Clinton's 10 million dollar haul? Not so fast...

[yourguide]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9889.html

*snip*

So unbelievable, it seems, that even within the campaign there was uncertainty as to how much had been raised as yet another figure surfaced around 6 p.m., when Peter Daou, Clinton’s Internet director, told The New York Times that the campaign had raised $8 million.

Finally, about 11 p.m., the campaign posted on its website its final tally for the one-day windfall: $10 million from 100,000 donors, of whom it said 80,000 were first-time givers.

It made no difference that the details didn’t always add up — wide variations in the numbers of new donors; a conflicting timeline of when the money was actually raised. It was the eye-popping $10 million figure — the most ever claimed in a 24-hour period — that dominated the news cycle.

*snip*

And he promised the numbers will be borne out when the campaign files its next financial report with the Federal Election Commission on May 20.

“Everybody will see, as we’ve seen for the past 14 months … the accuracy of the numbers,” he said, adding “FEC reports are as definitive as you can get in terms of proving fundraising.”

Except the reports cannot and will not prove the campaign’s claim of raising $10 million in one day.

That’s because the FEC requires campaigns only to list the donors and dates of contributions that surpass $200 for the entire election cycle. So small donations from new donors — the kind that formed the bulk of Clinton’s haul — aren’t detailed on the reports. Instead, contributions of $200 or less are listed in lump sums as “unitemized contributions.”

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[murray hill farm]

1. That picture is scary!

Was it photo shopped? I hope so..ha!

[SoCalDem]

3. Nope..but this one is..

:evilgrin:

[WillieDee]

8. "a small blonde-haired man with breasts"

Someone on this site described her as such last week, and now I just can't get the image out of my head. LOL

[ErinBerin84]

16. wasn't that Maureen Dowd? Or like,

Peggy Noonan or something? Eh, sounds like something they would say.

[hisownpetard]

15. It must be. She certainly doesn't look like that on TV.

[yourguide]

24. It's not.

AP photo. It happens, even the most attractive folks get poor photos taken.

I happen to find that photo representative of how ugly her campaign has been, it stays until she cleans up her act.

[BearSquirrel2]

31. Time for the Botox ...

It's pretty clear she got caught on the tail end of her Botox cycle without makeup.

[psychopomp]

55. She is wearing makeup in the photo

Quite a bit, actually.

[BearSquirrel2]

59. Apparantly, not enough ...

Like I said, I think it was time for the botox treatment.

[Upton]

35. That's really the way she looks?

[hisownpetard]

52. If that's really the way she looks, then the make-up artist who 'does' her before

she appears on TV should also be billed as a magician.

Can you send him/her to my house when Hillary's done? (At least I pay my bills).

[BigDaddy44]

37. She's 60 years old

Thats what a 60 year old is SUPPOSED to look like. And she's never been one of "the most attrative folks" in the first place. She's got a traveling team of "maintenance" workers working like dogs to make her look 20 years younger. But there's only so much one can do....

[yourguide]

40. Personally

I think this is just a bad photo of her. I think she's physically more attractive than that.

However, she's still run an incredibly ugly campaign and I feel for me, having this photo up is representative of her campaign and her campaign tactics.

When she cleans up her act I plan to remove the photo from my sig. Until then...

[GoesTo11]

58. It's fine to look her age. Thatcher did. Golda Meir did .

In photos now, she doesn't look 20 years younger, her face looks like she's about 18-26 years old - full, straight blond hair, not a wrinkle, color, bright blue eyes, no glasses. Like Dick Clark, America's oldest teen.

[TheDoorbellRang]

41. They caught her on a Dorian Grey day, obviously

:scared:

[chill_wind]

48. That was my reaction in another thread-- "Yiiikes!"

I. too, was sure it had to be photo-shopped. Make-up for television really IS a miraculous art!

[TexasObserver]

2. They're probably lying. They have a history of spreading phony info.

This is typical of the Clinton campaign. They rush to get out a story, and the point of the story is "hey, we're rolling in money, we have a bunch of NEW contributors, and you should send us money, too!!"

I call bogus on this fairy tale. They WISH they had a new $10 mil and a new group of 100,000 contributors. They're stalling out, and like the Bushes, they LIE when there are no facts to support them.

[SoCalDem]

5. and... they announced the 10million within MINUTES of her balloon fiesta

there's no way they could have racked that up that fast..unless Bill wrote a $10M check

[TexasObserver]

9. they have adopted the Bush playbook, to the letter

She simply makes up any "fact" she thinks will help her. The sniper story is her norm, not her exception.

[MindMatter]

51. Lies on page one, retractions on page 47.

Works every time. The only thing that prevents that is integrity, and neither the Bushes nor the Clintons have any of that. That is the main reason why America simply doesn't want to continue this Clinton/Bush thingie.

[ORDem]

44. They probably held back some donations from weeks before. nt

[juajen]

53. I didn't see any balloons, just confetti, and this figure was reported the next

day after the noon hour. Lie much? BTW, I tried for around three hours to donate and couldn't get through. They were busy.

[SoCalDem]

57. I saw that Honyock McAwful (with confetti) in the background

crowing about 10$M in donations.. I assumed it was the same night..since it was on live.. so did they "pre-stage" another confetti drop for their commercial.?

Frankly, I don't care how much she raises , or doesn't...it's not gonna matter anyway, since she always spends more than she takes in anyway ...

One can almost smell the flop-sweat from here..

[yourguide]

10. I'm convinced they are lying

80,000 new donors? Most new donors are conservative with their first donation...$5, $25, maybe $50...

I doubt she had 100,000 donors...I doubt they averaged $100 each.

I still think it's lies.

[AquarianRealm62]

61. Agreed.

[Andy823]

14. I agree.

There is so much BS coming out of the Clinton camp, you can't believe anything they say. They need money, and they need it badly. They are in debt, they have no money to go into the next states, so they come up with this PR tactic to try and get people to send in money. Most people are not going to donate to a losing cause, so if they can make people think they have just broken a record by collection 10 million in 24 hours, they figure they can get enough money to make it into Indiana.

What I want to know is if they made that 10 million they say they did, how many of their debts they have owed for months now have been paid off? Not to Penn, but to the people in small towns they have been stiffing now for months! When do those people get their money?

[ErinBerin84]

20. Man, I still can't believe that Penn is on board.

( I mean, I can believe it of course, but Jesus Christ). I remember watching CNN Headline News the day after Penn had been "demoted", and the voiceover actually said "Penn is now an unpaid advisor". UNPAID ADVISOR? Come on, CNN. Ease up on the crack.

[lisa58]

25. The first time I saw Mark Penn was on cspan...

...interviewed about his book.

I had no idea he was working for Clinton and had for a long time. That he was brought in by Dick Morris (eeeewwww) and that the Clinton's love him and are loyal to him.

Now he and Bill are going to "strategize" for the campaign.

Go home, please - I don't want to know any more.

[TheDoorbellRang]

42. He is now an unpaid advisor because they'll pay him next month

when they get some cash -- or so they tell him. :spray:

[Cha]

19. Of course, hilary and her sand-box campaign

are lying. I hope their creditors took note of the huge influx of "cash" so they can collect their outstanding debts from hilary's new found revenue.

[0007]

4. It was unbelievable when the propaganda first came out.

[cliffordu]

6. I read on Kos, I think, that the $$ was money held back from

"previous elections...."

But I could be wrong...

Just another publicity stunt.

[yourguide]

12. Got a link on that?

So she moved money over from the her senate campaign coffers?

[cliffordu]

29. I'm looking......

But I wouldn't make something like this up.

There's enough to hit her with that is the truth....

[cliffordu]

30. GOT IT!!! Right here:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/25/105415/334/173/503260

[yourguide]

32. Thanks!

Not surprised by any of this, however really glad to see the breakdown of the spending totals. As it turns out based on the totals he did NOT outspend her 2 to 1 or 3 to 1.

Lies lies, more Clinton lies.

[cliffordu]

36. No sweat - You should use this in your OP -

I was going to post it earlier today and got hung up in real life and assumed someone already covered it.

It Aint a small story....

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. I've maintained all along that they are indeed lying.....

anyone who can claim, on more than one occasion, to have come under sniper fire with her only child in tow, and subseqently laugh it off as "misremembering" is a pathological liar. And so is her campaign staff. I don't believe anything that comes out of the Clinton camp.

[BlueIdaho]

11. If she keeps charging $10

to come see her speak we'll know she's up shit creek.

[anigbrowl]

23. 'keeps'? tell me more, I missed that .nt

[BlueIdaho]

50. There were some reports she was charging for the pleasure of her company in PA.

Don't know if its true but wouldn't surprise me.

[anonymous171]

13. Shit. Obama needs to learn how to do that.

Manipulate the media narrative, I mean. Not lie.

[bhikkhu]

17. Good article...one reason I'd predict an end before then

I don't think the next FEC report will stand very well. The current debt may be settled by the windfall prior to embarrassing collections filings, but then what about tackling the critical next set of contests, barely solvent? She must decisively defeat Obama to prove her point of momentum and superior electability to the SD's, who will then collectively push her over the top...

But as none of that is feasible or realistic, particularly with her funds situation, I would guess she will milk her last brief bit of good press to fuel fund-raising sufficient to close things out. This would be to end things on a good financial note. Or she would have to go all out and breaks the bank in the next couple of weeks to prove momentum in the remaining states - a very improbable gamble. As a career politician, I think she is more on the realistic side.

[yourguide]

21. Well, she didnt include her 5 mil loan listed as debt

in the latest round of FEC filings, they pad the numbers and the FEC may start taking a closer look at her finances which wont be good for her.

Hmmmmm, with that lie she may have just contributed to having the FEC microscoping her finances.

[BearSquirrel2]

60. Perhaps they double billed another set of credit cards ...

Perhaps they just used the credit cards on file and took another serving like so many before.

[quantass]

18. Sexiest, most flattering picture of her Yet...Yummy Mama!

:puke:

[my3boyz]

46. Imagine Bill having to sleep with her!

Ugly inside and outside! Oh....that is right! He doesn't sleep with her!

[anigbrowl]

22. It's a sad comment on the campaign that we are even having this conversation

When I was looking at Hillary's website the other evening with the $10m figure up on the screen, my GF walked past, took one look and said 'bullshit.'

[jenmito]

26. Seems like they like using the number "10" a lot. And I remember them first saying they RAISED $10

million in 24 hours, then it turned into they're "on track" to raising $10 million in 24 hours after 24 hours already passed. Then a reporter said they have no way of verifying if they DID raise that much or not...

[Ichingcarpenter]

27. Bill gave a $10 million dollar loan out of his $110 million fortune

Just wait, it won't be 10, but I be you $10 bucks, it will show shady bookkeeping.

[yourguide]

28. I bet the totals for that day show 10 mil.

The thing is, it cant be proven if given in amounts under $200.

[Gore1FL]

33. I guess they rounded it up

so they could get 8 figures...

[yourguide]

34. Yeah, from 6 million to 10...the same way they rounded up that 9%...

in PA to 10%.

[tabasco]

38. Numbers ain't easy when you have PTSD from snipers shootin' at ya'.

Give Rambo Hill a little slack.

[FrenchieCat]

39. Clinton campaign has finally morphed into a Bush campaign.....

and I'm smelling the Florida desperation as we speak. Bogard and say anything to look like you have momentum. Guess the SDs are supposed to play the Supreme Court, and the Chads are being played by Black people.

[Frank Booth]

43. Just like the 10 point win in Pennsylvania, claiming she was outspent by 3:1,

claiming that white working class voters are the only ones that matter, claiming that she still has a shot of winning the nomination, claiming that she would be a better candidate in the general election.

What a crock of shit.

[chill_wind]

49. But the lies became fact when obediently recited again and again by the MSM.

And voters in NC and Indiana won't hear any corrections before THEY go to the polls, either.

[juajen]

54. That's so also from your camp, you know "repeated lies become truth"

if repeated constantly, as ya'll do, all the time.

[my3boyz]

45. Once a liar..always a liar. nt

[Snarkoleptic]

47. It would truly take a heroic act for her to suck any more than she currently does.

[davidpdx]

56. I think it's highly likely that Clinton won't even release

her fund raising numbers at the end of the month if they are as dismal as one would guess. That pretty much means they can delay releasing them until the deadline on May 20th, which happens to be on the same day as Oregon and Kentucky (assuming she stays in the race and the numbers matter). That's why I think this is more likely to go on until then rather then ending on May 6th.