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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:10 AM Original message |
Joe Andrew's (SD from Indiana) switch from Clinton to Obama is a very BIG DEAL |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree with you |
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livingmadness (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. It really is Cali. Its huge. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Fantastic that you're hearing it on news reports |
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dempartisan23 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. obama needs to say this |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. If this switch is getting attention from the MSM, then IMO.... |
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flor de jasmim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. News to wake up to! It also highlights another important point: |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. good point, sandi_4_Edwards. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. The first of many... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It's always bad news for a campaign when a Super Delegate |
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MindMatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. Clinton has forced the issue |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
7. I agree with you analysis. It's should impact other SD |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. “I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it’s now bad for the Party" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It's a really good spot on clear statement |
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futureliveshere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. Bless you cali.. This is a great post to read early in the morning. :) |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:05 AM Original message |
"I can't imagine his switch will have any impact on voters there." |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
24. That's great. I don't know that endorsements really sway voters |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
31. That's excellent, thanks. |
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Renaissance Man (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. Judas |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
13. Obama also picked up Congressman Baron Hill this morning |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I missed that - thank you! |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Baron Hill's endorsement helps in the southern end of Indiana |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. if we lose by under 4 points in Indiana I will be thrilled! |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. What's your sense there? |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
46. I'm in Indianapolis |
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REACTIVATED IN CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. My son is in West Lafayette and his sense is that there are more |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I forgot Purdue |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
76. Thanks Voltaire..I'll be looking forward to that |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
54. +4 Jason Rae 8:30 PDT |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
62. Superdelegate Hill's vote only cost Obama $12,500 - Bargain! |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
14. I totally agree ~~ this is a BIG deal. |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
17. That's very good news! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Me too. I almost always do that little formality |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Hmmm, reminds me of someone else. |
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TragedyandHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
19. The signals are coming through LOUD and CLEAR |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
23. Kicking for Joe! |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
25. Now, that is buyers remorse. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. It also indicates strongly that he thinks Obama will be the dem nominee |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Absolutely. |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
27. K & R! |
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powergirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
29. Anyone switching FROM Obama TO Clinton? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. No. I don't think a single SD for Obama has switched. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
30. a couple more of these and Hillary will have to withdraw |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
32. A defection of the highest order. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. he said that he didn't bother to call either campaign |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. Of course it is. Bring that up at the inauguration of McCain. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. ridiculous. I put no stock in silly predictions about who will or won't |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Republican tactics are not variables. They are tried, true, and get results. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. so 2006 didn't happen. No they don't always work and they're |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yes, and Congress is held in such high esteem. Lower numbers than Chimp. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. lol move those goalposts pronto when you lose an argument |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. True, so now you are expecting mass amnesia, and play nice republicans? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Now you've gone beyond moving goalposts to putting words in my mouth |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. The Phillies will win the World Series, of COURSE |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
37. Good news Cali - the first but certainly not the last. nt. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
41. K & R |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
42. Joe Andrew received $10k from Obama's PAC |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That makes no sense whatsoever. Andrew is not an elected politician |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Correction... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. That completely negates the point you made in this case |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Point is: Obama no different...just another politician |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. That's the meme the RW uses to get away with their crimes. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I've never said anything but. Of course he's a politician |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Tune has changed |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. MY tune has never changed. And that's my point |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Understand, I'm speaking to others |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
93. So you are saying that Democrats shouldn't contribute to fellow Democrat's campaigns? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Supporting Dem candidates is bad? You would rather they donate to Repo candidates? |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Uhhg...you are so right |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. No one has ever suggested getting money out of politics. How would you put gas |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Dude, I do believe you have just outed yourself |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. nope...life long democratic...straight ticket all my life |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
97. He lends support to other politicians |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Obama contributed to candidates when they were running for office |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. link for your lying ass allegations troll |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Back up your statement with a verifying link |
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TheDudeAbides (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. See my post above...and thanks for the welcome! |
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pdxmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
49. Looks like Andrew has put out a pre-emptive strike against the Clinton |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
80. Now THAT's fascinating. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
81. Wow.. |
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beezlebum (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
88. fascinating indeed |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
106. Really doesn't mess around, does he? |
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not_too_L8 (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
50. Thanks Cali...K&R |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
56. K&R |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
59. Welcome ...to all Clinton traitors. |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
60. K&R! |
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RazBerryBeret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
64. it's the top story on drudge... |
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Chrisnreno (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
70. 100% agreed. Kick. |
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Tribetime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
91. I'll second that K/R |
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liberaldem4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
71. K & R! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
74. Howard Wolfson just said, in response to this news, that he's not sure Andrew IS from |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. It is like it is from some hilarious movie about a campaign filled with drug addicts |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Guess he didn't read the letter. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
83. kick |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
84. Will you people get a grip?! |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Still harping on MI and Fl? Vote for dems who know how to follow rules already. |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. Lame excuses or not, Andrew is now a superdelegate for Obama and not |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. That post made absolutely no sense at all |
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elzenmahn (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Take your own advice, indimuse |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #84 |
102. "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!" |
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green917 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #84 |
103. get a grip? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #84 |
105. whoa. I can see this has really upset you |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
86. You are on top of your game Cali, K&R eom. |
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Leo 9 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
89. Defection of longtime superdelegate jolts Clinton |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
92. I read his letter on Huffpo |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
100. funny, I called the DNC about the robocall scandel in NC and told Dean |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
101. Its a sign of the inevitable. |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
104. Thanks for the heads-up and analysis |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
107. Not surprisingly he's already been thrown under the bus |
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