one wants to revisit that time again. Don't tell me Hillary has no baggage. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED Bill as President, but I'm not eager to backtrack to that time. GOBAMA

[roguevalley]

56. this is loathesome. ickes is a swine

[TragedyandHope]

7. "If Senator Obama is the nominee,

you better believe I'll work my heart out for him."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqcJOfelTsc

[Yael]

19. Translated from Clintonese to English:

"If Senator Obama is the nominee, you better believe I'll work my heart out for McCain."

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

26. I imagine that NOW that Hillary & Bill's baggage will pop open for all the world to see

its Clinton redux.

They've taken Obama to the vet, tried to euthanize him and now
its their turn to go to the vet.

We have a right to know more about our candidates.

[Kokonoe]

31. It does not say she will do anything

The you better believe puts any onus for action on the listeners

[rudy23]

47. Great catch. nm

[Road Scholar]

14. Dammit!! You keep stealing words right outta my mouth, lol

[Yael]

15. You mean you don't believe her?

:rofl:

[bvar22]

48. The weasel word in that quote is......

"heart".

[NightWatcher]

3. I'll say it, "Fuck you Hillary Camp" you are not entitled to this office. It's America damnit,

Not England, Queen Hillary

[Doityourself]

4. Just disgusting.

[Faygo Kid]

6. Mudslinging, pure and simple, at this point.

And still the Hillary backers here don't get why America is becoming fed up with this kind of crap.

[DemGa]

The right-wing is certainly holding back Ayers

[boomboom]

11. ayers gave $200 to Obama once. *sigh*

you don't think mark rich will come up again?

[displacedtexan]

46. Ayers hired Obama to run his foundation.

They've known each other since 1995, and Obama ran Ayers' foundation for 8 years.

The facts aren't the enemy here. What Republicans do with them is my worry.

[babylonsister]

12. Google Clinton and FALN, and get back to me. For starters, and much

more deadly, and current.

[Yael]

20. You are right. Hannity only mentions him 3x an hour now.

[speedoo]

8. Add that to the database of dirty shit from Hillary.

So it can be thrown in her face when she comes begging for that VP slot.

[gateley]

9. I can't help but think there's PLENTY of stuff than can be dug up about Hillary. nt

[babylonsister]

24. And Bill. They're a twofer now. nt

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

27. it doesn't need to be dug - everyone has given her a free pass - its obscene

the gloves come off now.

[underpants]

10. ppffft

puhlease

[Yael]

13. Oh please. Any shit that can be flung has been flung by her already

Clintons don't think past today.

[Triana]

16. this type of REPUBLICAN politics put Hillary on my sh*t list n/t

[dansolo]

17. Something that the superdelegates are not aware of?

If there are any campaign-killer rumors floating around Washington, then the superdelegates will be aware of them. Guess what, they are still moving towards Obama.

[still_one]

18. I think people are starting to get very tired of the same old BS from the Clintons /nt

[madrchsod]

21. rolling stone mag finally has the story on hillary`s 800,000 earmark

to a "controversial minister" in new york city. as far as i know obama never earmarked 800,000 to wright...the main stream media is just waiting to hit hillary with this one..

i hate to brag but i knew this was going to be story the day those earmarks were released..

[Azathoth]

22. You never know, Obama might get pinned down by sniper fire and not be able to campaign n/t

[newmajority]

23. Prickes also said they had NC in the bag

Harold can suck my left nut.

[blm]

25. Let's all think about what Bill did with the October surprise - he SIDED WITH BUSHInc and

protected their secrecy and privilege. Just as Jackson Stephens groomed him to do for all those years in Arkansas.

Fock you Bill.

[Thrill]

28. Blah Blah. And McCain has no dirt. What about an October Surprise for McCain?

[babylonsister]

30. Why are you defending this? A page from the Rove playbook? That's

okay with you? Ugh. It's not with me.

[nsd]

29. I will be so happy when these people (Ickes, Wolfson, Carville, Davis & company) are gone.

The Democratic party should be better than this.

[cooolandrew]

32. I'd imagine every lame scandal will have zero impact by october.

[babylonsister]

33. Oops! Dupe. nt

[babylonsister]

34. It sucks to have to rec'd your own post, but I want people to see this.

Because the fat lady might only be doing her scales. :evilgrin:

[Arugula Latte]

35. Good example of the slime that Clinton surrounds herself with. We don't need more slime. nt

[babylonsister]

36. .

[Catherina]

37. Is anyone really surprised? Never turn your back on the Clinton machine n/t

[ShortnFiery]

38. HRC and her surrogates are DESTROYING the Democratic Party!

:grr: :nuke:

[HughMoran]

39. Instead of "Ewwww, Ickies", you should have said "Icky, Ickies"

:rofl:

[TexasObserver]

40. Hillary is now adopting Pro Republican talking points.

Please, someone get the strait jacket and get her back on her meds.

[babylonsister]

41. Kickin' for those that missed this gem. nt

[Hissyspit]

42. kick n/t

[nichomachus]

43. If I even suspect that

the Clinton team did anything to sabotage Obama's chances in Nov., I will do everything in my power to see that she loses her Senate seat the next time around. I will donate, call, fly across country if I have to.

[seabeyond]

44. no... repugs will just rehash all the clinton problems of 90's. cant hear anymore about his penis

and it will go on and on and on the hypocrisy until people are as sick of it as they were in 2000, why gore didnt want bill a part of the campaign and what made it so hard for gore.

[Radical Activist]

45. But we do know enough about Hillary.

She can't win and she needs to drop out.

[OhioChick]

49. K&R

:kick:

[Medusa]

50. The chance of an October surprise with Hillary is immense

The Republicans haven't even begun to dredge up what they have on the Clintons. The idea that she's been "vetted" is a joke.

[Faryn Balyncd]

51. Obama/Clark will be able to withstand all the GOP smear machine tries to throw.

[redqueen]

52. Jesus.

And people are proposing that others act graciously towards her campaign?

Really?

[progressoid]

53. Good grief.

[mopinko]

54. sad. the whole damn thing is just plain

sad. i suspect that rather than opening the door for future female candidates, she has presented everyone's worst nightmare about women in high office, and slammed that door for at least another generation.

[LVjinx]

55. I'd like to point out this article is from yesterday

I think that makes a difference. Perhaps others will disagree.