Obama hits Carville, I like it

[gabeana]

Obama on Carville: Famous for ignorance


Obama, on Nightline, was asked about James Carvilles line on the cojones gap:

"Well, you know, James Carville is well-known for spouting off his mouth without always knowing what he's talking about," Obama told "Nightline." "And I intend to stay focused on fighting for the American people because what they don't need is 20 more years of performance art on television. And that's what James Carville and a lot of those folks are expert at ... a lot of talk and not getting things done for the American people."



http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_on_Carville_Famous_for_ignorance.html#comments

[Texas Hill Country]

1. yeah, cause the Clintons did nothing in the 90's... didnt help anyone... ridiculous!

[dogday]

4. Don't bring that up....

The clenis was the problem.... :rofl:

[ShortnFiery]

24. Now Clenis has permanently morphed into "Bubba, snake oil salesman for rural racist WHITE America

Yes, he really needs to re-think keeping his office in Harlem. Psst, Bubba, "the first black president," may no longer be welcome?

[dogday]

32. Yes, Racist white america in all it's glory... Man that word gets

thrown around here more than the word Democrat..

I find your statement to be racist.. And if you are not sure, read the definition of the word and your will see it applies to all races, not just one....

[Cheap_Trick]

52. now it's the Clintoris

when you can find it.

[dogday]

55. But when you do, it is amazing.....

think about that....

[Cheap_Trick]

56. I'd lick it

I won't vote for it. :evilgrin:

[dogday]

59. I'd vote for you with that statement....

:thumbsup:

[cali]

7. uh, he was talking about Carville. Straw man, much?

[Elidor]

57. Very much, very often

Almost every post.

[MadBadger]

8. I dont see the name Clinton anywhere.

[K8-EEE]

72. Carville is such a big windbag - and that wife of his, BLECH!!!!

What that has to do with "the Clintons helping people" I'm not really getting....

[Kittycat]

9. No one is saying they didn't do anythign - but they did hurt the party, as well.

Bill's affairs caused several problems. Some of his policies are seriously hurting our country, and we lost the house, senate & white house after him. Granted Al Gore really won, but he set up a political climate, where it was easier to steal it.

[Texas Hill Country]

25. really? or did the party hurt itself??? Bill is the first Dem Prez to finish 2 terms in 80 YEARS!!

[blm]

37. BFEE needed him in there to protect their secrecy and privilege just as Stephens groomed him to do

in Arkansas.

[Windy]

42. and the ravages of NAFTA which BC signed into law were not realized until

over a decade later!!!!! He started the proverbial ball rolling!!!

[bvar22]

46. The Clinton also helped:

*deregulate the Banking & Lending Industry precipitating the current Mortgage and Credit Crisis.

*deregulate the Corporate Accounting Industry bringing us Enron and Co.

*continue the Republican agenda of privatizing Government reponsibilities and removing them from Public inspection and accountability,. Prisons especially.

*reduce oversight and accountability of Corporations across the board

*by omission, helped the Big Boxes stomp out Mom & Pop businesses

*by omission helped stomp out Family Farms and funnel Tax Dollars to the Corporate Farms

*helped Big Corpo continue to stomp out LABOR

*helped throw Welfare cheats off the dole, but also threw genuinely needy people under the Republican Conservative Bus

*helped strangle the Independent Press, and helped Rupert Murdoch and Mellon Scaiffe consolidate and strengthen their strangle hold on the Media

*helped gays to continue to be an oppressed minority

Yes, those Clintons really helped the right kind of People.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[bvar22]

49. AND, by incompetence and failure to keep fighting (cowardness),

* helped postpone HelathCare reform for a generation.

[gabeana]

60. I don't think you are to good with math

Roosevelt finished three terms and died in his fourth, so technically he did finish two terms

[Major Hogwash]

65. Because of Ross Perot - who played spoiler in 1992 and 1996 and split the GOP vote.

Which you conveniently forgot to mention.

[KnaveRupe]

75. 80 years? Really?

Man. Now I see why y'all are having so much trouble accepting the math.

2008-80=1928.

Kinda glosses over that whole FDR era.

Oh, and you could say that Johnson finished Kennedy's first term and got re-elected. 'Cause, y'know, Kennedy wasn't available to serve two terms after '63.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

19. Bill did help put more black men in prison - proud of that?

if you think thats a good thing, then you will support Hillary.

Three strikes and you're out.

[Tesha]

77. Don't forget Extraordinary Rendition, started under Clinton. (NT)

[gbrenna]

21. The Clintons did help the Democrats....

over a cliff in 1994. I sincerely hope Obama wins both today and ends this primary. The GE is too close to continue this thing. I don't want to see 'President' McCain sworn in on a cold day in January-God forbid.

[ShortnFiery]

30. The Clintons HELPED the GOP win the Legislative Branch ... they did NOTHING for others eom

[gbrenna]

64. Exactly so!

Clinton's helped the Dems go over the cliff and gave the GOP a majority in both houses.

[Dawgs]

22. WTF!!, Carville = Clintons?

:crazy:

[hedgehog]

34. Yes, goodness gracious me , why would anyone EVER associate Carville

and the Clintons?



:rofl:

[invictus]

26. NAFTA, DOMA, outsourcing, bubble economy, repealing Glass-Stegal, welfare reform, ...

The Clintons helped themselves and the corporations and special interest groups, not the American people.

[populistdriven]

47. DMCA, China MFN, CALEA

[krkaufman]

68. Telecom dereg n/t

[blm]

29. They certainly protected BushInc throughout the 90s.

BTW - do you believe the dot.com economy would NOT have happened without Clinton?

[Hamlette]

35. the sad part is, Hillary's behavior in this race is making it harder to remember the good they did

I know Hill supporters think the bad press is because she is a woman but they are blinded somehow.

We supported both of them against all comers in the 90s even though welfare reform was not in line with our values and we all hated NAFTA. Then losing congress for the first time in 40 years was not helpful to our party or our ideals.

And all that time we couldn't see why the right hated them so much.

The same thing is happening now. Hill supporters think the criticism is unfounded and defend her even though some of her actions are indefensible. This gas tax thing is one of them. I think she knee jerked a response and can't self correct when the economists and history show what a bad idea it is. It's been done before, with disastrous consequences. What makes it right now? To Hill supporters its right because Hillary is being attacked because she's a woman.

Back then, we supported bad policy because Bill was being attacked unfairly over Monica etc.

Same dance, different tune.

I'm tired of it all.

[karynnj]

41. He said nothing about Clinton - he hit Carville who has said many outrageous things

How would you have Obama respond to Carville?

[Webster Green]

43. Like NAFTA?

Media consolidation?

Cruel welfare reforms?

The blow job that kept Al Gore from the presidency? :smoke:

[Heather MC]

45. What about all the jobs Clinton sent to China with his policies

Don't forget the economy was going down a year before Bill left office.
And look at all the money he has made from companies who benefited from those policies that took American jobs to foreign countries.

My hometown has suffered great not b/c of the raising prices of everything, but mostly because of the complete loss of jobs for men and woman who worked in all those companies that left for cheaper labor in other countries

[JackORoses]

48. the Clintons were the beneficiaries of a Technology Boom

They did not create it.

Here are a few other things Bill did:

- NAFTA (got rid of American jobs)
- Telecommunications Act (got rid of Fairness in media)
- Defense of Marriage Act (got rid of Gay Marriage)

These are all Repuke dreams which Clinton granted.

[gal]

61. Wow how do you twist what he said to the Clintons?

:spray:

[Tesha]

76. They helped Republicans quite a lot.

Both through their legislative agenda (NAFTA, DOMA,
DADT, Telecommunications deregulation) and through
Bill's all-too-public personal failings.

Tesha

[Kittycat]

2. Love it!

Just caught it over on ThePage, as well. It's about time.

[livetohike]

3. Bad performance art at that!

Their clique is about to come to an end.

[demwing]

5. Zinger!

[npincus]

6. "performance art" on television- LOL

well said, original and TRUE.

[faithfulcitizen]

10. I must say, I adore this man.

on edit, Obama that is, not Carville, lol.

[geiger]

11. But Carville has actually also had a lot of positive things to say about Obama and his campaign

like, "one million two hundred thousand donors; that's not a mailing list, that's a political party."

He's been walking the line, but he's not all about performance art either.

[ShortnFiery]

28. Look at who Carville's married to for Heaven's sake?!? He's VILE - he's always been vile. eom.

[DemGa]

12. Sounds like Carville may have touched a bit of a nerve

[habitual]

14. sounds like he was brushed off to me. n/t

[Major Hogwash]

66. Sounds to me like Obama isn't paying much attention to nutjobs from the South.

Like Bubba and Hillary Clinton.

LoL

[lisa58]

13. "performance art on teletvision"

...I love this guy!

[nebula]

15. Bitch slapped

oh snap!

[flpoljunkie]

16. Signed, sealed, delivered!

GOBAMA!

[graycem]

17. Good for him...

Carville comes from Louisiana and no politics in this country is more corrupt, and no politicians have a bigger mouth with a slanted view against common sense. What gets me about Carville is, even Carville knows Carville is full of shit. The only time I like him is when he's bashing Republicans. He's been slacking on that in the past few years though. Guess he's lost the oomph in his cajones after being married to M.M. for all this time. :P

[NorthCarolina]

18. Gotta love it

what ever is the media going to do....this truth in politics and anti-establishment thing might actually catch on....oh the humanity.:kick:

[CreekDog]

I'm so disappointed!

The title had me thinking he actually hit him. Wasted opportunity. :(

[hedgehog]

39. You wouldn't want to actually hit Carville. If you make physical contact,

you might catch something.

[K8-EEE]

73. Yeah like a snake bite!

He's sooooo the serpent in the Disney "Jungle Book!"

[undeterred]

20. I love it.

:applause: :woohoo:

[lapfog_1]

23. Performance Art

That's being kind.

Carville literally sleeps with the enemy every night.

To him and his wife, this is all a great big game.

Neither of them (Carville and Matalin) believe in the ideologies that espouse. They LOVE it that they create division between ordinary Americans, most of whom have much more in common with each other than with the Washington elite (Carville and Matalin are the very definition of "elites").

I'm glad they bought a house in New Orleans... can't wait until they both move there (sorry for the folks in LA).

[truebrit71]

27. Dayum!!! Nice one Barack!!!

..."And that's what James Carville and a lot of those folks are expert at ... a lot of talk and not getting things done for the American people."

:rofl:

[CoffeeCat]

31. Modern-day politicians...

...assume that voters are a bunch of stupid sheep.

They plan out attacks, soundbytes and one liners that will most damage the
other candidate. It doesn't matter if these marketing plans are rooted in
reality. We saw this happen with John Kerry.

Today's politicians promise everything--to garner votes. Most of them are
corrupt, lying clowns--as are their surrogates and mouthpieces.

Barack Obama is trying to change all of that, and lift us up from the sewer
in which our political system and our government is rotting.

The Clintons, the neocons and others in the corporatist, corrupt system
are doing everything they can to make sure that their brand of corrosive
politics remains alive and well.

I'm banking that Americans want change and that this nonsense will be squashed
in this election cycle.

[Adelante]

33. Handed him back those cajones

:D

[yellowcanine]

36. "James Carville is well-known for spouting off his mouth without always knowing what he's talking

about," I love it when Obama talks like that. Smackdown that ragin Cajun!

[mindfulNJ]

38. OH...SNAP!

perfect response.

[meow mix]

40. K&R!

:rofl:

[QC]

44. Good to see him standing up for himself.

I wonder if he will fight back against McCain the same way?

[TragedyandHope]

50. Carville should crawl back under his rock.

[Neshanic]

51. Obama can't lay a glove on Carville. Carville has wit and does not have it written on cue cards.

[QC]

53. I don't believe this transcript is accurate.

Where are all the uhhhhhs, duhhhhhhhs, and ummmmmms?

[WA98296]

54. Just saw your thread! I thought his response was great!

[Triana]

58. *WHAM!* The man's got it GOIN ON....

LOVE it!

[Overseas]

62. Yes indeed ! Glad he nailed Carville who is partisan at all costs.

Furthermore, Carville and crew push the "She's a fighter" meme because they see it polling well. But think gain boys-- will it look good to have someone clobbering an aging war hero? Don't we want a more subtle fighter like Obama who can show great respect for McCainy's past service but specific disdain for his policies? We're not going to want a messy street fighter-- that would get McCainy the sympathy vote. We want a subtler fighter to say, Sorry, Grandpa, you've deviated too far from your ideals and we can no longer continue the culture of war profiteering at the expense of our veterans and our country's future.

[nichomachus]

63. Carville is scum -- just ask David Vitter

Something that has been overlooked by just about everyone is that no one ever accused David Vitter of wanting prostitutes to put him in diapers.

However, Carville was on TV on whatever talking head show he infests, and he just said, as a complete throwaway line -- not even a direct accusation -- "Well, if Vitter wanted to visit prostitutes and have them put him in diapers -- or whatever he was doing...."

The blogosphere took off with it -- the day before, if you googled on "vitter and diapers" you would have gotten nothing. Within 24 hours of Carvilles throwaway line, there were something like 22,000 hits. It took on a life of its own.

It was the worst kind of slander because, lacking a head-on accusation, there is no way Vitter could have defended himself, without being the one to raise the issue in public. Carville, being from LA, also knew that visiting prostitutes is no big deal for a New Orleans pol, but the diaper thing is just weird. People will forgive the prostitutes, but they won't forgive weird stuff.

I have no love for Vitter and it's fun to watch the hypocrite squirm -- but Carville started a slanderous rumor that will probably ruin the guy's career.

[krkaufman]

67. Ok, I like Obama just a little bit more after reading those comments.

Carville is such a slimeball.

[WinkyDink]

69. Well, it's good to know how much BILL CLINTON is REVILED ON DU. VERY edifying.

[KnaveRupe]

78. What the hell are you talking about?

You do realize that James Carville and Bill Clinton are not the same person, right?

James Carville = loudmouthed, hyperactive Cajun married to over-botoxxed right-wing shrew.

Bill Clinton = Saxophone-playing former president/Bubba married to plucky Senator with poor math skills.


NOT THE SAME PERSON.

[jgraz]

70. Crap, I thought he really hit him

Well, someone should. (Besides his wife, that is).

[liberalla]

71. don't need 20 more years of performance art on television

What a great description!

[K8-EEE]

74. ISN'T IT??? I'm SO sick of all that bullshit.

Including from "straight talker" McCain, LOL!