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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:54 PM Original message |
Obama's absymal performance among White Democrats. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. I will never understand the logic of equating the primaries to the general election... |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. It's not logic: it's spin |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
196. seconded. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
221. in a caucus |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #221 |
271. Caucus vs. primary is beside the point |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Not logic. It's CalvinBall. n/t |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. It's like the Yankees bragging about losing 10-2 in a baseball game instead of 10-0 |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Please answer the question. Why will the majority of Hillary's base vote for McCain over Obama? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Is her support coming from Reagan democrats and values voters? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. I never said the majority. I said enough to swing the election. n/t |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
96. Bingo!@ nt |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
97. Eureka! I think he's got it. nt |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
98. Holy cow! that makes sense. |
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Abacus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
242. . |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
268. EXACTLY! |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. No - it's like a football team pretending they got a first down when they're a yard short . . . |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
106. Whoever your candidate |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
153. You forgot such states as Vermont |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #153 |
160. Maine and Vermont are reliably Democratic states. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #160 |
183. she won't get the chance. she's done. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. Whatever you say. You continue to not address my points and instead engage in cognitive dissonance. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #183 |
274. Pointing out the obvious |
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cjsmom44 (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:54 AM Response to Reply #160 |
262. RE: BEG TO DIFFER |
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gbrenna (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
161. New Map |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #161 |
171. Where is Obama going to win 270 electorate votes without Florida and Ohio? |
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gbrenna (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #171 |
217. New Map |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #161 |
175. Your post is fine, and welcome to DU. |
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gbrenna (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #175 |
199. Thanks! |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
266. Especially when you translate the results to the electoral college |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. You want us to keep it civil after that subject line? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. It's the truth. Obama has done terribly among white Democrats. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Absolutely not true. Hillary is more successful with whites of certain... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
90. Huh? |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:29 PM Original message |
Your inaccurate insult of young voters is disgusting... |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #90 |
121. Duplicate deleted. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
150. The numbers speak for themselves. When you lost white Dems 70-28 that cuts across age |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
223. old? You mean over thirty-five? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
155. no it's not "the truth". it's your opinion |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #155 |
174. No, it's a fact. |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
197. And you conveniently ignore almost all the states he's won |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #197 |
225. All of them caucuses states. What's your point? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'll be back. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. Maybe we should make the primaries whites only the way we used to |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Because we are picking a Democratic nominee. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. Whtie Democratic vote is now more important because Hillary wants it that way. n/t |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
151. No, the argument is GE electability since GE demographics are different than primary demographics |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. GREAT point! |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
82. Very true, and I am sick of it. And I'm white, if that matters. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
154. That is an example of what I am talking about. Here is the MS result with GE demographics |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:23 PM Original message |
Not to mention the fact that it will be miracle if Obama wins 60% of the Latino vote. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Since when did you support Hillary? |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Exactly what I was thinking... |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. The night of the PA primary |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. I've had questions about Obama's electability for a month now. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
109. "blown out"? he took 11 pts away from HRC's previous 20-pt lead |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. So in your opinion Democrats are racists? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. When did I ever say that? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. yea them dammed nigras is unlektabelll *chew spit* |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Oh no! White people won't vote for a black guy! |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
156. Chris Dodd is black? He got 0% of the white vote. Obama just has limited appeal beyond his ethnicity |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. another lying piece of racist shit from the king of that genre |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #159 |
165. Where's the appeal? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #165 |
200. Saying Obama loses whites due to racism is like saying Richardson lost due to racism |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #165 |
227. What? His position on the issues is almost the same as Hillary's |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. Fatal flaw in logic |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. You can't argue that with HillFans. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Agreed, it's a flawed interpretation of the data |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
158. Of course he would win most but the $270 question is how many? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. If you are registered as a Democrat, you are a Democrat. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
117. Furthermore, I think a lot of them will vote McCain in November if Hillary gets the nom. nt |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
226. and those are the people who get to vote in november |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm sure they'll all vote McCain right? |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. You're right. those people will vote for more war, less health care & GOP econ policies :rolleyes: |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
71. In 2000 and in 2004 why not 2008? |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's less abysmal than Clinton's performance among African American Democrats |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. HuffPo: Irreparable Breach Between Clinton And Blacks Is Foreseeable |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
136. Don't forget young people. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #136 |
273. That recent Politico post summed the issue up, rather well. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm hoping that all the disgusted repukes will vote Obama. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. Try The Mirror Of This Argument, Sir |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. bravo - well done |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. Blacks have voted for Democrats for 30 years. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. And Whites Who Identify As Democrats Tend, Too, To Vote For Democrats, Sir |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:30 PM Original message |
Tell that to John Kerry. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
76. So You Are Saying, Sir, that White Democrats Will Not Vote For A White Candidate Either? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. No, what I am saying is that there is a certain type of candidate will appeal to these voters. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. This Can Be Played From A Number Of Angles, Sir |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. Hillary does about equal among White Democratic males as Obama. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. But We Have Got Beyond That Already, Sir, In This Little Exercise |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. What is happening now is apples and oranges to the 2004 primary. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Primary Elections And General Elections Are Apples And Oranges, Sir |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. Amen |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #99 |
114. I'm sorry, but Obama does extremely well against Clinton among men.... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
163. There will be but she more than offsets that by getting more female support than Obama |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #163 |
169. More female support, more Latino support, more core Democratic support. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #169 |
205. The only shot Obama has is indies and they will peel away as he gets vetted, attacked as "too libera |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #205 |
210. McCain likely win more indies as Obama gets vetted. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #210 |
218. That is the common sense strategy |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #218 |
229. Solid Democrats - i.e. people that vote on Democratic issues and |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #205 |
275. Good chance of that |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #76 |
162. Obama is a much weaker candidate than Clinton for GE |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #162 |
180. The undemocratic caucus system has given Obama his delegate margins. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. This may be the wrong year to take black voters for granted, assuming that they have nowhere else to |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
167. Which is an interesting proposition: is not nominating Obama an affront to the other 40 million AA's |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
79. They may sit this one out ... Hillary has turned into the WHITE candidate |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #79 |
168. Clinton wins outside of her ethnic group. She wins Latinos 2:1 and Asians by almost as much |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #168 |
176. Yet loses the historically most loyal Dem constituency by HUGE margins? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #176 |
190. She will not lose the most loyal Dem constituency by a huge margin in the GE. |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. You (like your candidate) are taking a LOT of people for granted ... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #176 |
201. So did Dukakis in the 88' primaries (10-90). What happened when Dukakis had a white GE opponent? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:24 PM Original message |
They are loyal and this is their reward? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
208. Latinos are too. So Richardson should be named VP or else it is giving the finger to 15% of the USA? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
61. I love you . . . |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. so none of the white folks who voted for Hillary will vote for Obama. |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
230. That's really what this thread amounts to - the claim that most white Democrats are racist |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
19. Here you go |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Those are your own words, not mine. I never said such a thing. n/t |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. You are ignoring the concept of Clinton loyalty |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. For now. But as a trend, the more voters get to know Hillary, the more they move... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. If Obama were white, he wouldn't be getting 90% of the black vote. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. You know this how? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Because Hillary and the Clintons used to have tons of black support. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
101. That's a pretty bizarre leap of logic |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. I think you made my point. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #104 |
118. If you think I made your point, you're even more confused |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
73. The data doesn't support your conclusions |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
172. That isn't the assumption |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. Perhaps Obama should don a sheet and wave the 'Fedrut flag to appeal to them. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. You're in the wrong party if you use racism |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Who is using racism? |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. You. |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
231. What is your argument other than "because Obama is black, some white |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
32. my guess - you're from South Jersey, maybe Salem or Cumberland Co |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
75. I'm in Ocean County and I'm extremely liberal. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Ocean County - I wasn't that far off |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. I am from a conservative county. I'm liberal. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:01 PM Original message |
When's the last time Ocean County elected a Democrat? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
110. Gore lost Ocean County by one point. Clinton won it by 6 in 1996. n/t |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. That's exactly what I just said |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #112 |
178. Let's use some common sense. Obama does better than Clinton in Iowa |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
173. The facts show Obama may lose NJ |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
34. Stopped reading here: |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
37. Hillary is abysmal with blacks and young people and weaker with increasing education |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Young people and affluents do not make a Democratic coalition. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. College educated, those under 30 and blacks may decide to stay home... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
166. oh, now YOU have the gall to speak for what AA voters will |
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Ashy Larry (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. You couldn't be more wrong. |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. Fear of racists=capitulation. Fvck that. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
179. Richardson lost. Is that because of racism or because of his limited appeal? |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
49. This white democrat is gonna pull the lever for Obama. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. You are one out of millions. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Obama is having trouble pulling women away from Hillary |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Amazing how you can outspend...when you have the money. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
51. Stats on Independents and Conservatives who "will vote for McCain in the General" please? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. McCain courts independents just as well as Obama. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
56. Since no Democrat can win without the support of black voters, why don't you worry about HRC's even |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. How many latte liberals are there in Iowa? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. One state out of 43? Congratulations on cherrypicking. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Who really is cherry picking here? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Ohio and Pennsylvania are not conservative states. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. OH and PA are conservative states with corrupt elections systems |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Bill won both states in 1992 and 1996. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #94 |
224. Rasmussen has him up over McCain in PA. n/t |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #91 |
187. PA has voted Dem 4 times in a row, has a Dem governor, and one Dem senator |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:36 AM Response to Reply #91 |
259. Did you even BOTHER to see what Ohio did in 2006? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #81 |
170. lol YOU cherry pick. ND, ME, CO, KS, VT, MN, WA |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #170 |
203. Minnesota, Maine Colorado and Washington were caucuses. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
184. How many caucuses are there in the general election? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #184 |
207. Obamites think that 2% turnout in a caucus means that Obama will carry the state. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
182. The opposite is the case. Obama has tanked with whites since he began being vetted |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
64. Well he did great among Black voters. What's your point? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Whites consist of 77% of the electorate, blacks consist of 11% of the electorate. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. How about under 30, college educated or black? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Obama's coalition consists of about 30% of the electorate. n/t |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. No Democratic has won a majority of whites since 1964. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. His strategic view is also based on Hillary getting working class whites that aren't Democrats |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. How? Latinos will likely split 50-50 with McCain as Obama as the nominee. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
111. McCain will be easy to politically decimate. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #84 |
189. They can't defend the simple fact his coalition is too small to win the GE |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #189 |
195. No, he didn't. He's just a flawed candidate. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #195 |
209. Look at this |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #209 |
215. I need to donate soon. I should create the same type of poll about Obama if he loses in the GE. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #215 |
220. He won't lose the GE. He loses the white vote in Dem primaries due to racism |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
188. Of course but you also need at least 43%. Kerry won 41% and he lost the GE by 3 |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
233. blacks are 11%, but what percentage of the white vote will decide |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
241. And that 11% is enough to make or break a Democrat - that's what is scaring some of you to death |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
87. To those that are surprised: |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
93. Well duh. White folks won't in general vote for a black guy unless there's no other choice... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
95. The Florida numbers are staggering, guess we write that one off. nt |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. With Obama, we write off both Ohio and Florida. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Who needs 'em |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. They're too conservative!! |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. thats right, we got a good shot at those |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
113. All I'll say is this... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #113 |
243. THANK you! |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
115. Hey jackson, how come you never addressed the bigger problem Hillary has with non-white voters? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Hillary does not have a problem with Latino voters. |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Bill swiftboated himself by trying to demean Obama's win there... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. I hope Hillary picks up the "I'm a victim of racial swiftboating" meme. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #120 |
244. So you think black people are so stupid that Obama can fool them into turning on the Clintons? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
119. Blacks will vote for McCain if Clinton is the nom? |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. No, they'll stay home. |
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wrando (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. you don't know |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. WTF? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
125. I agree completely that we should throw Obama under the bus |
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wrando (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #125 |
131. is that what he said? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. The Obamites haven't been able to dismiss any of my points. |
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wrando (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. it's not logical |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:25 PM Original message |
Well......This poster uses this kind of thing as a reason to take |
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wrando (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
146. motives |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. THESE STATS DO NOT REFLECT WHAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER MCCAIN |
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wrando (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #148 |
204. partially true |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
126. To take you seriously I would have to think you weren't for trying |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
130. It was all those Black voters in Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho.... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. Wyoming and Idaho were low turnout caucuses. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #130 |
191. Read the OP. Jesse Jackson won Alaska and Vermont. How'd he do nationally with whites? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
135. Are you a lawyer? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. No, I am not. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Well, so do I |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
137. I sincerely hope that the rest of New Jersey is not as bigoted as you appear to be! |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #137 |
141. He lives in Ocean County - NJ's Wingnut Central |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #137 |
255. We're not. |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
139. If anything is abysmal, it's the white racist democrats you mention. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. The only thing that is abysmal is your labeling of any white Democrats who vote for Hillary |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. A good portion of them have mnade it clear they will not vote for him |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #143 |
152. If there are racists in the democratic party - then they are not |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #152 |
185. Dream on baby, hell they are even here on DU. Just open your eyes. |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #185 |
206. Yes, there may be some on DU - but again, they are not democrats. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. you are the one calling them racist by insinuating that they will only vote for the White Person |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #144 |
164. DING DING DING! We have a winner! nt |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #144 |
192. That makes no sense. They wouldn't vote for Dodd or Biden either |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #192 |
198. Nobody accepts that Bullshit except desperate Hillarites |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #198 |
211. What is your answer to why Richardson lost? Racism or limited appeal? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #211 |
235. what is your answer to why Richardson supports Obama? |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #211 |
240. Lack of money and poor speaking ability doomed Richardson. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #240 |
246. And Obama is the perfect candidate who only racists would oppose? |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #246 |
248. Nope, but if they voted for Hillary on the issues they will vote for Obama. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #248 |
249. False. |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #249 |
251. LOL - based on what? Your desire for Hillary to win? What? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #251 |
254. No, the argument--and it is legit--is that Obama will not win enough of these voters |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #254 |
265. You are using primary numbers to arbitrarily come up with your |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #248 |
253. 24% of Democrats voted against Mondale |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #144 |
222. You guys even eat your own when they |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #222 |
236. enjoy this board while you can, soon this 'cult' will be all that's left |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #236 |
276. Listen Jack O--, you and your Obama friends can then stroke |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
145. Race bait thread? eom |
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leaningprog (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
147. whispers and code words are paying off |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
149. I am so white...people think I'm a pillow....ok I might be a little |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #149 |
157. Oh man, this post calls for a group hug |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #157 |
214. Thank you - I love group hugs |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #149 |
181. the OP is doing nothing but misrepresenting and cherry picking |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #181 |
213. Hey Vermont! I agree - this has turned into a horribly racist |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #149 |
238. Add me to the " woman pillow muffin top pushing 40 for Obama" list. |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:39 AM Response to Reply #238 |
260. LOL......hello sister pillow! |
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cjsmom44 (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:00 AM Response to Reply #149 |
263. RE: I'M WITH YA GIRL |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #263 |
267. Welcome cjsmom44/Obama-Mama! |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
177. Is this is latest Hillary flier to Indiana and supers??? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
193. I am sorry |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #193 |
202. hear hear |
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XLIXLI (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
212. GOOD LORD, Secularist! |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
216. Excellent analysis, NJ Secularist! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #216 |
228. No, it isn't. It's hogwash! |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
219. Are you calling the good people of PA and OH racist? |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
232. It's ok, they'll stuff it in the end and vote for Barack in the GE |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
234. Another HillFAN who needs poli-sci 101. So here goes: |
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brindis_desala (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
237. Simple math for math challenged. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #237 |
239. Thank you. ITS THE INDEPENDENTS, STUPID! |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #237 |
245. Here is a poll. His indie appeal is declining as he gets more known |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
247. NJSecularist, I liked you, but obviously you went over the deep end. |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #247 |
250. Second, such a good person went to the dark side. oh well. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
252. You are officially on ignore - |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:26 AM Response to Reply #252 |
256. We have seen this race card argument for Obama a lot since he lost on Tuedsay |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
257. All I know is.... |
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graycem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
258. It says... |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
261. No it's among white women who are the largest chunk of the dems, he has more votes in the repub vote |
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cjsmom44 (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:02 AM Response to Reply #261 |
264. RE: WHITE WOMEN |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
269. who fucking cares.... I am getting very tired of the race game.... |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
270. Double standard |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
272. Elected. Pledged. Delegate. Majority. |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
277. kick |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
278. You are pointing out that a Black man can't win and that is disgraceful |
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