Hillary is clever. (A view from the state due south of Indiana)

[stevietheman]

Hillary is clever. She has figured out the language to use in luring lower-class whites in Indiana to vote for her. Despite being the poster child for elitism with over $100 million in the bank, she is cynically using supposed anti-elitist language in selling a "cheap gas" gimmick that actually will do nothing to reduce prices at the pump. What's worse is that in one of her latest ads, she promises bringing gas prices back down "for good" — as if that’s even likely with peak oil come and gone.

Hopefully, many people will wake up in time to realize that Barack Obama is telling them the truth about gas taxes and what it will really take to calm down the gas price hikes.

[bowens43]

1. She's not clever, she's devious.

[TahitiNut]

29. Shrewd, unprincipled, deceitful ... lots of apt synonyms.

:shrug: Some folks like that ... but who'd want someone like that in their neighborhood?

[Labors of Hercules]

2. How can stupid people wake up...

from being stupid? :shrug: Can't happen, sorry.

[Texas Hill Country]

6. so the people that support hillary are dumb? working class people are stupid?

you do realize it's comments like this that rip the party apart and earn the elitist label?

[stevietheman]

Anyone who buys into her "cheap gas" gimmick is indeed capital-S Stupid. n/t

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[Labors of Hercules]

17. Do you realize that stupidity will rip this party apart faster than anything else?

And the "elitist" label hasn't been "earned"... It has been mis-applied by the Hillary campaign and widely accepted by those people who don't know what the fuck an elitist really is or to whom the term most appropriately applies:

(namely, since you like labels so much, IDIOTS like you). :grr:

[jordi_fanclub]

3. Clever and intelligent... whatever!

[grantcart]

4. too clever by half

[Mags]

5. having money does not make one an elitist.

[stevietheman]

7. Having riches and pandering to lower-class whites about a "cheap gas" gimmick...

does make Hillary an elitist. No question.

[pocoloco]

8. No, it's how you get it.

[Mags]

11. no it's what you do with it and how you look down at the lower class.

[stevietheman]

19. So why is your candidate looking down at and pandering to the lower class?

Obama is not doing that -- he's telling them the truth!

[Mags]

25. She is trying to help the lower class. BO had rather help himself.

[stevietheman]

26. So, pushing ineffective nonsense that will never pass is helping somebody?

And who might that be?

[Mags]

27. People who don't have food on the table, or gas in their car.

How do you know it would never pass? BO was for it in Ill. Was he pandering?

[stevietheman]

28. He was for it, then realized it didn't work. He learned. Why didn't Hillary?

Besides, if it did pass, prices at the pump won't change. This should be obvious to most people.

[Mags]

30. He's just playing politics. By the way

I checked your homepage, I think is is great. My husband's Grandmother lived on 3rd. Street in Old Louisville.
I used to love going there.

[ShortnFiery]

9. She's also pandering and duplicitous.

Being devoid of morals is "EVIL" not "clever." :thumbsdown:

[stevietheman]

10. Well, it takes a bit of cleverness to be effectively evil. n/t

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[ShortnFiery]

14. And THAT is something to be admired? With "the dark side?"

Those of us of a humanitarian / christian philosophy remember that IN THE END: The last shall be first and the first shall be last. :shrug:

[stevietheman]

16. If you read my OP, you will notice I don't admire it at all. n/t

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[ShortnFiery]

21. Yes, understood.

My bad. :blush: :hi:

[Romulox]

12. I love how a gas-tax break is idiotic, but free trade/trickle down economics are just peachy

So it's insane to think that a gas-tax holiday will help the average American, but "free trade"/deregulation/H1Bs, etc. will eventually redound to the benefit of the average worker one day...right?

[stevietheman]

13. No, they won't, and since Hillary is behind those things, all the more reason to support Obama. n/t

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[Romulox]

31. I guess I'll post it one more time: Meet Austan Goolsbee (Head economist for BOTH DLC and BO )

Austan Dean Goolsbee is an economist and is currently the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. He is also a Research Fellow at the American Bar Foundation<1>, Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge, Massachusetts<2>, and a member of the Panel of Economic Advisors to the Congressional Budget Office.<3> He has been Barack Obama's economic advisor since Obama's successful U.S. Senate campaign in Illinois. He is the lead economic advisor to the 2008 Obama presidential campaign <4> and is known as a centrist.<5> Austan Goolsbee is Senior Economist to the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) and the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI). <6>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austan_Goolsbee

[aquarius dawning]

15. peak oil is a myth.

[stevietheman]

18. OK, so the world has an endless supply of oil. (Stevie whistles) n/t

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[aquarius dawning]

23. ....

"In 1946 Stalin, one of the leading killers of all time but no fool, recognized that Soviet Russia was short of oil, particularly if he was going to successfully wage war on the world. At that time the Baku fields in Russia were running dry and most Soviet territory appeared to not contain oil. His assignment to his scientific community was to learn all that was possible about petroleum and its origins. "By 1951, what has been called the modern Russian – Ukrainian Theory Of Deep Abiotic Petroleum Origins" was born (maybe born again would be more accurate), and debated, studied and peer reviewed for twenty years, all in Russian of course, and completely ignored by the West.

It has long since been much more than a theory and for twenty years Russian drillers have successfully brought in super deep wells using it. The deepest exploratory hole went to 40,000 feet. Russia, once regarded as having little potential, is now, along with ourselves and Saudi Arabia one of the top three oil producers in the world. There are more than 80 oil and gas fields in the Caspian district, all producing from crystalline basement rock. 90 petroleum fields have been developed in western Siberia. "11 major and one giant field have been developed in the Dnieper-Donets basin;" there are 20 wells in Viet Nam producing at 17,000 feet in areas that Western experts considered not worth exploring."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/crispin/crispin11.html

[stevietheman]

24. Anyone who understands this issue knows my position is correct. n/t

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[Kukesa]

20. Besides language, have you noticed her pronunciation?

Depending on the crowd she's addressing, she's drops her "ing" endings to "in" and tries to sound folksy.

[stevietheman]

22. It's rather Bushian, isn't it? I guess Obama is "elitist" because he speaks English well. n/t

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