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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:18 PM
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my 4th GDP post: Question for Hillary supporters, what is your goal when posting on GDP?
What are you attempting or what do you think you achieve when you post threads?

Honest answers please and no flames from Obama supporters.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:20 PM
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1. Umm, supporting our candidate? Are you asking the same of your brothers and sisters?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:24 PM
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4. My question is what are the posts achieving, not what the posters atre doing
What is the goal of the posts. What effect do you believe they have on the nomination.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:56 PM
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16. Expose embarrassing lemming like Mass Hysteria, & deflate those howling 'lets get on a bus w torches
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:19 PM
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23. for starters :)
Though I am enjoying watching them jump off the cliff.

I guess I must be a racist Republican afterall :banghead:
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:42 PM
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34. ...
:applause:
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ChinaDoll Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:22 PM
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28. Absolutely none....
...only the SD's can undo the damage
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:30 PM
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29. you asked both
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:21 PM
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2. Killing Time
~
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:23 PM
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3. To engage intelligent and rational Obama supporters in calm, lucid discussion
psych!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:26 PM
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5. I usually like to refute a misstatement that an
Obama supporter has made. Or sometimes I just like to laugh at their antics and comment on them.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:28 PM
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6. But, you are damaging Obama by doing so...
That is what I am getting from the Op.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:32 PM
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7. "That" is what you're getting from the OP?
Shows where your head is at.

:eyes:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:34 PM
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8. Well, unlike others here, my head is not up your...
ass.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:43 PM
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9. Or, up BO's ass, more likely. nt
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:46 PM
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12. Exactly. But, us clinton folk ain't that welcome here.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:58 PM
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17. Maybe such ungracious behavior will be rewarded in kind when Hillary wins.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:02 PM
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19. Not around here, but worldwide? FUCK YES!!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:07 PM
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20. !!!!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:46 PM
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11. Paranoid much?
The OP asked an honest question - and has received some honest answers. The same question could be asked of Obama supporters.

But you immediately "get from the OP" a statement that pro-Hillary posts are simply posted for the purpose of "damaging Obama" - something that was in no way implied by the OP.

Are paranoia-induced delusions running rampant through the Hill camp now?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:55 PM
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15. The same was not asked about Obama supporters, because the Op is one like you.
Since I joined the forum, you have been a firm ABC, and I have been a firm ABO. What are you going to do once she wins the nomination? Move to Canada? You already live there.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:01 PM
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18. She won't win the nomination.
I have also never been an ABC (I'm assuming that means Anyone But Clinton). If she did win the nomination, she'd have my vote without question.

You might want to stroll through my journal. You'll find many posts praising Hillary - the most recent was just a few months ago.

I only turned firmly against her after she started acting like a Republican. And, quite frankly, the Bosnia whopper was the final straw - for myself, and for many voters.

Hillary has lost the nomination. And she's lost it of her own volition.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:11 PM
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22. Well, thank goodness we only have to go back a few months to find a hillary praising post. nt
But I shouldn't talk, he has never ever been my choice for president and I have never made a pro-obama post, but I have called out racist posts before, which is more than I can say for some people who refuse to see blatant sexism.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:30 PM
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39. I have no problem seeing 'blatant sexism' ...
... it's the non-existent sexism I find hard to see.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:25 PM
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24. Neither will he. Or do you not understand that? Where is the 2024?
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:28 PM
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38. LOL! 'Move to Canada?' ! Good one, gold! nt
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:40 PM
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40. Me, too. Plus, it's an American tradition to speak out for your

candidate.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:46 PM
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10. I take issue with the tone of your post, the unspoken premise - suggesting our posts
- aren't worthwhile here? Sounds like we shouldn't, 'cause BO's got the nomination sewn up.

THAT is what your question sounds like - has a presumptive tone to it. Goldcanyonaz's first reply sums it all up. End of story.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:50 PM
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14. There is no tone, if the goal is to get more voters to vote HRC in the remaining primaries
I was wondering how likely the readers of GDP are residents of states with upcoming primaries?

My other observation is simply that if the goal is to support Hillary and to see she secures the nomination, how does posting threads in GDP factor in?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:32 PM
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30. I do not like your tone either --nor do I like hillary supporters being
constantly called out!

bye
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:44 AM
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45. So a question about goals from a handful of HRC supporters is calling out?
How so?

Also I have not gotten any actual answers that indicated what the goals are and what is being achieved.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:36 PM
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32. Aren't those equally valid questions for yourself and Obama supporters?
Or do you think we're "different?"
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:05 PM
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37. Exactly. Well said.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:47 PM
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13. It's good therapy for them while they wait for her inevitable resignation.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:10 PM
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21. LOL. Goal, I don't need no stinkin' goal!
:headbang:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:32 PM
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25. saving the party
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 02:47 PM by Two Americas
I am not a Clinton supporter, but I am critical of the Obama phenomenon and get accused of being a Clinton supporter and treated as though I were.

The Obama candidacy represents the ultimate expression of a trend in the party that has been growing for the last 35 years. It is apolitical, a counterpoint to the right wing cultural war campaigns, a cultural movement that has come to dominate modern liberalism. For every adherent gained, ten people in the general public become alienated and resentful. This is built into modern liberalism, since it is predicated upon the notion that some are superior - smarter, more spiritually enlightened, better educated, more aware and perceptive. By definition, that is a self-limiting and self-defeating definition for who does and who does not identify with the movement, and is no basis for building a mass movement, which is an absolute requirement for gaining political power.

I think that in the long run, the ultimate success of the party and the salvation of the country requires that the New Age modern liberal faction that now controls the left and the party be overthrown, so I have mixed feelings about the Obama campaign. It will fail, because it is a distillation of all of the things that have caused the party to fail over the last three decades, but that may be a good thing and may be inevitable in any case.

The liberal activist community is putting all of its cards on the table and going for broke - all or nothing, the ultimate showdown with the right wing over cultural war issues. Unfortunately, the party and millions of Democrats are also along for the ride. This cannot win, and I don't think it would be a good thing if it did win.

The Clinton campaign represents accommodation of all of the factions in the Democratic party coalition, as well as the usual compromising with the ruling class that is pervasive in the party. That "sucks" of course, and I have argued against that approach strongly for over twenty years. However, in the short run the Clinton campaign - as weak and absurd as it is - is the last hope of holding together the party coalition, and also could well be a better starting point for the overhaul and re-organization of the party that is so desperately needed.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:13 PM
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26. To annoy you of course
It is all about you Rosebud.
Of course I can't possibly think Hillary is by far the better candidate.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:33 PM
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31. The question is what is being achieved by posting threads in GDP
You don't annoy me. There is an incredible ammount of time being spent & post counts coming from a handful of Hillary supporters.

What is the goal and what is being achieved?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:05 PM
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43. Diversity is good
dissent is good.

Hope springs eternal that dems can come to their senses and choose Hillary so we can actually WIN in November.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:41 AM
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44. And you hope to achieve that goal by posting threads in GDP?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:09 AM
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52. As I mentioned before
the main purpose is to annoy you. Of course.
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ChinaDoll Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:22 PM
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27. Well this is my first post....
...but your question seems to suggest that the only people hwo can kae a valid point are those who either support Obama or think Obama is the best choice. It would appear that you really dont want Hillary supporters to speak here.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:42 PM
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33. No, goals and achievements. For instance. Are the posts geared towards swaying voters
in upcoming primary states.

Are the goals to convince Obama supporters in states that have already voted that Obama can not win.

If so, what does that achieve and is it possible these posts could suppress turnout in the GE should he become the nominee.
Is the goal to convince Obama supporters should the SDs award the nomination to HRC that they should vote for HRC in the GE.

Goals and how they are being achieved. What goals are the HRC supporters who start threads in GDP trying to accomplish.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:29 PM
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35. Sounding the alarm at the grassroots. The landslide is coming! The landslide is coming!
Will we prepare in time to prevent it or will we be wringing or hands on November 4? The sad thing is Obamites already have excuses ready to go if Obama loses the general election: 1) Clinton 2) racism 3) Clinton. It won't be his fault. It won't be because we ignored the warning signs. :eyes:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:45 AM
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46. How is your goal of preventing a landslide IYHO being achieved in GDP?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:02 PM
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36. I'm looking for recipes.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:44 PM
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41. She's on my primary ballot in May, so it seems logical

to support her in this format as well as others.

And, sometimes I just have to snipe at some of the nonsense.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:46 AM
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47. Do you t\feel like you are reaching potential remaining primary voters in GDP?
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:57 AM
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50. Dubious!

But you never know who is around, but quiet.
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:51 PM
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42. I just do it to piss people off.
All I have to do is post Obama sucks and I will have 100 people trying to argue with me. Funny thing is I usually don't read all of the responses. I really don't care why people think he doesn't suck. It isn't going to change who I vote for. Oh wait I voted last week for HILLARY!!!! Have a nice night and remember a vote for Obama is a vote for evil lol.:hi:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:48 AM
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48. So your gola is to post imflammatory rhetoric in a public forum that anyone can read anytime?
I can find posts on DU I made in 2004 when I google certain phrases.
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:29 AM
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53. Yeah not really
I told you it is to piss people off. My day is not complete until I upset atleast two people. I am just an asshole like that.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:55 AM
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49. I try to keep a positive and productive tone as a rule.
And provide some balance.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:04 AM
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51. We post in support of our candidate!!!!!
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 09:05 AM by cricket08
We will continue to do that...do you have a problem with that??
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:42 PM
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54. The question is about goals, how does posting in GDP support the candidate?
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