Best case in PA for Clinton: +7 pledged delegates. Big whoop.

[ORDem]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20080424/pl_cq_politics/politics2710878

"Clinton also won a small majority of the 103 district delegates. CQ Politics last week projected a 53-50 Clinton win among district delegates, and it seems clear that she'll win between 52 and 55 delegates and Obama will win between 48 and 51 district delegates."

Best case for her a 55/48 split, worst case 52/51 split (C/O).

:dem:

[MindMatter]

1. If only we were all Republicans, she would be our nominee

Ya gotta hate those Democrats, and their stupid democratic nominating system.

[cali]

2. maybe. maybe not. Obama would have run a different campaign

had their been different rules. too fucking bad for queen hill that she couldn't be bothered to run a smart campaign.

[MindMatter]

18. I'm not sure how much better she could have done.

Yeah, there were some major blunders, but the basic reality is that 90% of the Republicans loathe her. You can't win a general election that way. And she entered this with only abut half the party favoring her, and will end it with the majority very eager to show both Clintons the door.

Not this year. Between Edwards and Obama, millions of Democrats were reminded why we call ourselves Democrats.

[scheming daemons]

3. Nope.... with different rules, both would have run different campaigns....

...

[Independent-Voter]

4. Your superdelegate system is fucking things up for you.

Ya'll look like a damn banana republic with that mechanism in place. I like the way the Dems do the proportional delegates though.

[Liberal Gramma]

11. I actually heard a talking head say this

that if we had a winner-take-all system (implication: like we should have) she would be the nominee.
The counter-arguement is that the campaign stategy would have been different if we did.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

15. Talking head? Bill Clinton said that! Hillary Clinton said it too!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=166849&title=indecision-2008-pennsylvania

[Liberal Gramma]

17. I didn't know that

so the pundit was just picking up Clinton talking points.

[mohc]

5. This only includes district delegates

Clinton will get 5 more state-wide delegates than Obama, so the overall spread will be between 12 and 6 depending on the district results. The PLEO delegates will be 11-9 for Clinton, and the At-large delegates will be 19-16 for Clinton, making it 30-25 for Clinton at the state level. The allocation of these delegates are not particularly close to the rounding points, so they should stay at this level once all the votes are counted.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. No! No! No! She's established HillMentum!!

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. Best case for obama in PA, lost by 9%. Big whoop.

[Cheap_Trick]

8. so you admit it wasn't the fabled "double digit win"

color me shocked

[newmajority]

9. THAT'S A DAMN LIE, YOU B. HUSSEIN OSAMA LOVER !!!!111!!!!!!

AS LONG AS IT'S EVEN 9.1% THAT'S TWO DIGITS!!!!!1111!!!! A HUGH VICTORY FOR HILLARY!!!11111!!

[Cheap_Trick]

12. ARE YOU SERIES?

you MORAN

[nichomachus]

14. Well, it is if you count the numbers after the decimal point n/t

[Austinitis]

10. Those facts just make Clinton's job easier when it comes down to pledged vs. popular

It just shows that there's no real correlation between popular support and pledged-delegates.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

16. No...if it were a winner take all, there would be no correlation.

This shows that because it was a close race, within ten points, she doesn't pick up that many more delegates.

[cliffordu]

13. I STILL want to know how much per delegate she had to spend...