Is it fair to call someone who propagates right wing propaganda a right wing tool?

[last1standing]

I keep seeing posts that link to propagandists like William Kristol, Cal Thomas, Michael Medved, Newsmax and so on in the attempt to sway DUers to the views held by right wingers. So if someone is asking us to agree with these fascists shouldn't we be able to label them, correctly in my view, as right wingers?

If they are walking the walk why is it considered an insult to say so?

[IntravenousDemilo]

1. "Tool" is probably enough, as the right-winginess is implicit. n/m

[maxsolomon]

2. the same reason Wright saying 9/11 was Blowback is out of bounds

no one wants to look at themselves.

"Tool of the Right Wing" sounds so much nicer, by the way. ;)

[DJ13]

3. I agree, but the Clinton supporters seem to find comfort from the GOP

I think they need to reexamine their values, their commitment to Democratic ideals, and the person they're supporting to be our nominee, to see if they arent being mislead by a Republican in Democratic drag.

[rodeodance]

26. Its Obama fans who post OP's obsessed with Bills Penis and their MARRIAGE-!!

[olkaz]

4. Yes. Period.

Those who would be so easily manipulated deserve our collective emnity. Do your worst.

[Maddy McCall]

5. Not on DU.

Read the rules or talk to Skinner if you've got any questions about that.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. What's Skinner's opinion on propagating RW propaganda?

:eyes:

[last1standing]

9. Sadly, he doesn't have one.

Or at least not one that is listed in the DU rules.

That's why I'm asking how it can be considered an insult to call people who spread fascist views right wing tools. How can stating the obvious truth be considered an insult?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. Oh, I disagree.

"Constructive criticism of Democrats or the Democratic Party is permitted. When doing so, please keep in mind that most of our members come to this website in order to get a break from the constant attacks in the media against our candidates and our values. Highly inflammatory or divisive attacks that echo the tone or substance of our political opponents are not welcome here.

You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee for any political office. If you wish to work for the defeat of any Democratic candidate in any General Election, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website.

Democratic Underground may not be used for political, partisan, or advocacy activity by supporters of any political party or candidate other than the Democratic Party or Democratic candidates. Supporters of certain other political parties may use Democratic Underground for limited partisan activities in political races where there is no Democratic Party candidate.

Do not post broad-brush smears against Democrats or the Democratic Party."

But it seems some people are more concerned with getting their feelings hurt then with that particular rule. Gee whiz, I wonder why that could be.

[last1standing]

17. Unfortunately, that rule doesn't cover right wing propaganda in the primaries.

I've argued the point with Skinner and he was very firm in his ruling that DUers can use obviously right wing sources without disclosing their affiliation.

[Maddy McCall]

19. That's against the rules, as is personally attacking anyone on DU.

So, if you have a problem, ALERT. It's really simple. And the mods always remind us to do that instead of attacking or calling out.

The rules are written to where a 3rd grader can understand them. Are you having that much difficulty understanding them?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. Nope.

I'm just too old to play hall monitor.

[Maddy McCall]

23. Because being an cyberbully is sooo much better.

:eyes:

[leftofcool]

6. Not necessarily

I believe that it is always good to know what your enemy is up to and what they are saying. Not everything posted is a slam against a candidate as some would like to believe.

[last1standing]

8. But that's not how you used it here, is it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5766050

You posted right wing propaganda without mentioning the columnist or his political views. You were spreading this crap without letting others know his leanings.

So why would it be wrong to call you a right wing propagandist?

[leftofcool]

11. It is up for discussion, that is all

The article is in a major newspaper, the most widely read in NC. Personally, I think the article is full of crap, but you are under no obligation to discuss it.

[last1standing]

14. So why didn't you say that in the OP?

You're disseminating propaganda from right wing sources without letting people know. How can you find any sense of honor or decency in doing that?

[leftofcool]

15. You are right, I should have been more clear

I can only chalk it up to a bad chemo morning and on days like this, I probably should read and not post.

[last1standing]

18. I think you should post and continue to support your candidate.

I just think we need to stop these disgusting right wing threads.

And I'm sorry you're having a bad day of the chemo. I hope things get better for you very soon.

[leftofcool]

20. Thank you very much

[last1standing]

22. It'll be a good day when this primary is over.

Then people like you and me can come together again and the agitators can be weeded out. It really bothers me to see us fighting so fiercely.

[mattclearing]

10. Only if you call them on it and they don't relent. n/t

[wowimthere]

13. if you talk like them... appropriate some moniker of success at the mention of right wing talking...

points then you might as well become one. I hear a lot of clinton supporters use statements that give comfort to right-wing talking points as if it were a validation of great opinion and I'm floored. Since people hide behind a thread they may very well be right wingers disguised as Democrats. I'm always suspicious that this may be the case. Usually when you ask them a question they can't answer it. I can feel their right-wings spreading and flying them off to some other thread to kick up a lot of dirt.

[Buzz Clik]

16. Fair? That's pretty subjective. However, it is accurate.

[kwassa]

24. Yes, it is fair to call them a right-wing tool, even a freeper.

It is a grotesque and deceptive practice to link to right-wing columnists without naming the author and publication. It shows the lack of integrity on the part of the original poster, and is usually a desperation move to use right-wing attack ammunition against the Democratic candidate they don't support.

In my opinion, such posts should be locked, and the posters tombstoned. But, this is not my forum to make the rules.

[rodeodance]

25. AND I see BHO fans Obessed with Bill Clinton's penis and their marriage!!--that is RW smear stuff