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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:13 PM
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Obama in Ohio versus Obama in PA
Among voters 60 and older:
OH 28%
PA 38%
(+10)

Among white voters:
OH 34%
PA 38%
(+4)

Among white male voters:
OH 39%
PA 44%
(+5)

Among white female voters:
OH 31%
PA 34%
(+3)

Among voters making less than 50K:
OH 42%
PA 46%
(+4)


Obama cut into every single Hillary Demographic in PA, despite:

- The Wright controversy
- The "bitter" controversy
- The Ayers controversy
- Various other minor "gates"
- Hillary having the backing of the most powerful person in the state, Ed Rendell
- PA having a lower percentage of black population than Ohio
- PA having a higher percentage of seniors than Ohio
- A greater percentage of female vote in PA (58%) than in OH (55%)


In addition, he cut his overall margin of defeat from 10.8% (OH) to 9.4% (PA). And in the process, he managed to drive his opponent into bankrupcy.


The "dead cat bounce" for Hillary that was PA...

If you had a laboratory and could create a group of people with the perfect demographic profile for Hillary, you'd create PA.

...and she couldn't even reach 55%.


Obama is "broken"? In the 7 weeks between OH and PA, he improved in every demographic, raised twice as much money, gathered in 5 times as many superdelegates, and moved to double-digit leads in national tracking polls over Hillary.... all the while sustaining a media assault on his character that made swiftboating and Willie Horton look like a walk in the park.


He's going to be fine President.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:15 PM
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1. Problem is that Hillary supporters don't "do" math
of anykind. :(
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:15 PM
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2. Good stuff
k&r
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:15 PM
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3. expect an update on the "dead cat bounce" around 4 PM at PA SOS site
looks like the margin will be 8 points, not 9.

Chuck Todd admitted via email to Obama supporter that the media is talking over
the real math.

Its the fracking media that's killing our democracy, or trying.

oh, and love your "dead cat bounce" analogy, no offense to cat lovers
(I have two cats).
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:17 PM
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4. "He's going to be fine President."
Thank-you for the data and thoughtful perspective. :hi:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:17 PM
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5. Did he drop in any categories? NT
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:19 PM
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7. Okay, okay, okay - he has less debt than her
happy now x(

(actually I don't know the answer to your question - but I do know that the Obama campaign has been run by financial and fund raising geniuses!)

:hi:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:20 PM
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8. Yes...... Catholics (-5), college-educated (-2)..... n/t
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:18 PM
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6. LOL at "dead cat bounce"
:rofl:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:20 PM
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9. I can't imagine the next two weeks could be harder for him than the last 6.
What else can Hillary dig up on him? I know she will try, but I think all she's got left is rehashing Wright. The bitter comment wasn't even about Indiana. She sucks.

He's on his way to the White House.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:07 PM
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22. They're making up shit as we
discuss.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:20 PM
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10. Yes, the real story from PA is that Obama is cutting into his opponents demographic base.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:24 PM
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11. Yes.... but will this story be told by the MSM?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:28 PM
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15. It will emerge, but not forcefully.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:24 PM
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12. KO said it best last night
Clinton may have won, but Obama is on an upward trajectory and she is on a downward trajectory.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:24 PM
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13. Could you source your data?
Thanks in advance.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:33 PM
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16. Here ya go:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:25 PM
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14. Good find
Thanks for this interesting information--it's very telling.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:55 PM
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17. kick
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:57 AM
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18. Kicking my own thread.....
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:59 AM
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19. He is cutting into her base and yet she can't cut into his.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:18 PM
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23. Barack: Im in ur base, swayin ur doods.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:04 PM
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20. Kicked for truthiness
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:05 PM
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21. kick and rec and thanks for doing the math.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:48 PM
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24. great job; thanks for the info. will forward.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:54 PM
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25. K & R Very informative stats
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