I Watched O'Reilly For The First Time Last Night - And Hillary Was An Embarrassment...

[JimGinPA]

I won't even go into her possible motives for her going on that trainwreck - though I can't see her picking up any votes from her appearance that she wouldn't have gotten from the dittoheads that were already going to vote for her anyway, in the hope that she can somehow win the nomination and let McSame face the weaker candidate in the GE.

Her pandering to the right wing was a joke, and anyone who watched the entire show would have seen her being laughed at after her segment ended for the rest of the show. Contrary to the posters here who have praised how she "handled" O'Reilly and what a "great job" she did, I thought she looked foolish. I don't think her being flirty with O'Reilly was very presidential at all.


Flame away.

[YEM]

1. You're the embarrassment

"eeer...uh...umm....er....ah.."

[Barack_America]

3. And you're the one being laughed at.

Now, you're the one being ignored!

:hi:

[cali]

4. why so defensive about your candidate?

The OP simply posted his impression. That's all. And if you're mocking Obama, I like his speaking style. He comes off as reflective to me.

[asjr]

25. When someone doesn't like

Hillary Clinton we get messages like this. But, it is expected.

[PoliticalAmazon]

97. "Liking" has nothing to do with it. SHe is a humiliation to women and...

...the Dem Party. Her corruption, unethical and dishonest campaign methods, and mental instability are a threat to our nation.

I'm surprised she and O'Reilly didn't burt into a chorus of "BOmb, bomb, bomb; Bomb, bomb Iran..."

[Hepburn]

10. Sincerely...

...STFU, OK?

There is NOTHING that should be approved of by any REAL Democrat that includes kissing the ass of Bill O'Reily. Get a clue.

:eyes:

[RaleighNCDUer]

33. Um, ah...

a person who never says "uh" is a person who wants to talk faster than you think.

Think about it. Ever hear a used car salesman say "umm, ah"?

"Um" and "ah" are placeholders as the speaker quickly reviews his vast vocabulary to find the exact word that works in the context of what he is saying - clarity is the goal. The snakeoil salesman will rush through with nary a pause, because he knows he doesn't WANT clarity - he wants to overwhelm you with bullshit.

Educate yourself.

[catgirl]

35. The OP didn't sit with Bill O.

Hillary did. Defensive reactions say a lot about you.

[npincus]

52. So Bill-O's a credible journalist, not a bloviating, perverted freak?

[hokies4ever]

79. Ah, the loofah story never gets old

:rofl:

[stevenleser]

103. Yes, WE'RE the Sexists after Hillary validates Ho-Reilly by going on his show...

after the revolting revelations in the Mackris harrasment case, it is impossible to imagine anyone who cares about women's rights going on that POS's show. Of course, Hillary is in her comfort zone with men who can't keep their hands off of women, so...

[roguevalley]

92. I guess you don't know what it is like to watch someone talk who

is thinking about what he is saying at the same time. Maybe that dame wouldn't have talked about her Tuzla moment and all the rest if she actually thought about what she said and didn't just spout whatever she thought would win. You really need to listen to more smart people. Its a revelation.

[WilliamPitt]

104. ?

:wtf:

I love the smell of gibberish in the morning.

[Kablooie]

106. No, YOU'RE the embarrassment.

So there!

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[cali]

6. go to hell because you don't like the OP's review of her perfomance?

Get used to it. You'll read far worse than that about Hill here.

[JimGinPA]

7. Welcome To DU - I'm Sure You'll Enjoy Your Long Stay Here

[jefferson_dem]

11. Wow. You sign up yesterday and are alread telling fellow DUers to "Go to hell"?

Enjoy your stay.

[Cha]

91. It signed up so it could

tell Jim to go hell 'cause it didn't like anything bad said about little pandering hilary on o'lielly's.

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[Adelante]

48. Welcome back to DU

:hi:

[The Night Owl]

5. Yeah... Cowering from interviews is the way to go!

:eyes:

[cali]

8. Who's cowering from interviews?

[The Night Owl]

12. JimGinPA implied that Clinton would have been better off to...

...refuse Bill O'Reilly's invitation to be interviewed. I think we all know that the media, and particularly O'Reilly, would have accused Clinton of cowering if she would have refused O'Reilly's invitation.

[cali]

30. I personally don't like seeing O'Leilly legitimized by

such a high profile dem interview, but it's certainly her choice to make. I really dislike him- as much for his stupidity and petty vindictiveness as his lying and politics.

[DrDan]

31. I agree with you - she should never have given any credibility

to this clown.

I also put that to her in an email this morning - not that I expect it to be read.

I have been leaning toward Hillary - but must now reassess. And yes - I know Obama did the fox thing also.

[cali]

41. It may be a slight distinction but there's a difference to me between

agreeing to an interview with Chris Wallace and doing one with O'Leilly. I really detest him. He goes hammer and tongs after my state at every opportunity. He even tried to lead a tourist boycott of it.

[springhill]

73. There is always a difference....................

to many Obama supporters, no matter what. They can react to circumstances the exact same way, and Obama is classy and Clinton is a "monster". Hillary gets interviewed by O'Reilley and she's the lowest of low, Obama goes on Fox News and the virture of his appearance is just pouring from his soul.

[lastliberalintexas]

75. I wish I could nominate your post for an award of some kind

I'm going to vote for either in November, but I must say that some of Obama's fans grate on my freaking nerves for the very reason you posted. They are are both good candidates even if too conservative for me, and seem like decent people. But they are also both politicians, and they lie, distort, manipulate, and pander, as well as inspire and encourage their supporters. I just wish more of the vocal Obama supporters could acknowledge that as well.

[ampad]

77. Did Obama give an

interview with a man that sexually harassed a woman to the point he paid millions to keep it quiet? O'really called that woman and harassed her, what a fucking joke yet you want to compare that to the Chris Wallace interview, how funny. Hillary and her clowns running around screaming sexism with every criticism, her supporters going bat shit over Obama calling a woman sweetie yet she gets on Fox News and plays kissy face with a dude that actually sexually harassed a poor woman and I don't think he was calling her "sweetie." Clinton is far more than a monster she is a fucking hypocrite as are many of her supporters. Don't get on the news talking about how the boys gained up on me at a debate setting out a woman rallying cry and give an interview to a known sexually harasser of women. It is all beyond disgusting but hey there really is no difference right? :eyes:

[RaleighNCDUer]

39. I also disagree. She would not be better off cowering from the invite.

She should have laughed, long, loud and very publicly, at it, then explained why O'Reily is an anathema to everything she believes.

Oh. Wait a minute...

Edit: That was O'Reily - for a second I got my RW blowhards confused.

[DrDan]

54. so let them accuse away

they will be playing this interview for the next 6 months - or at least a cut up version of it . . . regardless of who is the candidate.

[havocmom]

24. Lending an air of relevance to FAUX and Bill-O is worse than any PERCEIVED cowering

Face it, she is SO outta money that she will go on TV with anybody so long as it's free. Yeah, there's a set of values we need....NOT

[roguevalley]

95. being interviewed by a sexual predator is not good and not dem.

[jefferson_dem]

9. Her performance was an instant turn-off.

Totally disingenuous, per usual.

[The Night Owl]

16. "per usual"... LOL!

[underpants]

13. Her motive is to recruit Republicans to vote for her in NC and IN

[Minimus]

67. Repubs that are registered Dems?

Dixiecrats

[KoKo]

74. No...Dems who are DINO.... That's a majority of NC Dems...

There is a small but growing progressive community. Hillary was going to the Governor's crowd. Mike Easley, the Gov., is a DINO. I can't blame her for that...it's Politics. And, she knows Obama has the Black and Progressive Dem vote locked up.

[Evergreen Emerald]

14. Of course you do. And you typed this same post when Obama pandered

on Sunday, right? Not likely. Is it hard for you to see reality with your head up Obama's ass?

[JimGinPA]

32. Obama Didn't Pander To Chris Wallace...

He had a tough interview on NETWORK TV, the same program that Bill Clinton lost his cool on last year. She went on a cable channel that masquerades as a news network for the RW.

[Carni]

46. LOL! Per THEM he did a hard hitting interview...

Did he say "to tell you the truth" or "I won't lie to you" as a clarifier before everything he said? I note that he often does that, which makes me wonder why he feels he needs to alert us, when he is actually going to be truthful.

[JimGinPA]

50. It's Sure Not Hard To Tell When Hillary's Lying...

She definately doesn't need a qualifier.

[leftofcool]

15. I am sure most O supporters feel like you do

Birds of a feather

[havocmom]

21. Not a big Obama fan, and I thought HRC's appearance with Bill-O was awful

and demonstrated just how little ethical boundary she has. FAUX is not the place to go. Lending Bill-O some semblance of relevance or credibility by sitting there with him is just plain pathetic and desperate.

We already HAVE a president who will do or say anything on any given day regardless of what it actually means. We sure as hell don't need another one!

[The Night Owl]

45. Was Michael Moore pathetic to go on The O'Reilly Factor? John Kerry? Dennis Kucinich?

[JimGinPA]

56. If You Couldn't See The Difference Between Her Appearance And Theirs...

Where he was actually called out on his spins, distortions and outright lies by those others you mentioned, you have no credibility at all.

[The Night Owl]

61. Havocmom's point was that Clinton was pathetic to go on Bill O'Reilly's show.

I just want to know if she judges others who have appeared on O'Reilly's show by the same standard.

[havocmom]

72. Moore is not an opportunistic candidate taking any face time from anyone

Hillary is. There is a difference. She went to be nice so she could save some campaign funds. Moore went on to kick butt. Why is it so hard for you to see the difference?

I guess the more free air time HRC can get, the more funds she has to pay people to post drivel. Don't ya just hate it when that happens?

[havocmom]

90. No, havocmom said she was AWFUL ON the show

and it was a pathetic & desperate move, by a cash-strapped candidate looking to save a buck on TV time to agree to go on with Bill-O

[havocmom]

57. Moore went to call him out on crap

I was sick at HRC's nodding agreement and outright pandering

BIG difference

Also, last time I looked, Moore was not running for office.

Re Kerry and Kucinich: I was critical of those visits too

Sorry, using the 'mom, the OTHER kids do it' argument just doesn't wash with me.

[The Night Owl]

65. Hmm...

You made two posts in a thread about Bill O'Reilly's interview of Michael Moore and neither of them are critical of Moore for agreeing to the interview...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2114334

Are you fibbing?

[havocmom]

71. What part of Moore wasn't running for office do you not grasp?

What part of cash strapped HRC running to ANYONE who will point a camera at her do we not understand?

I am not unhappy when a critic goes on to clean his clock. HRC wasn't that, was she?

[JimGinPA]

22. " Birds of a feather" ?

From what I've seen, both here and in the real world, Obama's supporters are a much more diverse group than either of his opponents. But thanks for the chuckle.

[invictus]

17. K & R

[Hope And Change]

18. K & R!

:kick:

[SeaLyons]

19. Hillary was outstanding....

she did a great job. Sorry, but she handled the interview extremely well.

[Exilednight]

26. "she did a great job." at kissing O'Reilly's ass. n/t

[SeaLyons]

58. No, I'd say he was kissing her ass.

[havocmom]

60. it was a case of 96 in regards to ass kissin

[Exilednight]

99. Would you let O'Rally's warted mouth any where near your body? The fastest way to realize I'm......

wrong is to hear O'Reilly agree with me.

[nomaco-10]

20. I can't even be objective when it comes....

to her anymore. The bosnia lie, the obliterate iran statement and the faux, I feel your pain at the gas pump routine.
She represents everything that is wrong in politics today in my mind. The pandering, the phony outrage and rhetoric have really turned me off to her completely.

[Tippy]

23. I absolutely amazes me why and Democrat would ever go on Fox.

Nary a one comes away unscathed....Some be a lesser degree than others but Fox...is evil and in no way will any Democratic best them. WAKE UP CANDIDATES...you will not change a single vote, and the chances are you will give them what they crave...VALADATION.

[nomaco-10]

28. Yep, even if you "hold your own"....

they can still get enough sound bites to keep their agenda going for days.
sean hannity is their go to guy. Just get him some out of context footage and he will run with it for days.
It's a no win situation for any candidate. Me thinks I smell some desperation on the part of hillary.

[Tippy]

80. Is it desperation or just plain stupid?......n/t

[Tippy]

27. It is such a shame.....FOX wins again.. n/t

[EnviroBat]

34. Like I always say...

If it stinks like a republican, talks like a republican, sucks republican ass for political gain, appears on Faux News with an utter piece of garbage like Bill O'Reilly, it's probably a human-shaped sack of shit republican.

Buh Bye Hillary, we're completely on to you.
:hi:

[Texas Hill Country]

36. actually, i thought it was a fantastic interview, she handled him very well.

[JimGinPA]

42. Of Course You Did...

Proving once again Hillary can never do any wrong in the eyes of her "demographic".

[Texas Hill Country]

47. actually, that is not true at all. 1. I am not her democraphic, 2. there are things she has done

wrong IMO.

BUT

This was a great interview...


Much better than the softball bullshit fawning interview Soledad gave Michelle... that was embarrassing... even Alex Bennett commented this morning that Soledad may as well have gone down on her.

[catgirl]

37. She has never been very presidential.

[madrchsod]

38. ------clinton and o'leilly are rich! ..... is`t it grand to be rich!

play the big fat kiss every time she says she down with the blue collar working class....

[casus belli]

49. Let them eat cake.

Or Ramen. Maybe that's what people can buy with her $.18 a gallon gas tax relief.

[Carni]

43. The embarrassment was Obama

Dancing on *Ellen*...talk about lame and bizarre!

[grrr050]

70. The embrassment s are the people here on DU

who cannot stomach Hillary when she's doing good. Give credit where credit is due people!!!!!!!

BTW, I enjoyed watching Obama dancing at Ellen's. I think that was the only time I get to appreciate his down-to-earthly human side.

[orangerevolution]

44. Democracy

If your answer to losing is to declare yourself "done with politics," then you don't really have the stamina necessary to be a participating citizen. Which is just as well. Democracy requires the continuing participation of the losers, and if you do not have the stones to play the game again the next time then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The sooner the passionate people get disappointed and leave the government up to those of us mature enough to recover from the agony of defeat, the closer we will be to substituting casual, fun-loving partisanship for the bitter, spitting version that has dominated in the last 15 or 20 years.

[Iceburg]

51. What was embarassing was how often she was called upon to defend Obama

She received (and continues to receive) a lot of praise for Rep & Dem alike for her outstanding performance. I also commend the two female pro-Obama pundits that O'Reilly had on after the interview. If the Obama campaign had cloned more of their kind and less of the elitist-arrogant-righteous Keith Oberman types the candidate might have had a better relationship with the voting public and most certainly would not be experiencing a downward spiral as that this critical juncture.

Obama has also been invited on to O'Reilly's program, which admittedly has more of a debate versus interview format to it. Obama has wisely chosen not to accept both O'Reilly's and Hillary's recent invitation to debate the issues. Only strong, quick thinking individuals excel in debate formats. Like Bush, Obama performs best with a script.

I can't imagine Obama having the confidence (especially after last week)to take on either invitation at this point. I believe he will sit on the sidelines or stand behind the teleprompter for the remainder of the primary "hoping" that his surrogates can carry him to the finish line.

[Beacool]

53. Your post is the embarrassment!!

Hillary was great and O'Reilly could not intimidate her. She stood her ground while sounding congenial and looking soft. She did herself a lot of good with the Independent voters who listen to O'Reilly's show. Yeah, whether we like it or not, the pompous gas bag has an audience of 6 million people nationally, 3 million overseas plus thousands on the internet.

[JimGinPA]

63. O'Reilly Wasn't Trying To Intimidate Her At All...

His networks' whole purpose is to prop her up through the primaries because they know McSame will beat her in the GE. And if you think ANY independents watch his show, please send me some of what you're smoking.

[Beacool]

66. Plenty of people watch the show, not just conservatives.

And that includes some Independents and Democrats.

[JimGinPA]

68. If You Say So...

I think the only democrats that watch that creep are media watchdogs. And any "independents" that watch it have never voted for a democrat in their lives, they are just registered independent. But you keep on believing the spin.

[sandyj999]

55. I thought She did a fantastic job! n/t

[MyNameGoesHere]

59. When Hillary addresses the voters that watch

Fox, she is a panderer. When Obama does it he is the uniter. Unfortunately his supporters while vomiting the words unity, change, and hope are none of those.

[Ronnie]

62. I have just one thing to say:

[Jennicut]

64. What is wrong with all of us, I mean going on Chris Wallace and Bill O'Reilly?

What a stupid idea by both candidates. What has happened to DU? Back in the day we would be ashamed if any Dem candidate did a Fox News show. We should boycott Fox news. Any "Reagan Democrat" who watches Fox news ceased being a Democrat a long, long time ago. Also, Chris Wallace is bad but Bill O"Reilly???? Democracy is dying slowly but surely.

[Mimosa]

94. Chris Wallace: son of Mike Wallace

Chris Wallace is a legit journalist.

[Jennicut]

108. I don't care, its still Fox news. Terrible for both of them.

[Mimosa]

115. Fox News: I know what you mean

Jennicut I agree. I watch Fox and I despise the obvious agenda. At first they were building up Obama then they 'turned' on him and ran the 'endless Wright loop.'

[zulchzulu]

69. Her cheap shot giggling about Wright was pathetic slimebag tactics

She also looks like she hasn't missed a meal either.

[suston96]

76. I Watched O'Reilly For The First Time Last Night - And Hillary rocked......! nt

[SunsetDreams]

109. I thought she rocked too, rocked bottom that is.

[Auntie Bush]

78. (((( WHAT A SH*T LOAD OF SOUR GRAPES ))))))

Everyone else thought it was wonderful. Even an Obama Pundit gave her an A+.

[JimGinPA]

83. You Mean The "Democratic Strategists" Faux PAYS For Commentary?

Wake up! Their only purpose is to prop up Hillary through the primaries. They are scared to face Obama in the GE.

[Buzz Clik]

85. No way in hell.

Hillary sucking up to Bill O'Reilly and everything he represents is nothing short of an act of betrayal against any true liberal/progressive in this country.

This is shameful.

[Auntie Bush]

88. So where was all this disapproval when St.can do no wrong Obama

was on Fox? Oh, I forgot he has special dispensation. It's only terrible when Hillary does it. How can you be so BLIND to your own HYPOCRISY and BIAS thinking? You could use a refresher course in critical analysis.

[JimGinPA]

96. You Conflate O'Reilly's Show With A Network Sunday Morning Political Interview Show...

And then have the nerve to bring critical analysis up? Pure idiocy.

[Buzz Clik]

102. You've lost your fucking mind.

Grant, Fox News is a piss poor imitation of journalism, and the talking heads on their hideous news programs are total jokes.

But, Bill O'Reilly is the embodiment of hate. To grant him relevance by appearing on his show is the final straw.

[Auntie Bush]

110. Sorry, but you've lost your fu**ing mind.

Get off DU once in awhile and get a real life and perspective. You are accusing almost 1/2 the population of being stupid. FOX is the most watched program and Hillary wanted to reach independents and undecided...so it was a VERY SMART move. Too bad you're so filled with anger and hate you can't see it or see straight.


Edited to add......

I can't stand BillO either...but I didn't watch to see him. I watched to see Hillary and how she handled the outrageous fool. I watched to hear what she had to say, how she interacted, and what pundit had to say. She got rave reviews and reached many listeners who are also American citizens and VOTERS. If you can't see that YOU really have lost your mind and are projecting.

[ampad]

81. I didn't watch but I will take your word for it

You know what is funny, how many of these hillbots that have come crawling in this thread have written post after post on the way Hillary is treated because she is a woman? I wonder how many of them? They seem to forget the harasser Bill O'really and they also seem to forget how O'really made such a good living hunting Bill Clinton like a fucking dog. You want to talk about sad lets talk about sad. Sad is when you bat your eyes to a right winger that harassed a woman to the point he had to pay her hush money to shut her up. Sad is when you rely on you own misguided definition of sexism to tally up support but pander to a guy who got caught harassing a woman now that is sad. You couldn't pay me to watch O'really, he is a right winger and he degrades women. I don't give a shit if Hillary look presidential or if she handled him (which I seriously doubt she did). There is nothing strong or womanly about throwing your "so call principles" out the fucking door to give an interview but of course, once again this is the Queen bee at work. Running a campaign like a Repigs, sucking up to repigs and behaving like a hypocrite repig. You know if I were you OP I wouldn't take any of these comments by those calling that interview worthy seriously. Most of these folks have gone beyond the looking glass. Bill fucking O'really, I just cannot believe it. I wonder how many of them are secretly watching O'really because they hate Keith O. I bet you quite a few of them have made that switch because they have gone off the deep end like their candidate. I wonder if Hillary thought about how that woman felt as Bill called her over and over again making her life a living hell while she sat there and batted her eyes for that creep, disgusting!

[Mezzo]

82. Why do you hate your fellow democrats? Seriously.

what the fuck is wrong with you?

[JimGinPA]

84. I Don't "Hate" Democrats...

I used to really dislike Hillary, but now I find her phoniness and willingness to tear apart our party repugnant. I'm way past hate for her, but she hasn't been a democrat for a long time, if ever.

[billyoc]

86. When your campaign is destitute, you have to take the free TV time where you can get it. nt

[nomaco-10]

87. Some people just don't get it!!!.....

bill o'reilly has ruined the lives of countless good and decent people. Professors, judges, newspaper editors, journalists, lawyers and politicians starting at even the very lowest levels of local small town government. These people have had DEATH THREATS because of o'reilly's lies and propaganda that he has spread like a disease on his show year after year. I'm just shocked that some of his crazy followers haven't killed somebody that he's targeted yet.

Talk to some of these people and let them tell you themselves how their lives have been ruined. How they lost their jobs, even their homes in some cases, how their children were taunted at school, how their cars and homes got vandalized. And then tell me if any respectable, decent, fair minded dem should go on his show.

[orangerevolution]

89. Hillary not knowing how to pump her own gas

or how to operate the coffee machine inside is the big embarrassment for her. Makes her look out of touch.

[sandyj999]

100. That's just silly.

I didn't always pump my own gas and have never used a coffee machine in a service station in my life. Does that make me out of touch, I think not.

[orangerevolution]

101. You are out of touch

if you are a politician and do not know how to pump gas, work a coffee machine in the store, if you don't know the price of a gallon of milk, etc.

Democratic or repub, you are considered out of touch if you cannot do the basic things we do every day.

[Mimosa]

93. Isn't "Part 2" of Hillary & O'Reilly TONIGHT?

I watched the 'lovefest' last night. It was sickening when you think Hillary could have not sunk to the O'Relly level. She could choose to be interviewed by real newsman, Chris Wallace, or eve Brit Hume.

But O'Reilly is just a bobbleheaded oaf. HRC did herself no favours by appearing with the clown . She seemed almost as phony as O'Reilly.

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[ElsewheresDaughter]

105. yes it was quite "embarrassing" the way she defended Obama several times!

[Jed Dilligan]

107. God Bless Us Rich People. We should have all the opportunities.

[TheDonkey]

111. Hillary is a trainwreck.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

112. What kind of feminist goes on a known sexual harasser's show and chums it up with him?

Unfuckingbelievable.

[TheDonkey]

113. a complete unabashed fraud. Did he call her opponents pansies and girls while she sat smiling

like she has been doing with other hate-mongers.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

114. It's every bit as bad as the McClurkin thing IMO

When Barack invited a homophobic idiot to perform for him at a small gospel event that was a major outrage and people were demanding his head.

When Hillary gets endorsements from people like Mellon-Scaife and schmoozes with a misogynistic pig like O'Reilly, well she's just being a shrewd politician.

Sickening.