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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:09 PM
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More gutter politics from the HRC campaign...
Okay, HRC's appearance on the O'Lielly program shows exactly what she will do to win. Stay with me for a second - first, as someone else put forth, FauxNews is part of the "vast, right wing conspiracy" group that tried to knock Bill out of the Whitehouse, as was Mellon-Scaife. HRC met with these people. She met with the people who spread lies Vincent Foster was murdered, that Bill Clinton had many people murdered in Arkansas, that she is a lesbian and on and on.

Next, recall what Limpball is doing - actively trying to get Republicans to vote for HRC to keep this mess going. To me, that is exactly who she was talking to in the O'Lielly interivew. To me, this is one more example of how far she will stoop to keep this nightmare going.

I'm so sick and tired of the Bill and Hillary Come First Show.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:11 PM
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1. So because Limpballs and O'Reilly are assholes
Hillary is into gutter politics? If Mike Wallace from Fox is an asshole as well, does that make Obama into gutter politics? Obama did go on FOX News ya know.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:13 PM
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3. Chris Wallace, not Mike
He is only a baby asshole compared to the others. He also hasn't spent the last 16 years calling Obama's spouse every name under the sun.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:15 PM
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5. I meant Chris........
baby asshole is still an asshole. Remember what he did to Bill? Or tried to anyway.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:57 PM
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35. Doesn't look like Bill's wife can remember anything about Fox
other than it's a good place to get her message out.
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:16 PM
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6. Neither one of them should be going on Fox in any capacity
Period.

It's Chris Wallace, not Mike Wallace btw. Mike Wallace is on 60 minutes. Chris Wallace (who is an asshole) is on Fox.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:17 PM
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7. Show me where...
Edited on Thu May-01-08 01:37 PM by HardWorkingDem
Wallace has ever said Obama killed anyone? Was involved in drug smuggling? Was gay to turn off conservative voters? Or where he has had the appearance to jump on Limpball's back regarding a form of voter fraud?

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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:21 PM
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12. He works for FOX. I thought that was enough for O supporters
Is it so hard to give credit to Hillary for standing up to the likes of O'Reilly and doing an outstanding job? I kind of thought Obama did a fine job in his interview
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:44 PM
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24. No, Hillary is in pig-slop politics because she cannot be competitive with honest methods. n/t
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:12 PM
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2. i interpret it as balls. she walks into the lions den and comes out victorious. also, she is
reaching across the aisle, talking to everyone, and doing a truly bipartisan approach...

this is a fantastic component of her campaign... and the more she talks to republicans, the more they like her, even if she is the embodiment of hillarycare and socialism.


Joe, Scaife, Pat, Sean, Bill... all of them have a crush on her.


it's great!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:19 PM
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9. Victorious? After they hacked a video of her... What world do you live in? n/t
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:19 PM
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10. Right....it takes courage and integrity...
to sit down with SPECIFIC assholes who have spread the most vile rumors about you and your family....

That is not integrity or courage, but pandering.

Not only that, recall, these same assholes have also stated their daughter was a child of convenience and the two of them stay married for career purposes.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:23 PM
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14. But many Obama supporters are repeating the same
tripe. I think it does take courage to sit down with your enemy and talk. Isn't think what Obama has been saying?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:39 PM
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23. If that is what you think he is saying,
then it's no surprise that you support her.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:37 PM
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21. Yep. The better they know her
the more the insane right likes her.

Don't that tell you something?
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:24 PM
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31. "Balls"? You call toadying up to O'Reilly has having "balls"? n/t
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:15 PM
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4. She has no chance of being the nominee, she should end on an up note
Whether she will, remains to be seen.

My take is that she is long past trying to resurrect her image, so she'll stay in the gutter to the bitter end.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:18 PM
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8. Talking to your enemies.....hmmmm...where have I heard that lauded before?
Oh yeah, Obama supports sitting down and talking with your enemies.

Hypocrite.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:19 PM
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11. Except when the enemy is Wright, right? n/t
Edited on Thu May-01-08 01:20 PM by ProSense
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:26 PM
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16. Obama is the one who doesn't want to talk to him now. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:18 PM
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29. Does Hillary want to talk to him or just Scaife? n/t
Edited on Thu May-01-08 02:20 PM by ProSense
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:59 PM
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33. Hillary has granted interviews that were requested when time permitted.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 02:59 PM by citizen_jane
Hillary has not shut out the press like Obama was accused of doing in 'The Black Agenda Report'.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:21 PM
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13. Why can't people stick to the point at hand?
Why the tit for tat? Deal with the actions of HRC and talking to those who have harmed her and her family, when for the purpose of political gain and advancement.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:28 PM
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17. That is the point. They slam her for talking to an 'enemy' when it
Edited on Thu May-01-08 01:28 PM by citizen_jane
is something their candidate touts as a good thing. It's the hypocrisy.

edit spelling
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:30 PM
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19. Amen.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:38 PM
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22. Try following the question/statement and point at hand...and read reply 7
and then show me where Obama is breaking bread with the same people (Scaife) who has said vile things about he and his family...

This is about getting HRC more votes from republicans like Limpball is trying to do...nothing more.
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:21 PM
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34. The thing is,
in eight months she'll be their President. And yours.



(BTW, HIM and his family.)
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:47 PM
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25. Well said.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:24 PM
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15. Exactly
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:29 PM
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18. Obama - Fox.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:36 PM
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20. See my reply at number 7....
This is not about Obama and his interview, but how HRC is using Fox and her enemies to partake in a form of voter fraud and by breaking bread with those specific people who have specifically attacked her and her family for years.

(But to play your tit for tat game, do you really think Obama would sit down with some asshole who called him the n-word, said he was a terrorist or killed people?)
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:57 PM
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26. Hillary made a wise political move...
By going on Fox News and talking on O'Rielly she gained access to a large number of Republican and Independent voters. She proved that she is a fighter and brave enough to go into the ring against a formidable opponent. He threw some hard punches but she was able to block them and score some sharp punches on her own. If I were a judge I would have given the first round to her. Round two occurs tonight.

My opinion of her increased tremendously. I hope Obama takes on the O'Reilly challenge. If he can do as well as Hillary, he can gain a lot of votes in the General Election if he wins the primary contest. He may finally be able to put minister-gate to rest.

After all, as Hillary pointed out, the office she is running for is the toughest job in the world. You have to be able to take the heat or you better leave the kitchen.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:58 PM
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28. I'm still waiting for Clinton to attack McCain or O'Reilly on race, religion, patriotism & elitism.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:20 PM
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30. Patriotism might be a bad issue to attack McCain on...
John McCain's capture and imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi. McCain fractured both arms and a leg,<40> and then nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi.<36> After he regained consciousness, a mob attacked him,<41> crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him; he was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Loa Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_mccain#Early_life_and_military_career

Race, religion and elitism might offer opportunity. (Is McCain religious?)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:58 PM
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32. My opinion exactly.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:50 AM
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37. You are still missing the point.....
but hey, I guess if HRC supporters are willing to sit down with someone who spread lies about being a murderer, lesbian (to score conservative political points), having children for ambition, partaking in an attempt to create voter fraud and all sorts of other garbage, then go right ahead.

To me, it shows absolutely no integrity at all and how craven she has become.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:57 PM
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27. I'm still waiting for Clinton to attack McCain on race, religion, patriotism & elitism.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:16 AM
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36. Same here....
just when is she going to run as a Democrat?
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