Will YOU stand behind Whoopi?

[sandnsea]

Sure, we've all emailed. At least you better have. But that seems like it's not enough. For some reason, Slim Fast is more afraid of them than us. Why?

We march for the huge ideological issues. They target the little day to day things to get an immediate change and victory, they intimidate the right people, and it works.

So don't harp at John Kerry about Whoopi. He can't stop his Presidential campaign in order to organize a citizen's group to demand Whoopi get her job back. That's OUR job and we're failing miserably at it.

[Dookus]

1. Why would we demand Whoopi get her job back?

First, there's no way in hell they would EVER re-hire her. Second, I'm sure she wouldn't WANT to work for them again. Third, I don't think she's hurting for the lost income.

I emailed them. I think they suck. I'd never buy their products. But Whoopi's not getting her job back even if Bush himself asks them to rehire her.

[Atlas Mugged]

2. I'll support her....

....but stand behind her? You must not be aware of why she calls herself "Whoopi".

[OneBlueSky]

3. open mouth, insert foot . . .

if I were SlimFast, I'd probably have canned her ass, too . . . sometimes celebrities should exercise a little discretion, particularly when they're appearing on behalf of someone else . . . and when they're spokespersons for corporations trying to appeal to middle America . . . I'm all for freedom of speech, but you don't always have to say something just because you can . . .

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. You Make A Good Point.....

If we have to throw Whoopi under the proverbial train to get the Simian In Chief out of the White House than so be it...

btw, I never found her particularly funny... Elaine Chao is much funnier...

[funky_bug]

16. Exactly...and...

there is a big difference between "free speech" and "cheap talk."

[NC_Nurse]

4. I'm not worried about Whoopi

I bet she doesn't give a rat's ass about working for Slimfast anymore.

Now she's all over the news...that won't hurt her a bit!;-)

[SoulDiva]

5. I love Whoopie

I think she is a wonderful actor, commedian, and political activist. If I were Slim Fast I would have thought twice before hiring an activist during an election year to represent my product and not expect her to still do what she has always done.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I'm A Die Hard Democrat

I own a small business in a conservative area.... Most of my clients are Republicans... If I trash the Simian In Chief in their presence I will probably lose some of their business...

If I trash Chimpy should Kerry or the DNC stand up for me?

[NMDemDist2]

8. Whoopi was a bit out of line IMO as she knew the Kerrys

were there and whatever was said would reflect on the party. But I still called and stayed on hold for 15 minutes to tell Slim Fast they were wrong

the little gal who answered the phone said they were getting lots of calls on both sides of the question

[luaneryder]

9. Has anyone received a reply email from Unilever?

[beaconess]

10. I like Whoopi Goldberg but . . .

She was certainly aware that she was under contract with a company that would not be happy if she brought unwanted controversy to their ad campaign. She also knew that, when she stood on that stage the other night, she was there as part of Kerry's campaign and that anything she said or did, fair or not, would reflect upon him.

I don't feel the least bit sorry for her. In fact, I'm annoyed that she indulged in her own ego rather than do what she was supposed to do - help John Kerry.

So, no - I'm not going to fight for her to get her Slim Fast job back. She was obviously looking for controversy and publicity and she got it. Now she needs to get over it.

[Kahuna]

12. I love Whoopi like she was my sister. But, like Cynthia McKinney...

she's more than old enough to know better. I also am annoyed with celebrities who endorse candidates and then do things to bring controversy to the candidate they are supposed to be "helping." We've all been watching the GOP over the past 15 years and should know how they operate. Right now, their echo chamber is larger than ours. Different rules of the game apply to us.

[beaconess]

17. Bingo!

[sandnsea]

20. We refuse to echo

This thread is proof of that. We apply a different set of rules to ourselves.

Whoopi told a goddamned JOKE. A JOKE. Since Mark Twain and Will Rogers, Presidents have been the butt of jokes.

All these "tough tootles" posts miss the entire point. It's freedom of speech, especially political speech, and the hypocrisy. It's the principle of the thing.

Whoopi said nothing worse than what Dennis Miller said, but there's no outrage against Dennis because we don't get our panties in a wad over a joke. But we won't stand up for our own supporters in the exact same situation. We give them more tolerance and leeway than we do our own supporters. I've seen it time and time again.

Until WE stop applying a different standard to OURSELVES, they'll win every time.

[dsc]

21. Very well said

Why Dennis is getting a pass and Whoopi is getting crucified is the same reason we wind up losing the media war every time.

[sandnsea]

22. My head is spinning

Can you read the words? Are my fingers hitting the right keys??

DSC and sandnsea agreed!!!

[dsc]

25. Unbelieveable but true

I am sick to death of the Coulters of this world getting free rides while our side gets pillaried for every little thing.

[ieoeja]

27. It was a Democratic Party fundraiser.

This wasn't crotch grabbing at a ball park. It was a political fundraiser for the party opposing the person she dissed.

If Democrats can't talk bad about Republicans at their very own fund raisers, does that mean we can officially rule free speech dead?

Besides, her bush probably is smarter than any Bush in the White House making her comment insightful rather than disrespectful.

[oly]

11. Rove is pandering to the bigot block in the Repug party.

Point it out and let it pass.

[Tansy_Gold]

13. Yeah, it would be interesting to see who said what at that

event and then see which celebs Turd Blossom has gone after. Any white folks lose their jobs?


I'm more angry at Whoopi for ever lending her name to a diet concoction.

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. Slim Fast is more afraid of Republicans than they are afraid of

us because there are more fat Republicans than there are fat lefties.

Okay, I'm having a little fun with this. I'm sure Whoopie would approve.

[charlyvi]

34. I'm a leftie and I'm fat.

But I'll have to get much, much fatter before I'll consider using Slimfast. What the hell's in that stuff anyway???

[oly]

15. I think it's more than that. This is Bush's strategy to minimize and

demon-ize outspoken Blacks and organizations like the NAACP. Combined and coordinated with the NAACP diss'ing, the attack on Whoopi makes Repug/Rove/Bush sense. Whoopi (outspoken feminist and liberal) makes a little joke and sexual innuendo while at a Kerrey function. Bush attacks. How could she say such things -- immoral, black, extremist, Hollywood, Democrat, feminist and female too boot? This, of course, is played to and aimed at bigoted/border-line bigoted whites. How could she say such a thing about the pResident (master and white guy)? I think this is what's happening here. Seems obvious to me. Wrong? Dittoheads and religiously insane could get off on this, easily.

[sandnsea]

18. Interesting thread

Shows why they're so successful at silencing us. "My bush is smarter than George Bush" isn't any more offensive than Dennis Miller and his gay comments. Miller will suffer no consequences because nobody on our side will even complain. Whoopi loses a lucrative contract and we say she deserves it. They'll keep winning the culture wars and the media spin wars until we're able to come together with one voice on something.

Oh well, sorry Whoopi. Never mind all you've done for liberal causes and that you were one of the lone voices from Hollywood speaking out last year. You're on your own gal!

[OnionPatch]

19. I love Whoopi but...

she could have used a little more sense considering the situation. Surely she knows, as all of us do, that the RW are ready to pounce on anything any Dems does. Why give them ammunition? (In this same way, I was really pissed at Clinton, though I liked him, because he couldn't keep his pants zipped for a few years.)
Also, as much as I like Whoopi, I feel a company should be free to fire someone they hired for public relations type of positions.
At the same time, the RW are being such hypocrites (surprise!) over this issue when they have people trashing us all over the media 24 hours a day! If Whoopi doesn't represent the heart of America, does Rush Limbaugh? Or Michael Savage?

[zulchzulu]

23. Who cares about Whoopi...not me...

She always does the gutter-mouth schtick and gets her big mouth in trouble. Her movies suck. She's not even that funny.

Besides, Slim Fast sucks. Ever try that chalky crap? It's disgusting.

She could get an ad for a toothpaste commercial where she washes her mouth out with it instead of soap.

[VolcanoJen]

24. It's just not a battle I have enough energy to wage right now.

I was mad at hell at CBS when they scrapped the impotent Reagan film, but that's a different thing altogether.

Hey, I defend Whoopi and her right to call Caesar Augustus bad names, but she was likely a crappy spokesperson for that chalky crap meal replacement drink anyway... didn't she get dumped as an Entemann's Bakery spokesperson just before taking the Slim-Fast gig?

I admire what you're doing, sandnsea, and I don't intend to make light of it. But I don't have the energy or time to sign on right now; I'm too engulfed in the Kerry campaign and voter registration and battling Fox News right now. ;-)

[JI7]

26. i think the difference

between dennis miller and whoopie goldberg is that dennis miller's job is to do comedy in politics. that's what his show is about. and he is often offensive.

whoopie goldberg lost the slim fast deal but their goal is to sell their product which doesn't have anything to do with politics. if they think their business will be hurt because some people are offended by what whoopie said then it's understandable. it's not like she lost the deal for having a certain view on politics, but more because what she said was considered offensive. it's all about business in the end.

[theboss]

31. Though to be honest, who hires Whoopi thinking she is not offensive?

That is whay always gets me about these media scandals. You hire an asshole like Rush Limbaugh and then you fire him when . . . he fucking acts like Rush Limbaugh.

And then you hire Whoopi Goldberg . . . and get offended when she uses foul language.

Same with Monday Night Football, you hire Dennis Miller for his arcane references and hipper-than-thou attitude, and fire him because he is too arcane and caustic.

Same with Michael Savage.

Same with Martin Lawrence.

Same with Andrew Dice Clay.

[JI7]

32. it's not just the foul language but it's the way it was used with Bush

i guess people can accept use of foul language and political differences. but there is a certain point where people will be too offended and consider boycotting a product because of it. i seriously do think the slim fast thing was a business move.

[theboss]

33. Of course it was a business move.....

I've used Slim-Fast. It's horrible, but I've found it to work. They are not marketing to everyone. They are marketing to people who need to diet. That includes Democrats and Republicans. No Democrat that doesn't need to diet is going to buy Slim-Fast to support Whoopi. I mean, would you drink that shit for political reasons? But Republicans who already use it, may stop and switch to a competitor.

Slim-Fast is not an edgy product. It needs people who shop in Wal-Mart in Kansas. Controversy may help a hip/edgy product. It kills a non-edgy product.

[samsingh]

28. yes - i am boycotting slimfast

[mede8er]

29. That's show biz......

One door closes, another opens.....she'll probably land a gig with that Nair product....Bush Remover.....

[theboss]

30. On one hand, I would love it if I never had to see Whoopi again

I mean, she stopped being funny around 1989 and she was only marginally funny to start with.

On the other hand, Republicans are assholes. But I knew that already.

So, my point is, do I demand that Whoopi get her job back so that I may ignore her in hoping that she disappears naturally?