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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:00 PM Original message |
If Obama Can't Attack Hillary's Soft White Underbelly (Outsourcing To India) He's Incompetent |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. I agree. HE NEEDS TO ATTACK HER! SHE'S SOO VULNERABLE! |
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oneofthepeople (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Key word being ATTACK |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. When are you running? You make it sound so easy. How much do you charge for advising campaigns? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You don't think this would work? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Work to do what? He's on track to have won a majority of all the pledged delegates |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I know enough about people and politics to see Hillary's soft white underbelly EXPOSED. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. So why aren't you making the big bucks? Look, Obama has run a brilliant campaign, he's got |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. Time to do a Harry Truman on Hillary. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I agree. No smears, just facts. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. BO can't oppose outsourcing without offending his corporate sponsors. n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Hillary's been lying about it from day 1. It's time Obama called her on it. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. BO's advisers know a president cannot function without support of the corporatist party. n/t |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
69. And HRC has that support in pocket? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
83. I did not say that. n/t |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. Jesus... He Knows That She's Trying To Suck Him Into A Mud Fight... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. This isn't mud. He would attack with truth. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. Maybe you should write a letter to the editor and let them know. If you think it's important enough |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. exposing Hillary's soft-white underbelly isn't a mud-fight. It's simply calling attention |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. He's going to lose unless he drops this 'politics of hope' crapola. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Politics of Hope can involve attacks. Just not smears. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Same difference. He needs to destroy Clinton, completely |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I agree with you. But he doesn't have to abandon the "Politics of Hope." |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Voters don't give a shit about the politics of hope. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
57. Why? He's going to win the nomination anyway. Why go negative? So you feel better? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Exactly, if he's not willing to fight, people sense that. And now HILLARY has taken up that rhetoric |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. And Then Politics Will NEVER Change... And We Will Get What We Deserve... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. The essence of politics will never change. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. Hell yes they do |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
16. He doesn't need to. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. then how do you propose he change the media narrative, dominate a news cycle? |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:21 PM Original message |
I don't knopw that he needs to. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. you mean 41% LOSES. Sorry, that's weak. And by the time the GE comes along-he's permanently |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Not really |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. You are wasting you superior intellect here on DU. I bet there are a ton of POTUS candidates that |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. He's guaranteed to lose Indiana--too many white people |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
58. He doesn't need to. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. He's in REAL danger of losing the nomination. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. No, Hillary still can't win. It's over. n/t |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Sure she can win it. The remaining superdelegates can |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. "The remaining superdelegates can all vote for her." |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. No. If all 200 uncommitted Superdelegates vote for her, she's |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. If you rounded up a million $100 donations for Hill, she wouldn't be broke. Now get going! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. you know, even IF/WHEN he gets nominated, he'll still be a milquetoast elitist |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Ahh, well, everybody has an opinion. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. Its stupid for him to think like that |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Winning isn't resting. But going for the bait is stupid. And he's not stupid |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Letting your guard down when you're ahead |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Yet he's going to get the majority of pledged delegates on May 20th. And |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. It will be a Pyhrric victory |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. It isn't going to the convention. And he will never put her away. He will let her put herself away. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. She is very much alive and kicking |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. You aren't suggest he "Wellstone" her are you? |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Don't be ridiculous |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. His opponents have put this race into over drive |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. A 10 point loss is actually above his needed rate. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Superdelegates still exist. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. She would still need more than 60% of those |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. Well Hillary IS losing and she's broke. And she's looking vindictive and meanspirited. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. All he needs to do is stick to the facts |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. well, that's nice and all. But a page on Obama's website doesn't change the media narrative |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. The media promoted the Iraq war. Do you really think they care? n/t |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. It's a matter of forcing them to cover what YOU want them to cover. And finding the right |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Exactly. Obama should launch a huge assault on Hillary's honesty tommorow morning |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Complete lunacy. You're running around here crying about Wright, |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Why? It changes the media's "narrative" and takes their attention off Wright |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. And he has a lot more brains than you do, too. Which is why he's where he's at, and you are where |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Forcing them? Do you know how the media works? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. either Obama does something to change the media narrative or he's toast. If not |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. That's nonsense! n/t |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. The media narrative has yet to change votes. |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. Her achilles heel is her DISHONESTY and her inappropriate laughing and babbling. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. And that's where he should attack her. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. He won't do it. He's too goody-two shoes to scrap. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The GOP will do it to her in the fall and she will lose because of it. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. We'll see. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
54. You might be right but I think it's more like this... |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. That logic is ass-backwards. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. That's not how it works with people, sorry. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That's your opinion. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #63 |
86. It's not a matter of opinion. You push people, they push back. Even children know this. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. If Obama doesn't show he can FIGHT, he'll lose the GE if not the nomination. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #60 |
87. I think it's just a matter of picking the right battles. Nuking Clinton right now would be... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
75. IF we could stop trying to dictate to the winner |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Obama is no longer winning. He is losing his way to the nomination and getting trashed |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
80. Because that D-Punjab memo worked out so well... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. again, those were Hillary's OWN WORDS. If Obama's camp is too stupid too use this |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
84. I'd like to see a few gut shots myself, but I don't think he's that kind of politician. eom |
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